Traveling in Train without reservations
Sep 1st 2004, 3:46 pm
#46
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
In article <[email protected]>, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:35:32 -0600, erilar wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:21:29 +0100, "Owain"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Steven" wrote
> >>>| I've read and heard reservations are not necesary for some
> >>>| trains.
> >>>| However, if you have no reservation, where do you seat?
> >>>| How do you know you are not seating in somebody's place?
> >>>
> >>>In the UK, there's a card slipped into a slot in the back of the seat
> >>>with
> >>>the sections of journey for which the seat is reserved printed on it. I
> >>>don't think we've got as advanced as little electronic displays yet.
> >>
> >> Tht's because UK trains are nowhere neaar as advanced as German
> >> ICEs.
> >>
> >
> > It's the ICEs where the system has not been working on any train I've
> > traveled on on my last two trips.
>
> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
Not in my experience, but I travel with a GerRail Pass when I'm there,
which gives me a little latitude. Traveling without a pass on a weekend
can mean changing seats a lot or standing, though.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:35:32 -0600, erilar wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:21:29 +0100, "Owain"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Steven" wrote
> >>>| I've read and heard reservations are not necesary for some
> >>>| trains.
> >>>| However, if you have no reservation, where do you seat?
> >>>| How do you know you are not seating in somebody's place?
> >>>
> >>>In the UK, there's a card slipped into a slot in the back of the seat
> >>>with
> >>>the sections of journey for which the seat is reserved printed on it. I
> >>>don't think we've got as advanced as little electronic displays yet.
> >>
> >> Tht's because UK trains are nowhere neaar as advanced as German
> >> ICEs.
> >>
> >
> > It's the ICEs where the system has not been working on any train I've
> > traveled on on my last two trips.
>
> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
Not in my experience, but I travel with a GerRail Pass when I'm there,
which gives me a little latitude. Traveling without a pass on a weekend
can mean changing seats a lot or standing, though.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Sep 1st 2004, 3:49 pm
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
In article <[email protected]>, Martin Bienwald
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Lennart Petersen:
> > erilar:
> >> Hatunen:
>
> >> > The German ICEs (some of them anyway) have little electronic
> >> > signs above the seats.
>
> >> Which usually tell you the seat MIGHT be reserved and nothing else.
>
> > Not at all. It tells you if the particular seat is reserved and between
> > which stations there's a reservation made.
>
> Both true - usually the seats in one car are marked "might be reserved"
> to allow for last minute reservations. On other cars, they show the
> stations
> between which the seat is reserved (or nothing for an unreserved seat).
I never found a single one with the electronic signs showing any
information in the last 3-4 years, and I rode quite a few trains.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Lennart Petersen:
> > erilar:
> >> Hatunen:
>
> >> > The German ICEs (some of them anyway) have little electronic
> >> > signs above the seats.
>
> >> Which usually tell you the seat MIGHT be reserved and nothing else.
>
> > Not at all. It tells you if the particular seat is reserved and between
> > which stations there's a reservation made.
>
> Both true - usually the seats in one car are marked "might be reserved"
> to allow for last minute reservations. On other cars, they show the
> stations
> between which the seat is reserved (or nothing for an unreserved seat).
I never found a single one with the electronic signs showing any
information in the last 3-4 years, and I rode quite a few trains.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Sep 1st 2004, 8:04 pm
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:28:09 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>>>> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
>>> No, they aren't.
>> They used to be. But it's been a number of years since I rode one.
>> --
>> Tim C.
> No, they have never been.
> Exception was a special connection with meal service.
> I've travelled them from their start and mostly without a reservation.
> Only occasionally I've travelled with a reservation which have never been
> compulsory.
> Typically resulting in standing passengers in overcrowded trains in peak
> travel time.
> A supplement have been needed in connection with some tickets not valid for
> ICE such as Interrail.
I've been on them to Hamburg from Frankfurt a couple of times and had to
reserve - I don't know when the Sprint started, maybe it was one of those,
I'm sure it was an ICE 1 (before Eschede).
--
Tim C.
> "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>>>> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
>>> No, they aren't.
>> They used to be. But it's been a number of years since I rode one.
>> --
>> Tim C.
> No, they have never been.
> Exception was a special connection with meal service.
> I've travelled them from their start and mostly without a reservation.
> Only occasionally I've travelled with a reservation which have never been
> compulsory.
> Typically resulting in standing passengers in overcrowded trains in peak
> travel time.
> A supplement have been needed in connection with some tickets not valid for
> ICE such as Interrail.
I've been on them to Hamburg from Frankfurt a couple of times and had to
reserve - I don't know when the Sprint started, maybe it was one of those,
I'm sure it was an ICE 1 (before Eschede).
--
Tim C.
Sep 1st 2004, 9:30 pm
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
erilar schrieb:
> I never found a single one with the electronic signs showing any
> information in the last 3-4 years, and I rode quite a few trains.
I saw quite a lot of them actually working over the last months. So you
probably just had bad luck with them ...
... Martin
> I never found a single one with the electronic signs showing any
> information in the last 3-4 years, and I rode quite a few trains.
I saw quite a lot of them actually working over the last months. So you
probably just had bad luck with them ...
... Martin
Sep 1st 2004, 9:36 pm
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
Tim Challenger schrieb:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:47:38 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
>> Tim Challenger:
>>> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
>> No, they aren't.
> They used to be. But it's been a number of years since I rode one.
They never were (with the exception of few "Sprinter" trains and the
"pre-opening" Cologne - Frankfurt service in 2002).
You could get a free reservation with an ICE ticket until about 1997,
but you were always free to take another train or make no reservation
at all.
... Martin
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:47:38 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
>> Tim Challenger:
>>> ICEs are reservation only aren't they?
>> No, they aren't.
> They used to be. But it's been a number of years since I rode one.
They never were (with the exception of few "Sprinter" trains and the
"pre-opening" Cologne - Frankfurt service in 2002).
You could get a free reservation with an ICE ticket until about 1997,
but you were always free to take another train or make no reservation
at all.
... Martin
Sep 2nd 2004, 9:21 am
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Re: Traveling in Train without reservations
In article <[email protected]>,
erilar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Traveling without a pass on a weekend
> can mean changing seats a lot or standing, though.
That does look weird 8-) I meant without a reservation.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
erilar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Traveling without a pass on a weekend
> can mean changing seats a lot or standing, though.
That does look weird 8-) I meant without a reservation.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument
is that reason doesn't count. Isaac Asimov
Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
