Geodyne

Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
    >
    > I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    > some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    > feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    > to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
    >
Trieste is worth it as a day trip, although it's roughly a 3-hour train
ride (I've done Venice as a day trip from Trieste more than once
before). The town has a quite distinct feel from much of the rest of
northern Italy because of the strength of the Austrian influence.

There's an Austrian castle on the waterfront on the eastern side of
Trieste - Castello di Miramar, which has buses running to it. Worth the
visit, as are the Roman ruins and the castle (Castello si San Gusto) on
the hill above the middle of town. It's also nice to catch the cable car
up the hill to Opicina, a small hill village sitting in the limestone
karst which is considered the upmarket outer suburb. It leaves from the
Piazza Oberdan. A bus ride to the east of Opicina will take you to
Grotta Gigante, which is the largest limestone cave in the world open to
tourists.

Geodyne

Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn

Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    > some curiosity about Trieste.

Ommagio a Joyce?

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Bob Fusillo

I don't know your habits/tastes, but. . . .
One of the unfortunate things about Venice is that it is a short stop for
most people. Restaurants never see the same people twice. If, therfore, you
show up three day in a row, you are a regular and become one of the family.
As Barbara says, Venice is not a gourmet town, but she underrates it -- the
food is "good" -- not great or even memorable, but good and well made. The
fish, of course, is what it is famous for, and you won't get fish better
anywhere else.

The telly calls -- back later . . . . .

rjf


"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >Will you be making any day trips this time?
    > People here may have noted the factor which dominates my trip
    > planning: caprice.
    > Herself and I had a conversation, and decided to try to arrange a few
    > days in Lisbon. Preliminary research turned up no convenient and
    > inexpensive travel options so Herself, knowing my tastes in wine,
    > suggested that we visit Bordeaux. "Fine", I agreed, "I'll arrange
    > something", and she went off to a meeting. I phoned her later, and
    > asked her about adjusting our dates. She checked her diary,
    > rescheduled some things, and agreed. "So we're going to Bordeaux for
    > those days?" "No," I said, "Venice". "Oh, good" was her reply. She's
    > used to me.
    > Which indicates why I can't answer your question. I haven't a clue
    > what I'm doing.
    > I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    > some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    > feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    > to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
    > --
    > PB
    > The return address has been MUNGED

Tim Challenger

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:50:55 +0000, Padraig Breathnach wrote:

    > Folks,
    >
    > I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
    >
    > Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
    >
    > I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
    > guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
    > three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
    >
    > I know you won't let me down.

Don't drink the water ;-)

--
Tim C.

Nitram

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:55:10 +0100, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:50:55 +0000, Padraig Breathnach wrote:
    >> Folks,
    >>
    >> I've done it again -- booked flights and made no other arrangements.
    >>
    >> Herself and I are going to Venice in February (16th to 21st).
    >>
    >> I'm now inviting advice from the gang here and, most particularly,
    >> guidance on finding accommodation. We generally go for two- or
    >> three-star standard, our trade-off between quality and budget pricing.
    >>
    >> I know you won't let me down.
    >Don't drink the water ;-)

be careful crossing the road when it's wet.
--
Martin

Nitram

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:59:49 -0500, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >I don't know your habits/tastes, but. . . .
    >One of the unfortunate things about Venice is that it is a short stop for
    >most people. Restaurants never see the same people twice. If, therfore, you
    >show up three day in a row, you are a regular and become one of the family.

I've found this to be true in most small restaurants in Italy. It's
one of the very nice things about visiting Italy.

    >As Barbara says, Venice is not a gourmet town, but she underrates it -- the
    >food is "good" -- not great or even memorable, but good and well made. The
    >fish, of course, is what it is famous for, and you won't get fish better
    >anywhere else.

So long as you don't focus on what's in the water, where the fish are
caught.
--
Martin

Roger \

"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote...
    | be careful crossing the road when it's wet.

Reportedly, some humorist telexed his publisher,
"Streets are flooded. Please advise." [R]

B Vaughan

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:59:49 -0500, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >I don't know your habits/tastes, but. . . .
    >One of the unfortunate things about Venice is that it is a short stop for
    >most people. Restaurants never see the same people twice. If, therfore, you
    >show up three day in a row, you are a regular and become one of the family.
    >As Barbara says, Venice is not a gourmet town, but she underrates it -- the
    >food is "good" -- not great or even memorable, but good and well made. The
    >fish, of course, is what it is famous for, and you won't get fish better
    >anywhere else.

