On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
Aug 29th 2004, 7:45 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
<< Will I be treated better in France by
wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
button? >>
Find a Clinton button and wear it. They all loved him and couldn't understand
what any of the fuss was ever about.
wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
button? >>
Find a Clinton button and wear it. They all loved him and couldn't understand
what any of the fuss was ever about.
Aug 29th 2004, 9:01 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
>to simply brand you as "American tourist".
Which is, in France as much or as little as anywhere in Europe, not a
bad thing to be.
>(Do Europeans indulge in our
>obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
Not that I have noticed. Most Europeans would, I think, consider it a
bit tacky.
--
PB
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>I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
>to simply brand you as "American tourist".
Which is, in France as much or as little as anywhere in Europe, not a
bad thing to be.
>(Do Europeans indulge in our
>obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
Not that I have noticed. Most Europeans would, I think, consider it a
bit tacky.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
Aug 29th 2004, 9:28 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
Why would you want to wear any political button? Can't you leave it in the
states? Enjoy the country you're in. Let the French show their colors.
geotek
"Suzy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> I am coming next week.
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
> My friends say that while Bush is detested
> in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
> Susan
states? Enjoy the country you're in. Let the French show their colors.
geotek
"Suzy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> I am coming next week.
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
> My friends say that while Bush is detested
> in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
> Susan
Aug 29th 2004, 9:30 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
> to simply brand you as "American tourist". (Do Europeans indulge in our
> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
It was fashionable here in the 1970s, but later than that wearing buttons
for a specific politician or political part would have made you a victim of
ridicule. Slogans for specific goals ("Sauvez les balaignes", "Atomkraft
nein danke") lasted longer on buttons or bumper stickers, but I haven't
seen one after the 1980s.
Regards
--
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news:[email protected]:
> I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
> to simply brand you as "American tourist". (Do Europeans indulge in our
> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
It was fashionable here in the 1970s, but later than that wearing buttons
for a specific politician or political part would have made you a victim of
ridicule. Slogans for specific goals ("Sauvez les balaignes", "Atomkraft
nein danke") lasted longer on buttons or bumper stickers, but I haven't
seen one after the 1980s.
Regards
--
Ein Stück weit den Hut aufhaben heißt gut aufgestellt sein.
http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de
Aug 29th 2004, 10:13 pm
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
On 29/08/04 21:40, in article [email protected],
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
> to simply brand you as "American tourist". (Do Europeans indulge in our
> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
I wore mine today just to test it out after reading Suzy.
The people at our local journaux were curious, asked questions on how I was
going to vote (the mechanics of absentee voting) etc. When my ballot
comes I will show it to them. California ballots have chad and so
they can see how absurd the whole thing is, compared with voting
in France (which I also do since I am also French).
They know I am from the quartier since my name is "Monsieur Gaston",
which is actually my dog's name. I buy my papers there all the time,
and other stuff except cigarettes and lotto stuff. I neither smoke
or gamble although my ³not sinning² largely ends there!
I wear American sweat shirts now and then, one with a "Sanibel Island" on
it, another from Arizona and a nice one with California Sea Otters on it.
Nobody knows who is American by their wear, a lot of French have American
sweat shirts, they wear levis etc.
But an election button is unique since the French don't to that, or bumper
stickers. Window stickers, yes things like "bébé abord" are pasted.
Anyway, I recommend Americans wearing their Kerry-Edward's buttons.
You might get a free drink and almost certainly will be cheer on!
Earl
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I suspect the only effect a button touting either candidate will have is
> to simply brand you as "American tourist". (Do Europeans indulge in our
> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
I wore mine today just to test it out after reading Suzy.
The people at our local journaux were curious, asked questions on how I was
going to vote (the mechanics of absentee voting) etc. When my ballot
comes I will show it to them. California ballots have chad and so
they can see how absurd the whole thing is, compared with voting
in France (which I also do since I am also French).
They know I am from the quartier since my name is "Monsieur Gaston",
which is actually my dog's name. I buy my papers there all the time,
and other stuff except cigarettes and lotto stuff. I neither smoke
or gamble although my ³not sinning² largely ends there!
I wear American sweat shirts now and then, one with a "Sanibel Island" on
it, another from Arizona and a nice one with California Sea Otters on it.
Nobody knows who is American by their wear, a lot of French have American
sweat shirts, they wear levis etc.
But an election button is unique since the French don't to that, or bumper
stickers. Window stickers, yes things like "bébé abord" are pasted.
Anyway, I recommend Americans wearing their Kerry-Edward's buttons.
You might get a free drink and almost certainly will be cheer on!
Earl
Aug 29th 2004, 10:32 pm
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
On 29/08/04 23:01, in article [email protected],
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> (Do Europeans indulge in our
>> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
>>
> Not that I have noticed. Most Europeans would, I think, consider it a
> bit tacky.
Hard to say. The French republican tradition is in the schools, no scarves,
crosses or skull caps, no expression of religious or political preference.
But little crosses are worn by some people otherwise and of course, if you
have a rosette of the Légion d'Honneur, you might wear it. I have never
seen a French flag lapel button.
The French have the idea of understatement so if worn it might be nearly
unnoticeable. Nearly but not quite.
In one movie Louis de Funes plays a guy dying to get his Légion d'Honneur.
So he runs around trying to steal them off of other peoples lapels.
I joke with my wife since she has a Phi Beta Kappa key and I do not.
