Tim

I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
kind.

My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
"pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
through her T-Mobile account.

I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
do something to "unlock" it, etc.

Thanks for your help.


.

nitram

On 1 Sep 2004 10:51:45 -0700, [email protected] (Tim) wrote:

    >I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    >kind.
    >My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    >"pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    >past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    >the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    >through her T-Mobile account.
    >I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    >phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    >arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    >do something to "unlock" it, etc.

You'll have to pay somebody to unlock it.

S Viemeister

[email protected] wrote:
    >
    > On 1 Sep 2004 10:51:45 -0700, [email protected] (Tim) wrote:
    >
    > >I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    > >kind.
    > >
    > >My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    > >"pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    > >past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    > >the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    > >through her T-Mobile account.
    > >
    > >I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    > >phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    > >arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    > >do something to "unlock" it, etc.
    >
    > You'll have to pay somebody to unlock it.

It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock yourself
(free!).

Tim

"S Viemeister" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > > On 1 Sep 2004 10:51:45 -0700, [email protected] (Tim) wrote:
    > >
    > > >I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    > > >kind.
    > > >
    > > >My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    > > >"pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    > > >past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    > > >the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    > > >through her T-Mobile account.
    > > >
    > > >I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    > > >phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    > > >arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    > > >do something to "unlock" it, etc.
    > >
    > > You'll have to pay somebody to unlock it.
    > It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock yourself
    > (free!).

so that's why they are sooooo popular!

I'll tell my marketing people that this is the way we can sell
more phones.

I'm sure they'll just love it

tim

Jcoulter

[email protected] (Tim) wrote in
news:[email protected] m:

    > I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    > kind.
    >
    > My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    > "pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    > past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    > the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    > through her T-Mobile account.
    >
    > I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    > phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    > arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    > do something to "unlock" it, etc.
    >
    > Thanks for your help.
    >
    >
    > .
    >

i just went on line with a search Sagem UNlaock MYX-2 and it looks like
your daughter's phone requries a cable hook up to unlock. My NEC did too,
but I had the cable as a part of the synch program for the the phone and my
database.

Alec

"jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] (Tim) wrote in
    > news:[email protected] m:
    > > I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    > > kind.
    > >
    > > My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    > > "pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    > > past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    > > the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    > > through her T-Mobile account.
    > >
    > > I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    > > phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    > > arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    > > do something to "unlock" it, etc.
    > >
    > > Thanks for your help.
    > >
    > >
    > > .
    > >
    > i just went on line with a search Sagem UNlaock MYX-2 and it looks like
    > your daughter's phone requries a cable hook up to unlock. My NEC did too,
    > but I had the cable as a part of the synch program for the the phone and
my
    > database.
Get someone else with the right equipment and knowledge to unlock the Sagem
phone. You need know-how and experience to unlock phones using data lead and
software. If you put the wrong code more than a few times, the phone will
stop working and will need its firmware reflashed at a service center. There
may be a phone store that can unlock it in US, and certainly in Italy at an
independent dealer (not franchised to a particular network). About 15 euro.

Alec

Alex2k

i think that unlockign phones is not something common in italy. That's
because GSM phones sold in italy are never locked. (exception being the new
UMTS phones by 3)
"Alec" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> [email protected] (Tim) wrote in
    >> news:[email protected] m:
    >> > I am confused after reading many many posts to this group. Please be
    >> > kind.
    >> >
    >> > My daughter purchased a Sagem MYX-2 phone on a T-Mobile
    >> > "pay-as-you-go" plan while she was attending college in the UK this
    >> > past spring semester. The phone had a UK-based number. She also used
    >> > the phone successfully in Switzerland, Germany, France and Italy
    >> > through her T-Mobile account.
    >> >
    >> > I am traveling to Italy in a few weeks, and would like to take this
    >> > phone with me and buy a cheap, non-T-Mobile pre-paid sim card when I
    >> > arrive. Will this phone work as-is with such a card, or do I need to
    >> > do something to "unlock" it, etc.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for your help.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > .
    >> >
    >> i just went on line with a search Sagem UNlaock MYX-2 and it looks like
    >> your daughter's phone requries a cable hook up to unlock. My NEC did too,
    >> but I had the cable as a part of the synch program for the the phone and
    > my
    >> database.
    > Get someone else with the right equipment and knowledge to unlock the
    > Sagem
    > phone. You need know-how and experience to unlock phones using data lead
    > and
    > software. If you put the wrong code more than a few times, the phone will
    > stop working and will need its firmware reflashed at a service center.
    > There
    > may be a phone store that can unlock it in US, and certainly in Italy at
    > an
    > independent dealer (not franchised to a particular network). About 15
    > euro.
    > Alec
    >

Wolfgang Schwanke

"tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    >> It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock
    >> yourself (free!).
    >
    > so that's why they are sooooo popular!
    >
    > I'll tell my marketing people that this is the way we can sell
    > more phones.

