Miguel Cruz

Jim Morris wrote:
    >> He's also had 12 years to donate weapons to al Qaeda and hasn't.
    > How would you know?

Because he and al Qaeda are demonstrably enemies, and because there is not a
single shred of evidence that he has given them any. How do I know that
Saddam Hussein isn't a Martian? I start with common sense and then
corroborate with a lack of proof to the contrary.

    >> Instead, both Saddam and al Qaeda use weapons donated to them by the
    >> United States.
    > What weapons has the US given Saddam and AL Qaeda in the last 12 years?

None that I know of. Unlike milk, though, weapons last quite a while.

miguel
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Anonymoose

    >> ...
    >> ... The moral of the story is - give thanks
    >> ... to God on high that the French are not he
    >>Some of them are "she".
    >
    >
    > hello
    > what kind of god are you talking about ? not the christian one i think or
    > you didn't read the same bible as mine.God doesn't choose a side .
    > French , german , russian , chinese , japanese have not the same god ,

well maybe.

many russians and chinese are atheists and don't believe in deities.

of the chinese and japanese that do believe in deities many don't
believe in the deity of abraham and isaac (the jewish/xian/muslim deity).

    > I don't care about Us defeat in koréa .

the U.S. was never at War in/with Korea. the U.N. was/is and it's still
a stalemate.

    > Be proud of edison or bell
    > but not of custer or grant.

Custer and Grant are both Yankees and as such are the enemy.

in The South we revere those who stood up and fought for their
principles and their country.

Like Lee, Forrest, Jackson...

I should note that France aided The South in the War of Northern
Agression with the major of Cherbourg offering shelter to a CSA ship in
her port.

ttyl

akia
"The French are always nice to me."

--
"But to live outside the law, you must be honest"
Bob Dylan - Absolutely Sweet Marie - 1966

Anonymoose

    >>16 - First Vietnamese war (in Vietnamese
    >>circles, known as "the scrimmage", or
    >>"the exhibition game" where the varsity
    >>squad is kept on the sideline to see how
    >>the second string will play) - Lost.
    >>French soldiers, fresh off their four
    >>year occupation by the Germans, catch a
    >>terminal case of Dien Bien Flu.

This just goes to show you the extreme bias and lack of military
knowledge of the OP.

the Legion d'Etranger or Foreign Legion was at Dien Bien Fu and they
were mainly GERMANS.

and he conveniently skips the periods when Franks ruled most of europe.

ever hear of Charlemagne?


--
"But to live outside the law, you must be honest"
Bob Dylan - Absolutely Sweet Marie - 1966

Marie Lewis

In article , Hatunen
writes
    >Perhpas we need the toher philosphy of life-saving: if I save a
    >person's life I am forever responsible for his life.


I do not subscribe to this idea. It simply leads to resentment. Is
that what people want?
--
Marie Lewis

Mike O'Sullivan

"Aramis" wrote in message
news:a%[email protected]...
    > That is just about the funniest sh*# I have EVER read, my friend.
    > If you are not a writer, the world is worse for it. If you are, please
tell
    > me where I can read more of your epistles.
    > And I'm not just saying that because you lambasted my favourite historical
    > topic. Ever since I was 12 and saw "The World at War" documentary episode
    > that showed sweet young French fils petulantly beating on Allied soldiers
as
    > the soldiers rounded up their German boyfriends several weeks after D-Day,
    > my blood has run cold at the mention of Gallic military endeavours. I
would
    > have rounded up all those pretty young girls and trucked them up to the
    > beaches to bury my soldiers by hand if I had been the commanding Allied
    > officer.
It is not generally realised that there were actually more Frenchmen under
arms on the side of the Germans than under the Allies. The Vichy forces
didn't just go through the motions either. They really meant it.

Runge

You're reciting a well learnt lesson
Well I suggest you go out and kill the people you want to and leave us alone


"BJ" a écrit dans le message de news:
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    > > Turkey is aiding preparations for a war of aggression. They are not
    > > entitled to a NATO 'defence'.
    > It's not a question of entitlement it's a question of loyalty, a word
which Germany and France seems to have forgotten.
    > Is it so many years since American blood was spilt on the beaches of
Normandy to liberate France?, not so many years since the statement by
Kennedy
    > " Ich bien berlinner" or have the Germans forgotten the umbrella under
which they sheltered that was provided by the USA in their hour of need.
    > At this hour history will judge you, and your ancestors will be ashamed of
your selfish reaction, you the country who brought so much despair and
    > despoliation to Europe are yet again avoiding your responsibilities.
Hitler like Sadam depended upon a compliant nation, and you will be judged
by
    > your craven actions.
    > BJ

Runge

BJ wants war with France
But the war he wants is from behind his TV, munching his popcorn and
dirtying his XXXXL t -shirt .
Go on, tiger!
Hit them hard!
Show how you're brave!
BJ=Blow j*b???

"BJ" a écrit dans le message de news:
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    > Heard on Fox news this morning;
    > "French tanks are designed with six gears, five reverse and one forward
    > in case they get attacked in the rear."
    > BJ
    > (Antispam, drop pants to EMail)
    > All outgoing Emails checked for Virus with Norton.

