The very best place to live?
Aug 10th 2003, 7:54 am
#76
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Re: The very best place to live?
Derek F wrote:
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> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > john wrote:
> > >
> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
> in
> > > Berkley etc.
> > >
> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
> >
> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> > all?
> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
> easy.
Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
"hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
>
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > john wrote:
> > >
> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
> in
> > > Berkley etc.
> > >
> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
> >
> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> > all?
> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
> easy.
Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
"hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
Aug 10th 2003, 9:32 am
#77
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Re: The very best place to live?
In article <[email protected]>,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> john wrote:
> >
> > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g in
> > Berkley etc.
> >
> > Is it still like that (northern California)?
>
> Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> all?
San Francisco attracts homeless people from around the country because
of the mild climate and liberal reputation of the city (police aren't as
brutal, etc.) So no, it isn't "like" "nearly everywhere in the world" in
that regard.
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> john wrote:
> >
> > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g in
> > Berkley etc.
> >
> > Is it still like that (northern California)?
>
> Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> all?
San Francisco attracts homeless people from around the country because
of the mild climate and liberal reputation of the city (police aren't as
brutal, etc.) So no, it isn't "like" "nearly everywhere in the world" in
that regard.
Aug 10th 2003, 11:33 am
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Re: The very best place to live?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:54:56 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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>
> Derek F wrote:
>>
>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >
>> > john wrote:
>> > >
>> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
>> in
>> > > Berkley etc.
>> > >
>> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
>> >
>> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
>> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
>> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
>> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
>> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
>> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
>> > all?
>> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
>> easy.
>
> Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
> GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
> "hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
> ("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
> CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
But perhpas it's time for someone to spell it right? Anyway, you just go
through the tunnel from the Oakland/Berkeley side toward Walnut Creek (is
that highway 13, or 17 or 26, I can't remember). On the other side, it
gets damn hot.
>
>
> Derek F wrote:
>>
>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >
>> > john wrote:
>> > >
>> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
>> in
>> > > Berkley etc.
>> > >
>> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
>> >
>> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
>> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
>> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
>> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
>> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
>> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
>> > all?
>> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
>> easy.
>
> Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
> GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
> "hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
> ("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
> CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
But perhpas it's time for someone to spell it right? Anyway, you just go
through the tunnel from the Oakland/Berkeley side toward Walnut Creek (is
that highway 13, or 17 or 26, I can't remember). On the other side, it
gets damn hot.
Aug 10th 2003, 2:47 pm
#79
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Re: The very best place to live?
devil wrote:
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> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:54:56 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Derek F wrote:
> >>
> >> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > john wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
> >> in
> >> > > Berkley etc.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
> >> >
> >> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> >> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> >> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> >> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> >> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> >> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> >> > all?
> >> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
> >> easy.
> >
> > Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
> > GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
> > "hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
> > ("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
> > CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
>
> But perhpas it's time for someone to spell it right?
You're right, of course - it didn't LOOK right, but I assumed the poster
I was answering knew how to spell it. (;-<)
> Anyway, you just go
> through the tunnel from the Oakland/Berkeley side toward Walnut Creek (is
> that highway 13, or 17 or 26, I can't remember). On the other side, it
> gets damn hot.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:54:56 -0700, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Derek F wrote:
> >>
> >> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > john wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > when I went there 10 years ago there were quite a lot of homeless. e.g
> >> in
> >> > > Berkley etc.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it still like that (northern California)?
> >> >
> >> > Isn't it "still like that" nearly everywhere in the world, these days?
> >> > The ethnic make-up may vary from country to country, the reasons for
> >> > being homeless may differ, but SFAIK it's one of the plagues of modern
> >> > civilization. ....Although actually, beggars have existed all through
> >> > history, and in all cultures - they may be less in evidence where they
> >> > are treated as criminals, but when (and where) have they not existed at
> >> > all?
> >> The Californian climate must attract them. Summertime and the livin' is
> >> easy.
> >
> > Umm.... Berkely is in NORTHERN California - The Bay area doesn't really
> > GET much "summer" as such (when the temp hits 80F, it's considered
> > "hot") - and winters tend to be damp and decidedly on the chilly side.
> > ("Sunny California" refers mainly to the Southern portion - where we
> > CERTAINLY have our share of homeless.)
>
> But perhpas it's time for someone to spell it right?
You're right, of course - it didn't LOOK right, but I assumed the poster
I was answering knew how to spell it. (;-<)
> Anyway, you just go
> through the tunnel from the Oakland/Berkeley side toward Walnut Creek (is
> that highway 13, or 17 or 26, I can't remember). On the other side, it
> gets damn hot.
