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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 1:16 pm
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Go Fig
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    > Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > By Nigel Bunyan
    > (Filed: 23/08/2003)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    >
    > Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials after
    > failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    >
    > The hapless group had arrived at Heathrow Airport claiming to be en route to
    > the Mathew Street Festival in Liverpool, which celebrates the lives of the
    > Fab Four.
    >
    > But they had no idea who Yoko Ono was and thought that Ringo Starr had died.
    > They also struggled with a number of song titles. The Help! album raised
    > problems, with the group failing to name any of the songs it contains.
    >
    > Immigration officials promptly barred them from entry and told them they
    > would have to make the 5,700-mile flight home.
    >
    > Bill Heckle, who organised this weekend's festival for Cavern City Tours,
    > said yesterday that the new arrivals had been among a group of 72 Brazilians.
    >
    > He added: "Portuguese-speaking immigration officials asked them simple
    > questions about the Beatles, such as how many of them are still alive and
    > what songs they could name."
    >
    > Sue Lennox, of Cavern Club Tours, which has been organising the festival for
    > 10 years, said she and her colleagues were "very upset" by the expulsions.
    >
    > "We can understand the criteria, but these were mostly young men who had just
    > finished university," she said. "They weren't necessarily Beatles fans, but
    > they were music fans. I think their parents had paid for their tickets. We
    > understand there was a lady who knew their families personally, but she was
    > not allowed to speak up for them."
    >
    > Fabiana Carvalho, who helped organise the trip from the Cavern Club Brazil,
    > was angered by the decision to refuse entry to the six.
    >
    > "The way we were all treated was ridiculous and upsetting," he said. "The six
    > people not allowed into the country were young students and working people. I
    > know their parents. They were tourists, not illegal immigrants. They could
    > not speak English and were nervous, tired and stressed. The men at the
    > airport just looked at our faces and decided we should not be in the
    > country."
    >
    > Ms Carvalho said the entire party had been questioned for two hours. "They
    > played songs and asked us to name them. They actually made people sing
    > Beatles songs. Some of the young people don't know that much about the
    > Beatles. They are here to see the Brazilian bands and to travel." A Home
    > Office spokesman confirmed that six Brazilians were refused entry into the
    > country.
    >
    > She said: "We can't discuss individual cases but anyone trying to enter the
    > country must satisfy officers that they meet immigration rules. If they say
    > they are here for a particular event, officers will check this is really the
    > case."
    >
    > The rest of the Brazilian party were allowed in and have travelled to
    > Liverpool for the festival.

--

Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 3:00 pm
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Go Fig a dit dans rec.travel.europe :

    >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back

To where they once belonged ?

    

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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 3:44 pm
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:16:38 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    >> By Nigel Bunyan
    >> (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    >xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    >>
    >> Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials after
    >> failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.

I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.

(one free Fuller ESB to the first who spots the Beatles reference)


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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 5:05 pm
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charles Hawtrey) wrote:

    > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:16:38 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > >> By Nigel Bunyan
    > >> (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    > >
    > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    > >xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    > >>
    > >> Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials after
    > >> failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    >
    > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.

I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
the most serious of all of them.

jay
Fri, Aug 22, 2003
mailto:[email protected]



    >
    > (one free Fuller ESB to the first who spots the Beatles reference)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Fight the power: http://www.boycott-riaa.com/

--

Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 6:20 pm
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Mike O'Sullivan
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"Charles Hawtrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:16:38 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > >> By Nigel Bunyan
    > >> (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    > >
    > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    > >xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    > >>
    > >> Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials
after
    > >> failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.

Just say you're fleeing persecution in your own country, and have come for
unlimited medical care!
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 7:26 pm
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"Charles Hawtrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.
    > (one free Fuller ESB to the first who spots the Beatles reference)

Do you mean the audition for Decca that the Beatles failed?
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 7:45 pm
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"Elaine" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Charles Hawtrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.
    > >
    > > (one free Fuller ESB to the first who spots the Beatles reference)
    > Do you mean the audition for Decca that the Beatles failed?
No, I've just realised, it's the bit at the end of Let It Be when John says
something like "I hope we passed the audition"
Right???
 
