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Old Aug 17th 2002, 10:55 am
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Mike O'Sullivan
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"mrtravel" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Big Al wrote:
    > >
    > > > 5 years? Mine expires in 2/3 years time, will that be a problem?
    > >
    > > No problem whatsoever if you're a UK citizen on a British passport. I
cross
    > > via the Channel Tunnel fairly frequently and half the time the French passport
    > > control bit is empty - no doubt due to fag breaks
    > They have breaks for homosexuals? I was on a plane once and there was some
    > discussion about having a fag in the lav.

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fag in my mouth"
 
Old Aug 17th 2002, 10:56 am
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"Eriobotrya Japonica" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...[/q1]
    > Why can't you use identity card? Does the UK not have them?
No, thankfully.
 
Old Aug 17th 2002, 11:19 am
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:44:36 +0100, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: but then
again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!

    >5 years? Mine expires in 2/3 years time, will that be a problem?

A child's one? Usually 5 year passports are only issued to under 16s. They are OK.
The term Full 10 year is only to differentiate between full passports and then old 1
year ones. A bit pointless since they were abolished a decade ago (IIRC).

If its otherwise the same as a 10 year one, its OK.

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Old Aug 17th 2002, 11:21 am
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On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:51:27 GMT, "Stephen C. Gallagher"
<[email protected]> wrote: but then again I might just have
mucked up the snipping as usual!
    >> >Are there any visa requirements? I doubt it, but...
    >> Not if you're a British citizen with right of abode in the UK (unlike some of the
    >> more obscure types of British citizenship left over from imperial times).
    >A person with the nationality status "British Citizen" automatically has right of
    >abode in the UK.

But there are people with British passports who do not have that right. British
(Overseas) passport holders.

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Old Aug 17th 2002, 12:15 pm
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What about Schengen?

"Mike O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1029581715.21717.0.nnrp-10.c1ed6aae-
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    > <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:13:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
    > >
    > > >> Also I have heard that one needs a 10 year UK Passport else entry to France
    > > >> will be refused .....
    > > >
    > > >Yes, you do.
    > >
    > > That's just plain silly.
    > The rationale being that we in the UK do not have a national identity card as the
    > citizens of the more regimented countries of the EU do. Therefore a passport is
    > needed to prove identity on entry to an EU country.
 
Old Aug 17th 2002, 1:47 pm
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On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 14:15:26 +0200, "Euroboy" <[email protected]> wrote: but then
again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!
    >What about Schengen?

The UK is not in Schengen.

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Old Aug 17th 2002, 4:55 pm
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Megan <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Stephen C. Gallagher" but then again I might just have mucked up the snipping
    > as usual!
    >>>> Are there any visa requirements? I doubt it, but...
    >>> Not if you're a British citizen with right of abode in the UK (unlike some of the
    >>> more obscure types of British citizenship left over from imperial times).
    >> A person with the nationality status "British Citizen" automatically has right of
    >> abode in the UK.
    > But there are people with British passports who do not have that right. British
    > (Overseas) passport holders.

These are mainly the Hong Kongese, right?

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Old Aug 17th 2002, 6:50 pm
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Megan <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > "Stephen C. Gallagher" but then again I might just have mucked up the snipping as
    > > usual!
    > >
    > >>>> Are there any visa requirements? I doubt it, but...
    > >>>
    > >>> Not if you're a British citizen with right of abode in the UK (unlike some of
    > >>> the more obscure types of British citizenship left over from imperial times).
    > >>
    > >> A person with the nationality status "British Citizen" automatically has right
    > >> of abode in the UK.
    > >
    > > But there are people with British passports who do not have that right. British
    > > (Overseas) passport holders.
    > These are mainly the Hong Kongese, right?
all sorts of difference passports from all sorts of different places over the years -
Gib, India sub cont, HK, various Carib Islands etc etc. Hence a 'British' passport
always needs to be qualified.
 