Go Fig

In article ,
"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote:

    > "Aramis" wrote in message
    > news:a%[email protected]...
    > > That is just about the funniest sh*# I have EVER read, my friend.
    > >
    > > If you are not a writer, the world is worse for it. If you are, please
    > tell
    > > me where I can read more of your epistles.
    > >
    > > And I'm not just saying that because you lambasted my favourite historical
    > > topic. Ever since I was 12 and saw "The World at War" documentary episode
    > > that showed sweet young French fils petulantly beating on Allied soldiers
    > as
    > > the soldiers rounded up their German boyfriends several weeks after D-Day,
    > > my blood has run cold at the mention of Gallic military endeavours. I
    > would
    > > have rounded up all those pretty young girls and trucked them up to the
    > > beaches to bury my soldiers by hand if I had been the commanding Allied
    > > officer.
    > >
    > It is not generally realised that there were actually more Frenchmen under
    > arms on the side of the Germans than under the Allies. The Vichy forces
    > didn't just go through the motions either. They really meant it.

Except unlike the Germans they kept fewer written records.

jay
Fri, Feb 14, 2003
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--

Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

Justme

Anonymoose wrote in news:[email protected]:

    >> Be proud of edison or bell
    >> but not of custer or grant.
    >
    > Custer and Grant are both Yankees and as such are the enemy.
    >
    > in The South we revere those who stood up and fought for their
    > principles and their country.
    >

I was not talking about the civil war but about the native indian
extermination .

Arkadya

The funniest part is that Turkey is not arming itself with plastic and duct
tape...
you are.

Im not
Never Forgive, Never Forget
9-11-01

Dave Smith

Jim Morris wrote:

    > > How I understand it, is that they don't want to prepare for war, when
    > > war could still be avoided. When the war starts, they will help Turkey
    > > to *defend* itself.
    > Dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. "After it Starts?" Ahh, might
    > be to late then.... duh... Probably on the first day Saddam will start
    > launching
    > missiles full of Toxins, Anthrax, VX, etc... all over the region.
    > I think their protection is needed before that happens.

What missiles full of toxins and anthrax?

    > Sharing defense-resources is what Nato was created

That is what the US military industrial complex has tried to turn it into, but
it was created as a mutual defense alliance in case one of them was invaded. No
member of NATO has been invaded, and no member of NATO is under threat of
invasion.


    > Considering the vote was something like 16-3 in favor of defending Turkey
    > I think France, Germany, and Belgium's opinion is in the minority and well,
    > a bit childish and arrogant. This considering for most of the last 40 years
    > France had no interest in being a big part of NATO during the tough times
    > in the Cold War. Of course after the Soviet threat was gone
    > they showed a greater interest in NATO's affairs.

Yeah. Right.

Go Fig

In article ,
Dave Smith wrote:

    > Jim Morris wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > > How I understand it, is that they don't want to prepare for war, when
    > > > war could still be avoided. When the war starts, they will help Turkey
    > > > to *defend* itself.
    > >
    > > Dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. "After it Starts?" Ahh, might
    > > be to late then.... duh... Probably on the first day Saddam will start
    > > launching
    > > missiles full of Toxins, Anthrax, VX, etc... all over the region.
    > > I think their protection is needed before that happens.
    >
    > What missiles full of toxins and anthrax?
    >
    > > Sharing defense-resources is what Nato was created
    >
    > That is what the US military industrial complex has tried to turn it into,
    > but
    > it was created as a mutual defense alliance in case one of them was invaded.
    > No
    > member of NATO has been invaded, and no member of NATO is under threat of
    > invasion.


And the foray into the former Yugoslavia fits this scenario how ?

jay
Fri, Feb 14, 2003
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Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

Michael Kennedy

"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
news:IK%[email protected]...
    > Jim Morris wrote:
    > > If we don't look out for our own ass, it will be blown off by a weapon
    > > donated to AL Qaeda from Saddam.
    > >
    > > Saddam has had 12 years to disarm and hasn't.
    > He's also had 12 years to donate weapons to al Qaeda and hasn't. Instead,
    > both Saddam and al Qaeda use weapons donated to them by the United States.

Which were those ? The T-72 tanks ? The Mirage jets ? Gerard Bull's
supergun ? A little selective memory here.

Michael Kennedy


    > miguel
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    > Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu

Michael Kennedy

"Dave Smith" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Jim Morris wrote:
    > >
    > > > How I understand it, is that they don't want to prepare for war, when
    > > > war could still be avoided. When the war starts, they will help Turkey
    > > > to *defend* itself.
    > >
    > > Dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. "After it Starts?" Ahh, might
    > > be to late then.... duh... Probably on the first day Saddam will start
    > > launching
    > > missiles full of Toxins, Anthrax, VX, etc... all over the region.
    > > I think their protection is needed before that happens.
    > What missiles full of toxins and anthrax?
    > > Sharing defense-resources is what Nato was created
    > That is what the US military industrial complex has tried to turn it into,
but
    > it was created as a mutual defense alliance in case one of them was
invaded. No
    > member of NATO has been invaded, and no member of NATO is under threat of
    > invasion.

Guess we can go home then. Rumsfeld is going to move troops out of Germany
and Korea. It's about 10 years late but better now than never.

Michael Kennedy

Devil

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:39:11 +0000, Michael Kennedy wrote:

    >
    > "Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
    > news:IK%[email protected]...
    >> Jim Morris wrote:
    >> > If we don't look out for our own ass, it will be blown off by a weapon
    >> > donated to AL Qaeda from Saddam.
    >> >
    >> > Saddam has had 12 years to disarm and hasn't.
    >> He's also had 12 years to donate weapons to al Qaeda and hasn't. Instead,
    >> both Saddam and al Qaeda use weapons donated to them by the United States.
    >
    > Which were those ? The T-72 tanks ? The Mirage jets ? Gerard Bull's
    > supergun ? A little selective memory here.


Didn't you forget the gas stuff he used against Iran. Back when he used
to work as a US surrogate? Where did you think that came from?