Old Aug 22nd 2003, 11:01 pm
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Charles Hawtrey) wrote:
    >
    > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:16:38 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > > >> By Nigel Bunyan
    > > >> (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    > > >
    > > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    > > >xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    > > >>
    > > >> Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials after
    > > >> failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    > >
    > > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.
    >
    > I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
    > the most serious of all of them.

Out of interest, what's your nationality?

David

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Old Aug 22nd 2003, 11:24 pm
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A group of Cuban dancers coming to the Edinburgh festival were deported
after being refused work permits.
Derek.
"Go Fig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > > Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > > By Nigel Bunyan
    > > (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    > xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    > >
    > > Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials
after
    > > failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    > >
    > > The hapless group had arrived at Heathrow Airport claiming to be en
route to
    > > the Mathew Street Festival in Liverpool, which celebrates the lives of
the
    > > Fab Four.
    > >
    > > But they had no idea who Yoko Ono was and thought that Ringo Starr had
died.
    > > They also struggled with a number of song titles. The Help! album raised
    > > problems, with the group failing to name any of the songs it contains.
    > >
    > > Immigration officials promptly barred them from entry and told them they
    > > would have to make the 5,700-mile flight home.
    > >
    > > Bill Heckle, who organised this weekend's festival for Cavern City
Tours,
    > > said yesterday that the new arrivals had been among a group of 72
Brazilians.
    > >
    > > He added: "Portuguese-speaking immigration officials asked them simple
    > > questions about the Beatles, such as how many of them are still alive
and
    > > what songs they could name."
    > >
    > > Sue Lennox, of Cavern Club Tours, which has been organising the festival
for
    > > 10 years, said she and her colleagues were "very upset" by the
expulsions.
    > >
    > > "We can understand the criteria, but these were mostly young men who had
just
    > > finished university," she said. "They weren't necessarily Beatles fans,
but
    > > they were music fans. I think their parents had paid for their tickets.
We
    > > understand there was a lady who knew their families personally, but she
was
    > > not allowed to speak up for them."
    > >
    > > Fabiana Carvalho, who helped organise the trip from the Cavern Club
Brazil,
    > > was angered by the decision to refuse entry to the six.
    > >
    > > "The way we were all treated was ridiculous and upsetting," he said.
"The six
    > > people not allowed into the country were young students and working
people. I
    > > know their parents. They were tourists, not illegal immigrants. They
could
    > > not speak English and were nervous, tired and stressed. The men at the
    > > airport just looked at our faces and decided we should not be in the
    > > country."
    > >
    > > Ms Carvalho said the entire party had been questioned for two hours.
"They
    > > played songs and asked us to name them. They actually made people sing
    > > Beatles songs. Some of the young people don't know that much about the
    > > Beatles. They are here to see the Brazilian bands and to travel." A Home
    > > Office spokesman confirmed that six Brazilians were refused entry into
the
    > > country.
    > >
    > > She said: "We can't discuss individual cases but anyone trying to enter
the
    > > country must satisfy officers that they meet immigration rules. If they
say
    > > they are here for a particular event, officers will check this is really
the
    > > case."
    > >
    > > The rest of the Brazilian party were allowed in and have travelled to
    > > Liverpool for the festival.
    > --
    > Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
    > Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."
 
Old Aug 23rd 2003, 12:41 am
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In article
<1g05828.xu3bvyvrlk4wN%i_will_almost_never_read_th [email protected]>,
[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

    > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] (Charles Hawtrey) wrote:
    > >
    > > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:16:38 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >> Immigration officers tell Beatles-quiz Brazilians to get back
    > > > >> By Nigel Bunyan
    > > > >> (Filed: 23/08/2003)
    > > > >
    > > > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...08/23/ncusts23.
    > > > >xml&sSheet=/news/2003/08/23/ixhome.html
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Six Brazilians have been sent home by British immigration officials
    > > > >> after
    > > > >> failing an impromptu quiz about the Beatles.
    > > >
    > > > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.
    > >
    > > I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
    > > the most serious of all of them.
    >
    > Out of interest, what's your nationality?
    >
    > David


American.

jay
Sat, Aug 23, 2003
mailto:[email protected]

--

Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."
 