No make them uglier if Nokia is your role model.

Regards

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Tim

"Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    > >> It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock
    > >> yourself (free!).
    > >
    > > so that's why they are sooooo popular!
    > >
    > > I'll tell my marketing people that this is the way we can sell
    > > more phones.
    > No make them uglier if Nokia is your role model.

not, it's the market leader that needs to be catched

why is this?

are they prettier (no)
are they 'better' (probably not, what extra features does any phone have)
is their MMI eaiser (apparently it's a bitch, until you get used to it)
are they cheaper (how!, You can have almost any phone you want
for 1 Euro).

so what is it,

it can only be marketing,

but why?

or is it because they can be hacked?

tim

Tim

"tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > "tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > > news:[email protected]:
    > >
    > > >> It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock
    > > >> yourself (free!).
    > > >
    > > > so that's why they are sooooo popular!
    > > >
    > > > I'll tell my marketing people that this is the way we can sell
    > > > more phones.
    > >
    > > No make them uglier if Nokia is your role model.
    > not, it's the market leader that needs to be catched

Um, I've been away from home too long.
that's 'caught'!

tim

Emilia

"tim" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ch7rdd$vgi$05$1
@news.t-online.com:

    >
    >
    > "Wolfgang Schwanke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> news:[email protected]:
    >> >> It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock
    >> >> yourself (free!).
    >> >
    >> > so that's why they are sooooo popular!
    >> >
    >> > I'll tell my marketing people that this is the way we can sell
    >> > more phones.
    >> No make them uglier if Nokia is your role model.
    >
    > not, it's the market leader that needs to be catched
    >
    > why is this?
    >
    > are they prettier (no)
    > are they 'better' (probably not, what extra features does any phone
have)

I've never had a problem with my Nokias and I think I've had three or
four of them. My friends have Erikson, Motorola & Sony (in particulary
and everyone has had problems. This is just my observation, but I'm quite
happy with my Nokia. I had Siemens and Motorola as well and got rid of
them real quick. I prefer Nokia. Although I agree that they are getting
uglier and others are doing better designs. But I'm not sure I want to
risk changing to another even if it is better looking.

    > is their MMI eaiser (apparently it's a bitch, until you get used to it)

Are you talking about thier menus etc? I find that Nokia has the easiest
and most logical menus. I've tried other phones and they are so
uninutiative and horrible.


    > are they cheaper (how!, You can have almost any phone you want
    > for 1 Euro).
    >
    > so what is it,
    >
    > it can only be marketing,
    >
    > but why?
    >
    > or is it because they can be hacked?

I've never had a locked phone. Belgium & Switzerland never locked their
phones. (don't know if Belgium is locking them now or not)

nitram

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:29:34 -0400, S Viemeister
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock yourself
    >(free!).

Tell us more :-)

S Viemeister

[email protected] wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:29:34 -0400, S Viemeister
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >It's a shame it's not a Nokia - most of those are easy to unlock yourself
    > >(free!).
    >
    > Tell us more :-)

There are a number of good places to go for information on unlocking - I've
found this one to be very good.

<http://www.uniquephones.com/forums/>

Tim

"Emilia" <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in message
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    > "tim" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ch7rdd$vgi$05$1
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    > > is their MMI eaiser (apparently it's a bitch, until you get used to it)
    > Are you talking about thier menus etc?
Yes. I've no personal experience. My friend though it
a pig and wanted rid of it.

>I find that Nokia has the easiest
    > and most logical menus. I've tried other phones and they are so
    > uninutiative and horrible.
    > > are they cheaper (how!, You can have almost any phone you want
    > > for 1 Euro).
    > >
    > > so what is it,
    > >
    > > it can only be marketing,
    > >
    > > but why?
    > >
    > > or is it because they can be hacked?
    > I've never had a locked phone. Belgium & Switzerland never locked their
    > phones. (don't know if Belgium is locking them now or not)

All PAYG are locked. The economics don't work if they're not.

tim

Emilia

"tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    >
    > "Emilia" <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "tim" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> news:ch7rdd$vgi$05$1 @news.t-online.com:
    >
    >
    >> > is their MMI eaiser (apparently it's a bitch, until you get used to
    >> > it)
    >> Are you talking about thier menus etc?

    > Yes. I've no personal experience. My friend though it
    > a pig and wanted rid of it.

Must just be what you are used to. I think they are more "user friendly".
He can send it to me. I'll adopt homeless Nokias.