She never wears it and both her and her mother's are among other
low level jewelry items in a box somewhere. I threaten to wear one
but never have. My own minor award as an Illustrious Alumnus high school
award is attached to a large photo of me sitting over the toilet.
The higher the award, the less it is displayed. Nobel Prize winners
don't have to say or display a thing.
Earl
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> (Do Europeans indulge in our
>> obsession for slogan-bearing "buttons" for all occasions?)
>>
> Not that I have noticed. Most Europeans would, I think, consider it a
> bit tacky.
Hard to say. The French republican tradition is in the schools, no scarves,
crosses or skull caps, no expression of religious or political preference.
But little crosses are worn by some people otherwise and of course, if you
have a rosette of the Légion d'Honneur, you might wear it. I have never
seen a French flag lapel button.
The French have the idea of understatement so if worn it might be nearly
unnoticeable. Nearly but not quite.
In one movie Louis de Funes plays a guy dying to get his Légion d'Honneur.
So he runs around trying to steal them off of other peoples lapels.
I joke with my wife since she has a Phi Beta Kappa key and I do not.
She never wears it and both her and her mother's are among other
low level jewelry items in a box somewhere. I threaten to wear one
but never have. My own minor award as an Illustrious Alumnus high school
award is attached to a large photo of me sitting over the toilet.
The higher the award, the less it is displayed. Nobel Prize winners
don't have to say or display a thing.
Earl
Aug 29th 2004, 11:29 pm
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
On 29 Aug 2004 08:14:57 -0700, [email protected] (Suzy)
wrote:
>I am coming next week.
>Will I be treated better in France by
>wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
>button?
>My friends say that while Bush is detested
>in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
>Susan
If you want to provoke conversation and make an impression,
perhaps you should wear this T-shirt: ;-)
http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/_all/TB1112
Darby Jo
wrote:
>I am coming next week.
>Will I be treated better in France by
>wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
>button?
>My friends say that while Bush is detested
>in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
>Susan
If you want to provoke conversation and make an impression,
perhaps you should wear this T-shirt: ;-)
http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/_all/TB1112
Darby Jo
Aug 30th 2004, 1:12 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
Am 29 Aug 2004 08:14:57 -0700 schrieb Suzy:
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
I just imagine travelling around the USA with a button of a German
Chancelor-Candidate ;-)
Why bother about it? In my opinion wearing a button with the face of a
politician on it (regardless who it is) makes you look silly.
Regards,
Frank
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
I just imagine travelling around the USA with a button of a German
Chancelor-Candidate ;-)
Why bother about it? In my opinion wearing a button with the face of a
politician on it (regardless who it is) makes you look silly.
Regards,
Frank
Aug 30th 2004, 1:14 am
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Am 29 Aug 2004 19:45:19 GMT schrieb Steltzjr:
> Find a Clinton button and wear it.
Yep, and don't wonder why guys call you Monica and ask you to teach you
some french ;-)
[send pixxx now!!!!]
SCNR,
Frank
> Find a Clinton button and wear it.
Yep, and don't wonder why guys call you Monica and ask you to teach you
some french ;-)
[send pixxx now!!!!]
SCNR,
Frank
Aug 30th 2004, 3:22 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
[email protected] (Suzy) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
> I am coming next week.
>
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
> My friends say that while Bush is detested
> in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
>
> Susan
I doubt that people you will meet briefly will bother about your being
american.
Unless you hold a flag, have a texan hat and a T-shirt with "USA rules
the world";-).
People you get acquainted to might ask "BTW Suzy what do you think
about politics in your country? Is that true that..." But you should
not expect total stranger assaulting you for being american. As I
posted elsewhere you could be english, canadian, irish, australian,
south african... many english speaking people live in Paris.
If you stand for Bush, you can debate for hours! People will try to
prove their point of view till you agree with them or agree that you
disagree. To sum up you have absolutely nothing to be afraid of.
> I am coming next week.
>
> Will I be treated better in France by
> wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign
> button?
> My friends say that while Bush is detested
> in Europe Kerry is well thought of.
>
> Susan
I doubt that people you will meet briefly will bother about your being
american.
Unless you hold a flag, have a texan hat and a T-shirt with "USA rules
the world";-).
People you get acquainted to might ask "BTW Suzy what do you think
about politics in your country? Is that true that..." But you should
not expect total stranger assaulting you for being american. As I
posted elsewhere you could be english, canadian, irish, australian,
south african... many english speaking people live in Paris.
If you stand for Bush, you can debate for hours! People will try to
prove their point of view till you agree with them or agree that you
disagree. To sum up you have absolutely nothing to be afraid of.
Aug 30th 2004, 7:26 am
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Re: On wearing my Kerry-Edwards campaign button?
Darby Jo wrote:
>
>
> If you want to provoke conversation and make an impression,
> perhaps you should wear this T-shirt: ;-)
Yeah, that would work - and being in French create no hassle when
departing the monolingual U.S.! I'm not so sure about those shown here:
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/ (Especially when, if you try to acccess
the order page, you get "cannot find" messages from your browser!)
Originally they were offered with a choice of the slogan shown on the
referenced page, or "Bush lied, thousands died."
>
>
> If you want to provoke conversation and make an impression,
> perhaps you should wear this T-shirt: ;-)
Yeah, that would work - and being in French create no hassle when
departing the monolingual U.S.! I'm not so sure about those shown here:
http://www.votetoimpeach.org/ (Especially when, if you try to acccess
the order page, you get "cannot find" messages from your browser!)
Originally they were offered with a choice of the slogan shown on the
referenced page, or "Bush lied, thousands died."
