Venice
Jan 13th 2005, 6:57 am
#46
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Re: Venice
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:56:48 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
>>> some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
>>> feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
>>> to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
>>The weather will be cold and wet. ( Predicting below freezing for tonight).
>>Nice for hurrying about. Trains to Padova and Verona run often -- many
>>people commute to work in Venice from there. But if you go to either, you
>>really want to spnd much of a day there -- which lessens your time in
>>Venice. If you have never been to Venice before there will be plenty to do
>>the hinterlands ( pace Padovans!). Trieste trains are less frequent, & a
>>longer trip. Can be done in a rushed day, but it is less attractive than Pad
>>or Ver.
>>Don't try to do too much in a few days -- much of the pleasure of a place
>>like Venice is becoming familiar with it.
>Okay, Trieste is on the back burner.
>Five nights in Venice give us four-and-a-half days for exploring. My
>guess is that it's about 50-50 that we'll make a side trip.
On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
>>> some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
>>> feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
>>> to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
>>The weather will be cold and wet. ( Predicting below freezing for tonight).
>>Nice for hurrying about. Trains to Padova and Verona run often -- many
>>people commute to work in Venice from there. But if you go to either, you
>>really want to spnd much of a day there -- which lessens your time in
>>Venice. If you have never been to Venice before there will be plenty to do
>>the hinterlands ( pace Padovans!). Trieste trains are less frequent, & a
>>longer trip. Can be done in a rushed day, but it is less attractive than Pad
>>or Ver.
>>Don't try to do too much in a few days -- much of the pleasure of a place
>>like Venice is becoming familiar with it.
>Okay, Trieste is on the back burner.
>Five nights in Venice give us four-and-a-half days for exploring. My
>guess is that it's about 50-50 that we'll make a side trip.
On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
--
Martin
Jan 13th 2005, 7:20 am
#47
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Re: Venice
which Venice are you talking about, CNN just said they dont have
enough, causing boats to get stuck
enough, causing boats to get stuck
Jan 13th 2005, 7:25 am
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Re: Venice
On 13 Jan 2005 12:20:29 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>which Venice are you talking about, CNN just said they dont have
>enough, causing boats to get stuck
CNN is talking about Venice California.
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Martin
>which Venice are you talking about, CNN just said they dont have
>enough, causing boats to get stuck
CNN is talking about Venice California.
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Martin
Jan 13th 2005, 7:30 am
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Re: Venice
'Gondolas are running aground and Hotel docks hang in midair as Italys
lagoon city Venice.....'
lagoon city Venice.....'
Jan 13th 2005, 7:44 am
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Re: Venice
On 13 Jan 2005 12:30:48 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>'Gondolas are running aground and Hotel docks hang in midair as Italys
>lagoon city Venice.....'
Is the tide out?
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Martin
>'Gondolas are running aground and Hotel docks hang in midair as Italys
>lagoon city Venice.....'
Is the tide out?
--
Martin
Jan 13th 2005, 8:12 am
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Re: Venice
On 13 Jan 2005 12:54:24 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>now you're getting technical
It's neaps.
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Martin
>now you're getting technical
It's neaps.
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Martin
Jan 13th 2005, 8:47 am
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Re: Venice
Padraig Breathnach wrote:
> I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
> Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
> I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
If you are looking for budget, you might consider the advice we had when
we went, stay in Padua and take the train in to Venice. It's only about 20
minutes by rail. Of course we missed getting the full Venice experience.
Unfortunately, we were on a tight schedule because our rail pass was
running out and we had to get back to Paris. On the plus side, we got to
see some of Padua as well.
> I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
> Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
> I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
If you are looking for budget, you might consider the advice we had when
we went, stay in Padua and take the train in to Venice. It's only about 20
minutes by rail. Of course we missed getting the full Venice experience.
Unfortunately, we were on a tight schedule because our rail pass was
running out and we had to get back to Paris. On the plus side, we got to
see some of Padua as well.
Jan 13th 2005, 1:53 pm
#54
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Re: Venice
Well, I stayed at the Centro Don Orione Artigianelli Convent last
year...it is very modern, books single and couples ..didn't see any of
the sisters...the rooms they book are in their own wing, often used
for conferences, etc. it is less than 5 mins form the Accademia
Bridge, on the way to Zattere. My room was comfortable, phone, large
closet, a desk, the bed was wonderful (plenty of extra blankets if
needed), bathroom very modern, shower, hairblower, heated towel rack
[!!] (especially wonderful in chilly Feb). My recollection was a 1am
curfew, but in February not a problem for me, given the fog and cold.
