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Dave Frightens Me Aug 22nd 2006 12:09 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:43:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:38:43 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:49:58 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>>Padraig Breathnach writes:
    >>>> No. All you need is people capable of understanding it, and a
    >>>> reasonable repository of instances of authentic usage.
    >>>And how does that provide special insight into the human psyche?
    >>A Dutch team discovered a language somewhere in Asia I think where it
    >>was impossible to mislead someone without directly lying, otherwise
    >>the language would not be correct.
    >>I think that could provide some special insight.
    >I'm amazed the team could cope with the concept. Are you sure they
    >weren't lying?

Apparently they discovered this aspect when trying to do just that!
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Martin Aug 22nd 2006 12:29 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:09:25 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:43:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:38:43 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:49:58 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>>Padraig Breathnach writes:
    >>>>> No. All you need is people capable of understanding it, and a
    >>>>> reasonable repository of instances of authentic usage.
    >>>>And how does that provide special insight into the human psyche?
    >>>A Dutch team discovered a language somewhere in Asia I think where it
    >>>was impossible to mislead someone without directly lying, otherwise
    >>>the language would not be correct.
    >>>I think that could provide some special insight.
    >>I'm amazed the team could cope with the concept. Are you sure they
    >>weren't lying?
    >Apparently they discovered this aspect when trying to do just that!

How do we know that the whole thing isn't a lie? Was the language
ALGOL 60?
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Martin

A Human Being Aug 22nd 2006 1:03 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
Mxsmanic wrote:
    > Martin writes:
    > > Something you have tried?
    > I don't believe in unconditionally preserving everything forever. I'm
    > even beginning to have my doubts about French.

Why ?


    >
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    > Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

*~* Magda *~* Aug 22nd 2006 1:19 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On 22 Aug 2006 06:03:56 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "A Human Being"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
... Mxsmanic wrote:
... > Martin writes:
... >
... > > Something you have tried?
... >
... > I don't believe in unconditionally preserving everything forever. I'm
... > even beginning to have my doubts about French.
...
... Why ?

Talking to yourself again?

Dave Frightens Me Aug 22nd 2006 2:08 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:29:24 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:09:25 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:43:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:38:43 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:49:58 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>>Padraig Breathnach writes:
    >>>>>> No. All you need is people capable of understanding it, and a
    >>>>>> reasonable repository of instances of authentic usage.
    >>>>>And how does that provide special insight into the human psyche?
    >>>>A Dutch team discovered a language somewhere in Asia I think where it
    >>>>was impossible to mislead someone without directly lying, otherwise
    >>>>the language would not be correct.
    >>>>I think that could provide some special insight.
    >>>I'm amazed the team could cope with the concept. Are you sure they
    >>>weren't lying?
    >>Apparently they discovered this aspect when trying to do just that!
    >How do we know that the whole thing isn't a lie?

Cynical old bugger!
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JohnT Aug 22nd 2006 2:11 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
"A Human Being" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ps.com...
    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Martin writes:
    >> > Something you have tried?
    >> I don't believe in unconditionally preserving everything forever. I'm
    >> even beginning to have my doubts about French.
    > Why ?

Why don't you both go back to America?

You will only need one ticket.

JohnT

+*~* Mazda *~*+ Aug 22nd 2006 2:40 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:19:21 +0200, *~* Magda *~* <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 22 Aug 2006 06:03:56 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "A Human Being"
    ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
    > ...
    > ... Mxsmanic wrote:
    > ... > Martin writes:
    > ... >
    > ... > > Something you have tried?
    > ... >
    > ... > I don't believe in unconditionally preserving everything forever. I'm
    > ... > even beginning to have my doubts about French.
    > ...
    > ... Why ?
    >Talking to yourself again?

Or just pondering life's slings and blows.

Gottle of geer!

Martin Aug 22nd 2006 2:41 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:11:14 +0100, "JohnT"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"A Human Being" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] ups.com...
    >> Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> Martin writes:
    >>> > Something you have tried?
    >>> I don't believe in unconditionally preserving everything forever. I'm
    >>> even beginning to have my doubts about French.
    >> Why ?
    >Why don't you both go back to America?
    >You will only need one ticket.

The dummy can go in the checked in luggage.
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Martin

Martin Aug 22nd 2006 2:45 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:08:19 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    >On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:29:24 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:09:25 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:43:35 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:38:43 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
    >>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
    >>>>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:49:58 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>Padraig Breathnach writes:
    >>>>>>> No. All you need is people capable of understanding it, and a
    >>>>>>> reasonable repository of instances of authentic usage.
    >>>>>>And how does that provide special insight into the human psyche?
    >>>>>A Dutch team discovered a language somewhere in Asia I think where it
    >>>>>was impossible to mislead someone without directly lying, otherwise
    >>>>>the language would not be correct.
    >>>>>I think that could provide some special insight.
    >>>>I'm amazed the team could cope with the concept. Are you sure they
    >>>>weren't lying?
    >>>Apparently they discovered this aspect when trying to do just that!
    >>How do we know that the whole thing isn't a lie?
    >Cynical old bugger!

I've lived here long enough to know.
It doesn't take long does it, Jeremy?
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Martin

Jordi Aug 22nd 2006 3:55 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
Padraig Breathnach wrote:
    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >The real purpose of efforts to preserve dialects and languages is to
    > >obtain money.
    > For some who seek to make money out of it.
    > For the rest of us, there are other, better, reasons.

Being a speaker of a "minority" or "endangered" language sometimes
seems the only way to appreciate them beyond their practical use.


J.

Mxsmanic Aug 22nd 2006 4:53 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
A Human Being writes:

    > Why ?

The French are gradually abandoning their language and culture. If
they don't want it, who am I to suggest that it be preserved?

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Martin Aug 22nd 2006 4:56 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:53:21 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >who am I?

A very good question. Who are you?
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Martin

A Human Being Aug 22nd 2006 7:15 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
Mxsmanic wrote:
    > A Human Being writes:
    > > Why ?
    > The French are gradually abandoning their language and culture.

What makes you think they are ?


    > If they don't want it, who am I to suggest that it be preserved?
    >
    > --
    > Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

*~* Magda *~* Aug 22nd 2006 7:20 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On 22 Aug 2006 12:15:14 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "A Human Being"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
... Mxsmanic wrote:
... > A Human Being writes:
... >
... > > Why ?
... >
... > The French are gradually abandoning their language and culture.
...
... What makes you think they are ?

Dog helps us, now they are arguing with each other...

Ma rtin Aug 22nd 2006 7:50 am

Re: Unesco: Languages under threat
 
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:20:36 +0200, *~* Magda *~* <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >On 22 Aug 2006 12:15:14 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "A Human Being"
    ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
    > ...
    > ... Mxsmanic wrote:
    > ... > A Human Being writes:
    > ... >
    > ... > > Why ?
    > ... >
    > ... > The French are gradually abandoning their language and culture.
    > ...
    > ... What makes you think they are ?
    >Dog helps us, now they are arguing with each other...

ROFL
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Martin


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