Old Aug 17th 2002, 9:30 pm
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"Megan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:51:27 GMT, "Stephen C. Gallagher"
    > <[email protected]> wrote: but then again I might just have
    > mucked up the snipping as usual!
    > >
    > >> >Are there any visa requirements? I doubt it, but...
    > >>
    > >> Not if you're a British citizen with right of abode in the UK (unlike some of
    > >> the more obscure types of British citizenship left over from imperial times).
    > >
    > >A person with the nationality status "British Citizen" automatically has right of
    > >abode in the UK.
    > >
    > But there are people with British passports who do not have that right. British
    > (Overseas) passport holders.

They may have British passports, but they're not "British Citizens".
 
Old Aug 17th 2002, 11:37 pm
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"Euroboy" wrote
    > "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote
    > > > >> Also I have heard that one needs a 10 year UK Passport else entry to France
    > > > >> will be refused .....
    > > > >Yes, you do.
    > > > That's just plain silly.
    > > The rationale being that we in the UK do not have a national identity card as the
    > > citizens of the more regimented countries of the EU do. Therefore a passport is
    > > needed to prove identity on entry to an EU country.
    > What about Schengen?

We aren't in it. UK and Ireland remained outside the agreement due to fears of
terrorism. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/europe/euro-glossary/1230052.stm

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Old Aug 18th 2002, 8:54 pm
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As Great Britain is a member of the European Union, passports should not be needed if
you are a British subject. Danielle "Big Al" <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]
pol.co.uk
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    > > 5 years? Mine expires in 2/3 years time, will that be a problem?
    > No problem whatsoever if you're a UK citizen on a British passport. I
cross
    > via the Channel Tunnel fairly frequently and half the time the French passport
    > control bit is empty - no doubt due to fag breaks.
    > One time my friend left his passport at home - got into France ok because the
    > French weren't there. The hardest bit was getting back into the UK
but
    > he just sweet-talked the British customs man and he waved us through.
 
Old Aug 18th 2002, 8:59 pm
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:54:43 GMT, "Danielle" <[email protected]> wrote: but then
again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!
    >As Great Britain is a member of the European Union, passports should not be needed
    >if you are a British subject. Danielle

This is *not* true. Britain is not in Shengen and does not have a national ID card.
Therefore a passport is required even within the EU. The only exception is Ireland
and that is a separate agreement pre-dating either country's membership of the EU or
its predecessor organisations.

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Old Aug 18th 2002, 9:05 pm
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In article <[email protected] >, Danielle
<[email protected]> writes
    >As Great Britain is a member of the European Union, passports should not be needed
    >if you are a British subject. Danielle


They are needed because we do not have any other officially accepted photo identity.
Nor are we members of the Schengen Treaty countries.

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Old Aug 18th 2002, 9:32 pm
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"Megan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:54:43 GMT, "Danielle" <[email protected]> wrote: but then
    > again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!
    > >As Great Britain is a member of the European Union, passports should not
be
    > >needed if you are a British subject. Danielle
    > This is *not* true. Britain is not in Shengen and does not have a national ID
    > card. Therefore a passport is required even within the EU. The only exception is
    > Ireland and that is a separate agreement pre-dating either country's membership of
    > the EU or its predecessor organisations.
half true - you dont need a passport if you can 'prove' you are an EU citizen. Of
course, until the UK comes out in the open about the nation ID cards that all new
drivering licences come with, you still need a passport to 'prove' you are a UK
citizen. If there was any other to 'prove' UK citizenship, that would be allowed.
Same as you are 'allowed' to bring as much EU booze and fags into the country as you
want, despite what UK Customs say.
 
Old Aug 18th 2002, 9:35 pm
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Originally posted by Megan:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:54:43 GMT, "Danielle" <[email protected]> wrote: but then
again I might just have mucked up the snipping as usual!
    >As Great Britain is a member of the European Union, passports should not be needed
    >if you are a British subject. Danielle

This is *not* true. Britain is not in Shengen and does not have a national ID card.
Therefore a passport is required even within the EU. The only exception is Ireland
and that is a separate agreement pre-dating either country's membership of the EU or
its predecessor organisations.

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