Most wonderful was a high intensity reading lamp right on the wall at
the bed so you coud tuck in for a short read before dropping off.
Breakfast (some breads, normal morning beverages) was
included..nothing fancy; I usually picked up some fruit the day before
to supplement, though I am not a big breakfast eater and often prefer
to pick up something while I am wandering. Feb 04 I paid ~65 euro
for a single. Staff was pleasant, room was clean and quiet. Don't
know what their rates are this year.
Just a few doors down was a small office which had internet access
(was open 9am-1pm) very cheap.
I was there 5 days and spent my time exploring various areas, such as
the old Ghetto, Dorsoduro, San Polo, etc. I had planned on a
different area each day and found myself walking up to 10 miles per
day or more. San Tomas Trattoria was one of the better meals I had,
facing right onto the square. The other meals were fine, nothing
special. (The best meals in the whole month were in Perugia!).
In 1995 I stayed at the Pensione Guerrato (near the fish market).
Saggy beds, and the noise of the market being set up is intrusive. I
believe their rates have gone up considerably and they may have
renovated the place.
www.donorione-venezia.it
[email protected]
.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:37:53 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Will you be making any day trips this time?
>People here may have noted the factor which dominates my trip
>planning: caprice.
>Herself and I had a conversation, and decided to try to arrange a few
>days in Lisbon. Preliminary research turned up no convenient and
>inexpensive travel options so Herself, knowing my tastes in wine,
>suggested that we visit Bordeaux. "Fine", I agreed, "I'll arrange
>something", and she went off to a meeting. I phoned her later, and
>asked her about adjusting our dates. She checked her diary,
>rescheduled some things, and agreed. "So we're going to Bordeaux for
>those days?" "No," I said, "Venice". "Oh, good" was her reply. She's
>used to me.
>Which indicates why I can't answer your question. I haven't a clue
>what I'm doing.
>I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
>some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
>feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
>to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
>--
>PB
>The return address has been MUNGED
year...it is very modern, books single and couples ..didn't see any of
the sisters...the rooms they book are in their own wing, often used
for conferences, etc. it is less than 5 mins form the Accademia
Bridge, on the way to Zattere. My room was comfortable, phone, large
closet, a desk, the bed was wonderful (plenty of extra blankets if
needed), bathroom very modern, shower, hairblower, heated towel rack
[!!] (especially wonderful in chilly Feb). My recollection was a 1am
curfew, but in February not a problem for me, given the fog and cold.
Most wonderful was a high intensity reading lamp right on the wall at
the bed so you coud tuck in for a short read before dropping off.
Breakfast (some breads, normal morning beverages) was
included..nothing fancy; I usually picked up some fruit the day before
to supplement, though I am not a big breakfast eater and often prefer
to pick up something while I am wandering. Feb 04 I paid ~65 euro
for a single. Staff was pleasant, room was clean and quiet. Don't
know what their rates are this year.
Just a few doors down was a small office which had internet access
(was open 9am-1pm) very cheap.
I was there 5 days and spent my time exploring various areas, such as
the old Ghetto, Dorsoduro, San Polo, etc. I had planned on a
different area each day and found myself walking up to 10 miles per
day or more. San Tomas Trattoria was one of the better meals I had,
facing right onto the square. The other meals were fine, nothing
special. (The best meals in the whole month were in Perugia!).
In 1995 I stayed at the Pensione Guerrato (near the fish market).
Saggy beds, and the noise of the market being set up is intrusive. I
believe their rates have gone up considerably and they may have
renovated the place.
www.donorione-venezia.it
[email protected]
.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:37:53 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Will you be making any day trips this time?
>People here may have noted the factor which dominates my trip
>planning: caprice.
>Herself and I had a conversation, and decided to try to arrange a few
>days in Lisbon. Preliminary research turned up no convenient and
>inexpensive travel options so Herself, knowing my tastes in wine,
>suggested that we visit Bordeaux. "Fine", I agreed, "I'll arrange
>something", and she went off to a meeting. I phoned her later, and
>asked her about adjusting our dates. She checked her diary,
>rescheduled some things, and agreed. "So we're going to Bordeaux for
>those days?" "No," I said, "Venice". "Oh, good" was her reply. She's
>used to me.