I don't know about that; we have some pretty good fish restaurants in
Le Marche.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Nitram

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:08:40 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:59:49 -0500, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >>I don't know your habits/tastes, but. . . .
    >>One of the unfortunate things about Venice is that it is a short stop for
    >>most people. Restaurants never see the same people twice. If, therfore, you
    >>show up three day in a row, you are a regular and become one of the family.
    >>As Barbara says, Venice is not a gourmet town, but she underrates it -- the
    >>food is "good" -- not great or even memorable, but good and well made. The
    >>fish, of course, is what it is famous for, and you won't get fish better
    >>anywhere else.
    >I don't know about that; we have some pretty good fish restaurants in
    >Le Marche.

and Tim gets fresh fish from ... where was it Tim?
--
Martin

Bob Fusillo

Robert Benchley, telegram: " Streets filled with water. Please advise. "
Maybe the most widely quoted telegram in history.
rjf


"Roger (B)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "nitram" <[email protected]> wrote...
    > | be careful crossing the road when it's wet.
    > Reportedly, some humorist telexed his publisher,
    > "Streets are flooded. Please advise." [R]

Nitram

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:40:01 -0500, "Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Robert Benchley, telegram: " Streets filled with water. Please advise. "
    >Maybe the most widely quoted telegram in history.

and

"While attending the premiere of "The Squall" in 1926, Robert Benchley
- greatly irritated by the play's extensive use of pidgin English -
whispered to his wife that if he heard one more word of it he was
going to leave. Shortly thereafter, a gypsy girl on stage prostrated
herself at the feet of another character and said: "Me Nubi. Nubi good
girl. Me stay." "Me Bobby," Benchley declared, rising to his feet.
"Bobby bad boy. Me go." And he did!"
--
Martin

Bob Fusillo

"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    > some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    > feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    > to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.


The weather will be cold and wet. ( Predicting below freezing for tonight).
Nice for hurrying about. Trains to Padova and Verona run often -- many
people commute to work in Venice from there. But if you go to either, you
really want to spnd much of a day there -- which lessens your time in
Venice. If you have never been to Venice before there will be plenty to do
the hinterlands ( pace Padovans!). Trieste trains are less frequent, & a
longer trip. Can be done in a rushed day, but it is less attractive than Pad
or Ver.
Don't try to do too much in a few days -- much of the pleasure of a place
like Venice is becoming familiar with it.
rjf

Bob Fusillo

"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    > some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    > feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    > to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.

If you really want to be whimmish, get up early, take the two hour train to
Bologna, stroll about, have lunch ( Bologna is the reputed foodie capital of
Italy). Pick up some nibbles for the train ride back to Venice.

Padraig Breathnach

"Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    >> some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    >> feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    >> to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
    >If you really want to be whimmish, get up early, take the two hour train to
    >Bologna, stroll about, have lunch ( Bologna is the reputed foodie capital of
    >Italy). Pick up some nibbles for the train ride back to Venice.
Did Bologna last year! Considered a side trip to Venice, but was
advised that it was too far to be worth the trouble.

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PB
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Padraig Breathnach

"Bob Fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> I note that Padova and Verona are in striking distance, and I have
    >> some curiosity about Trieste. But I don't know how engaged we will
    >> feel in Venice, or what the weather will be like, how easy it might be
    >> to get anywhere, or, most of all, what whim might dictate.
    >The weather will be cold and wet. ( Predicting below freezing for tonight).
    >Nice for hurrying about. Trains to Padova and Verona run often -- many
    >people commute to work in Venice from there. But if you go to either, you
    >really want to spnd much of a day there -- which lessens your time in
    >Venice. If you have never been to Venice before there will be plenty to do
    >the hinterlands ( pace Padovans!). Trieste trains are less frequent, & a
    >longer trip. Can be done in a rushed day, but it is less attractive than Pad
    >or Ver.
    >Don't try to do too much in a few days -- much of the pleasure of a place
    >like Venice is becoming familiar with it.

Okay, Trieste is on the back burner.

Five nights in Venice give us four-and-a-half days for exploring. My
guess is that it's about 50-50 that we'll make a side trip.

--
PB
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