Old Aug 23rd 2003, 12:57 am
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David Horne
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article
    > <1g05828.xu3bvyvrlk4wN%i_will_almost_never_read_th [email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
    >
    > > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > > I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
    > > > the most serious of all of them.
    > >
    > > Out of interest, what's your nationality?
    > >
    > > David
    >
    >
    > American.

That's what I suspected. Couple of things. If you think UK officials are
serious, US officials can be terrifying! Also, I've heard (and I've
heard it too many times to think it's idle chatter) that some UK
officials take particular pleasure in grilling US citizens, and FWIW
white South Africans. That said, most people from the UK enter the US
with nothing but a smile from the official, and vice versa.

David

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Old Aug 23rd 2003, 1:02 am
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Derek F <[email protected]> wrote:

    > A group of Cuban dancers coming to the Edinburgh festival were deported
    > after being refused work permits.

That makes no sense- are you sure that's correct? You have to apply for
a work permit before entering the UK. You don't just turn up and ask for
one- and certainly not if you're a cuban dancer. You _can_ be deported
if you turn up with a permit, and the officials have reason to suspect
that they were illegally obtained etc., but if it's an official work
permit, _and_ is in order, there has to be very good reason indeed to
deport someone.

David

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Old Aug 23rd 2003, 2:56 am
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Tim
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"Elaine" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Charles Hawtrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > I'm leaving for Britain in a week, and hope I pass the audition.
    > >
    > > (one free Fuller ESB to the first who spots the Beatles reference)
    > Do you mean the audition for Decca that the Beatles failed?

Mustn't be too hard on decca. By all accounts the amateur beatles
were bloody awful.

tim


 
Old Aug 23rd 2003, 3:11 am
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:57:50 +0100, David Horne wrote:

    > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In article
    >> <1g05828.xu3bvyvrlk4wN%i_will_almost_never_read_th [email protected]>,
    >> [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
    >>
    >> > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > > I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
    >> > > the most serious of all of them.
    >> >
    >> > Out of interest, what's your nationality?
    >> >
    >> > David
    >>
    >>
    >> American.
    >
    > That's what I suspected. Couple of things. If you think UK officials are
    > serious, US officials can be terrifying!

I woulds say unpredictable; some appear to be quite illiterate. Once we
have been admitted until *june 31.*

At which point my wife gets all agitated, and have have to tell her, in a
language that the guy would'nt understand, to cool down and keep her mouth
shut, since the guy was clearly challenged enough as it was, and you would
not want to make him look that stupid, would you?

Once I was admitted on an I-94W which had expired the previous day. We
were just connecting in the US, and I believe that had run out of blank
forms. Anyway, YMMV.

 
Old Aug 23rd 2003, 3:41 am
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Nick
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US Immigration are ok, US Customs are not!


"David Horne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > In article
    > > <1g05828.xu3bvyvrlk4wN%i_will_almost_never_read_th [email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
    > >
    > > > Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > > I've been to many, many places and the UK officials take the 'interview'
    > > > > the most serious of all of them.
    > > >
    > > > Out of interest, what's your nationality?
    > > >
    > > > David
    > >
    > >
    > > American.
    > That's what I suspected. Couple of things. If you think UK officials are
    > serious, US officials can be terrifying! Also, I've heard (and I've
    > heard it too many times to think it's idle chatter) that some UK
    > officials take particular pleasure in grilling US citizens, and FWIW
    > white South Africans. That said, most people from the UK enter the US
    > with nothing but a smile from the official, and vice versa.
    > David
    > --
    > David Horne- www.davidhorne.co.uk
    > davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
 


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