>Which indicates why I can't answer your question. I haven't a clue
>what I'm doing.
>I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
>some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
>feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
>to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
>--
>PB
>The return address has been MUNGED
Jan 13th 2005, 7:15 pm
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Re: Venice
In May 2003 we stayed at Hotel Villa Rosa, in Cannaregio quite close to both
rail station & vaporetto stop if you are arriving via airport bus to
Piazzale Roma. From Piazzale Roma it is a 5-10 minute walk, or a couple of
vaporetto stops. For vaporetto value, check out the 3 day pass- it's
virtually the same price as two single days & allows transport all over the
lagoon, including Murano, Burano & Torcello (magnificent if you are into
mosaics)
Hotel Villa Rosa is listed as a 1 star, has en suite bathrooms but no
lifts. Friendly staff, the usual Italian breakfast (there are plenty of bars
nearby). There is a pleasant garden area, though I expect this is not a
major consideration in February. In an expensive city we found it value for
money & would return. I note that Trip Advisor has 6 good reviews. Villa
Rosa has a website you can check out, or through Venere. We enjoyed staying
in Cannaregio which retains a "local" atmosphere, with reasonable (for
Venice) restaurants, small shops, side canals and parks. The walk to San
Marco area is about 20 minutes, with lots of twists, tuns & opportunities to
get lost. And Venice is the best city in which to get lost. Alternatively a
vaporetto pass allows unlimited transport along the Grand Canal.
Sandra
lurking in Adelaide
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks,
> I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
> Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
> I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
> I know you won't let me down.
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
rail station & vaporetto stop if you are arriving via airport bus to
Piazzale Roma. From Piazzale Roma it is a 5-10 minute walk, or a couple of
vaporetto stops. For vaporetto value, check out the 3 day pass- it's
virtually the same price as two single days & allows transport all over the
lagoon, including Murano, Burano & Torcello (magnificent if you are into
mosaics)
Hotel Villa Rosa is listed as a 1 star, has en suite bathrooms but no
lifts. Friendly staff, the usual Italian breakfast (there are plenty of bars
nearby). There is a pleasant garden area, though I expect this is not a
major consideration in February. In an expensive city we found it value for
money & would return. I note that Trip Advisor has 6 good reviews. Villa
Rosa has a website you can check out, or through Venere. We enjoyed staying
in Cannaregio which retains a "local" atmosphere, with reasonable (for
Venice) restaurants, small shops, side canals and parks. The walk to San
Marco area is about 20 minutes, with lots of twists, tuns & opportunities to
get lost. And Venice is the best city in which to get lost. Alternatively a
vaporetto pass allows unlimited transport along the Grand Canal.
Sandra
lurking in Adelaide
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks,
> I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
> Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
> I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
> I know you won't let me down.
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
Jan 14th 2005, 4:02 am
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Re: Venice
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
Venice is always wet.
Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
the water level.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
>On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
Venice is always wet.
Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
the water level.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jan 14th 2005, 4:23 am
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Re: Venice
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:02:29 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
>Venice is always wet.
>Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
>was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
>sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
>the water level.
It's LLWS
--
Martin
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
>Venice is always wet.
>Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
>was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
>sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
>the water level.
It's LLWS
--
Martin
Jan 14th 2005, 10:40 am
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Re: Venice
I wrote:
>I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
>guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
>three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
>I know you won't let me down.
My thanks to all who made suggestions on accommodation -- an
impressive set of good recommendations.
I think we are sorted now, but it is subject to written confirmation.
We expect to be in an apartment recommended by Bob Fusillo. If that
doesn't work out, we have a number of backups identified with the help
of people here. So I was right to declare that I knew you wouldn't let
me down.
I suppose I had better find out why we want to go to Venice. Maybe
people here can tell me.
So far I have canals, gondolas, Marco Polo, St. Mark's Square with
church and campanile, palazzos, the Rialto, the Bridge of Sighs,
glass, The Merchant of..., various films ("Don't Look Now" comes to
mind), barcaroles, Canaletto, "just one Cornetto", floods, holding
"the gorgeous east in fee", the Doge, his palace, the sunset
silhouette which hung on the wall of my grandparents' house,
vaporettos, blinds, expensive cups of coffee.
Am I equipped with the right mindset?
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
>I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
>guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
>three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
>I know you won't let me down.
