The upcoming French elections-understanding them
Mar 10th 2004, 10:54 pm
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The upcoming French elections-understanding them
The elections occur in two "tours" towards the end of March.
They are separated by one week. The first tour will chose
those who will run the 2nd time.
The vote is not for people but for parties. And the list of
people in those parties who.
This morning gives a poll on the Isle de France, not on all of France
The poll for first tour is
Socialist 27%
UMP (right) 20%
UDF (right) 19%
Le Pen (far right) 13%
Trotsky (left) 8%
Communists (left) 7%
Greens 5%
If the right was grouped they would get 50%
of the vote.
France is pretty much split down the middle
as in the US although there is no culture war
going on (abortion and homosexual issues
are not a big issue).
From this group, those having over 10% will vote
in the 2nd tour. The party on the right which gets
the least votes will drop out in order to give more
power to the other right
The second tours poll indicates a 45-47% vote for the
Socialist, 44-43% for the traditional right
an 10% for the far right. Some drop out occurs
because the ultras on the left and right will not
vote. Some of the Le Pen voters will vote
the traditional right the second time around.
Traditionally, the lst round is a vote of the heart,
the second round much less so. Having two rounds
generally has a good social purpose, everybody
has their say. However, it did not work well in
the last Presidential elections in which the
2nd round was only the top two candidates,
Le Pen having beaten out Jospin, whose possible
supporters on the first round were voting their
heart!
There are more than just 7 parties running, French
1st tours have a lot of small groups.
For instance, the MNR is a splitter group spun
off of Le Pen`s FN has 2% of the vote, this
group would vote with Le Pen if the MNR were
not around.
Today`s mail brought us a package of stuff
from the local mayor's office with the
"notices" of each party.
Next, around town in front of each voting
place are place a number of stands for political
posters of each group to be placed.
Everybody gets equal space at these and
in the stuff distributed in the mails.
On TV everybody gets equal time.
For this kind of thing big donations are not
necessary, the various movements tend to be
individually grass roots, no fat cats
visibly around. The roll of money in
French politics comes in somewhere else
but not in this kind of situation.
Earl
They are separated by one week. The first tour will chose
those who will run the 2nd time.
The vote is not for people but for parties. And the list of
people in those parties who.
This morning gives a poll on the Isle de France, not on all of France
The poll for first tour is
Socialist 27%
UMP (right) 20%
UDF (right) 19%
Le Pen (far right) 13%
Trotsky (left) 8%
Communists (left) 7%
Greens 5%
If the right was grouped they would get 50%
of the vote.
France is pretty much split down the middle
as in the US although there is no culture war
going on (abortion and homosexual issues
are not a big issue).
From this group, those having over 10% will vote
in the 2nd tour. The party on the right which gets
the least votes will drop out in order to give more
power to the other right
The second tours poll indicates a 45-47% vote for the
Socialist, 44-43% for the traditional right
an 10% for the far right. Some drop out occurs
because the ultras on the left and right will not
vote. Some of the Le Pen voters will vote
the traditional right the second time around.
Traditionally, the lst round is a vote of the heart,
the second round much less so. Having two rounds
generally has a good social purpose, everybody
has their say. However, it did not work well in
the last Presidential elections in which the
2nd round was only the top two candidates,
Le Pen having beaten out Jospin, whose possible
supporters on the first round were voting their
heart!
There are more than just 7 parties running, French
1st tours have a lot of small groups.
For instance, the MNR is a splitter group spun
off of Le Pen`s FN has 2% of the vote, this
group would vote with Le Pen if the MNR were
not around.
Today`s mail brought us a package of stuff
from the local mayor's office with the
"notices" of each party.
Next, around town in front of each voting
place are place a number of stands for political
posters of each group to be placed.
Everybody gets equal space at these and
in the stuff distributed in the mails.
On TV everybody gets equal time.
For this kind of thing big donations are not
necessary, the various movements tend to be
individually grass roots, no fat cats
visibly around. The roll of money in
French politics comes in somewhere else
but not in this kind of situation.
Earl
Mar 11th 2004, 5:48 am
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Re: The upcoming French elections-understanding them
Do these polls include the cemeteries?
--
wf.
Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> The elections occur in two "tours" towards the end of March.
>
> They are separated by one week. The first tour will chose
> those who will run the 2nd time.
>
> The vote is not for people but for parties. And the list of
> people in those parties who.
>
> This morning gives a poll on the Isle de France, not on all of France
>
> The poll for first tour is
<<snip>>
--
wf.
Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> The elections occur in two "tours" towards the end of March.
>
> They are separated by one week. The first tour will chose
> those who will run the 2nd time.
>
> The vote is not for people but for parties. And the list of
> people in those parties who.
>
> This morning gives a poll on the Isle de France, not on all of France
>
> The poll for first tour is
<<snip>>
Mar 11th 2004, 5:40 pm
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Re: The upcoming French elections-understanding them
Earl,
who is running the UMP now that Juppe has been convicted? I am only
assuming he stepped down (or was shown the way out) from his position as
leader of the Party. I haven't seen anything about it on Le Journal. I
can only imagine Raffarin and Sarkosy (did I finally spell his name
right?) fighting over it...
Have you seen any evidence that Juppe's conviction has had any impact on
the upcoming regional elections?
/david
who is running the UMP now that Juppe has been convicted? I am only
assuming he stepped down (or was shown the way out) from his position as
leader of the Party. I haven't seen anything about it on Le Journal. I
can only imagine Raffarin and Sarkosy (did I finally spell his name
right?) fighting over it...
Have you seen any evidence that Juppe's conviction has had any impact on
the upcoming regional elections?
/david