My thanks to all who made suggestions on accommodation -- an
impressive set of good recommendations.
I think we are sorted now, but it is subject to written confirmation.
We expect to be in an apartment recommended by Bob Fusillo. If that
doesn't work out, we have a number of backups identified with the help
of people here. So I was right to declare that I knew you wouldn't let
me down.
I suppose I had better find out why we want to go to Venice. Maybe
people here can tell me.
So far I have canals, gondolas, Marco Polo, St. Mark's Square with
church and campanile, palazzos, the Rialto, the Bridge of Sighs,
glass, The Merchant of..., various films ("Don't Look Now" comes to
mind), barcaroles, Canaletto, "just one Cornetto", floods, holding
"the gorgeous east in fee", the Doge, his palace, the sunset
silhouette which hung on the wall of my grandparents' house,
vaporettos, blinds, expensive cups of coffee.
Am I equipped with the right mindset?
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
Jan 14th 2005, 10:58 am
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Re: Venice
Sounds great. All you are missing is a trip to Burano Island and sample the
seafood pate' , and the unforgettable seafood lasagne. Oh, and I forgot,
the Calimari, the wine and the seafood lasagne and the wine and the wine..
Cant wait to get back there again this year after the magnificent
experience of Venice last year.
KPA
--
Email - drop the second "s" in "travsubs"
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I wrote:
> >I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> >guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> >three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
> >
> >I know you won't let me down.
> >
> My thanks to all who made suggestions on accommodation -- an
> impressive set of good recommendations.
> I think we are sorted now, but it is subject to written confirmation.
> We expect to be in an apartment recommended by Bob Fusillo. If that
> doesn't work out, we have a number of backups identified with the help
> of people here. So I was right to declare that I knew you wouldn't let
> me down.
> I suppose I had better find out why we want to go to Venice. Maybe
> people here can tell me.
> So far I have canals, gondolas, Marco Polo, St. Mark's Square with
> church and campanile, palazzos, the Rialto, the Bridge of Sighs,
> glass, The Merchant of..., various films ("Don't Look Now" comes to
> mind), barcaroles, Canaletto, "just one Cornetto", floods, holding
> "the gorgeous east in fee", the Doge, his palace, the sunset
> silhouette which hung on the wall of my grandparents' house,
> vaporettos, blinds, expensive cups of coffee.
> Am I equipped with the right mindset?
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
seafood pate' , and the unforgettable seafood lasagne. Oh, and I forgot,
the Calimari, the wine and the seafood lasagne and the wine and the wine..
Cant wait to get back there again this year after the magnificent
experience of Venice last year.
KPA
--
Email - drop the second "s" in "travsubs"
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I wrote:
> >I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
> >guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
> >three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
> >
> >I know you won't let me down.
> >
> My thanks to all who made suggestions on accommodation -- an
> impressive set of good recommendations.
> I think we are sorted now, but it is subject to written confirmation.
> We expect to be in an apartment recommended by Bob Fusillo. If that
> doesn't work out, we have a number of backups identified with the help
> of people here. So I was right to declare that I knew you wouldn't let
> me down.
> I suppose I had better find out why we want to go to Venice. Maybe
> people here can tell me.
> So far I have canals, gondolas, Marco Polo, St. Mark's Square with
> church and campanile, palazzos, the Rialto, the Bridge of Sighs,
> glass, The Merchant of..., various films ("Don't Look Now" comes to
> mind), barcaroles, Canaletto, "just one Cornetto", floods, holding
> "the gorgeous east in fee", the Doge, his palace, the sunset
> silhouette which hung on the wall of my grandparents' house,
> vaporettos, blinds, expensive cups of coffee.
> Am I equipped with the right mindset?
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
Jan 14th 2005, 11:18 am
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Re: Venice
"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
> Venice is always wet.
> Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
> was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
> sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
> the water level.
It even made the news in Mass-a-chew-sweets today.
But I think most people thought they were talking about the Venice hotel in
Vegas.
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:44 +0100, nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Euronews this evening Venice looked very wet. Take your waders.
> Venice is always wet.
> Actually, on Italian news, either yesterday or the day before, there
> was a piece about record LOW tides in Venice, which had revealed all
> sorts of buidling defects and other ugly things that are usually below
> the water level.
It even made the news in Mass-a-chew-sweets today.
But I think most people thought they were talking about the Venice hotel in
Vegas.
