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Old Jan 4th 2006, 1:07 am
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People
I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.

I have a few questions for the experienced:
1. Is this the right time to travel? Ireland would be pretty cold, no?
2. Most of my travelmates are students, so they would like to live in
cheap accos. Has anyone lived in youth hostels in Ireland?
3. Any specifc place that you people recommend while in Ireland?
4. People in some cultures open up their houses to tourists so that
they can absorb the culture of other countries - is this something the
Irish do?

Any other hints will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Harsh
 
Old Jan 4th 2006, 7:44 am
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"Harsh" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >People
    >I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.
    >I have a few questions for the experienced:
    >1. Is this the right time to travel? Ireland would be pretty cold, no?
By, say, March, I would say cool rather than cold. We will still be
wearing our winter woollies, but might open the top button. A visitor
is more likely to be vexed by rain than by cold.

    >2. Most of my travelmates are students, so they would like to live in
    >cheap accos. Has anyone lived in youth hostels in Ireland?
Not I, but there are plenty of them, and most are good.

    >3. Any specifc place that you people recommend while in Ireland?
That depends on what you like doing. At that time of year, even if I
wanted scenery, I would base myself in a city of large town so that I
would have evening and bad-weather opportunities. Galway, Cork, and
Dublin all have considerable appeal for young travellers.

    >4. People in some cultures open up their houses to tourists so that
    >they can absorb the culture of other countries - is this something the
    >Irish do?
The most usual way is through B&B houses, but getting a worthwhile
taste of Irish life is not assured: it varies enormously with the
proprietor.

    >Any other hints will be highly appreciated.
Tell us more about what activities appeal to you.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 1:09 pm
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Harsh wrote:
    > People
    > I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.
    > I have a few questions for the experienced:
    > 1. Is this the right time to travel? Ireland would be pretty cold, no?

Without know from whence you come, it's a bit tough to say.
If let's say you're from the US and south of the Mason Dixon,
yeah, yer a gonna be cold. Dern cold actually. If you are
from more northern climes, especially in the midwest/plains
states, its gonna be early spring. Hope ya like a light drizzle.
If you are from England or northern Europe, you'll probably
feel right at home. (whether that is a good thing or not is
another story).

    > 2. Most of my travelmates are students, so they would like to live in
    > cheap accos. Has anyone lived in youth hostels in Ireland?

Personally? No. They have them and they are quite popular.
    >From descriptions, they sound a bit like a cross between
summer camp and a college dorm.

    > 3. Any specifc place that you people recommend while in Ireland?

Alot of them. I usually push for going to Cashel since much of
early christian irish history revolves a bit around there. Galway
is another favorite, and seems popular with the younger crowd.
The Cliffs of Moher are beautiful, but might not be worth the effort
to get there unless it's on the way to someplace else. The whole
Mayo/Galway area is gorgeous but unless you wanna hike or
drive, you probably won't get to see it. You should really probably
at least "see" Dublin.

    > 4. People in some cultures open up their houses to tourists so that
    > they can absorb the culture of other countries - is this something the
    > Irish do?

Probably not without some fairly advance planning. There are B&B's
of course, but mostly you won't see much of the family. You'd have
a better chance with some sort of organized tour that might arrange
something of this kind of evening.

    > Any other hints will be highly appreciated.

Hope you like pubs. Especially in smaller to moderate size
towns, it is the center of life in many ways on the weekend. If
you are looking to absorb some culture, you can probably come
closest one pint at a time. But hurry, my impression is that
this is changing fast. I've had good conversations in pubs in
Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
much about where you're from as you wanna talk about
where you are.
 
Old Jan 4th 2006, 1:29 pm
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    > People in some cultures open up their houses to tourists so that
    > they can absorb the culture of other countries - is this something
    > the Irish do?

Think. A large proportion of Americans are of recent Irish descent
and hence have a culture which is substantially Irish. Do *they* do
that?

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 1:40 pm
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Harsh wrote:
    >> People
    >> I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.
    >> Any other hints will be highly appreciated.
    > Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    > usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    > 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    > see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as

alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
other pub in the world.

The last poster seems to be describing a stereotype that expired 50
years ago.
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Old Jan 4th 2006, 2:20 pm
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Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    >> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    >> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    >> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    >alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    >other pub in the world.
The wise path is somewhere between the two.

    >The last poster seems to be describing a stereotype that expired 50
    >years ago.
Like everywhere else, you find people in Ireland whose mindset seems
to have been formed 50 years ago. Some of those people are in their
twenties.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 2:20 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Padraig Breathnach) wrote:

    > *From:* Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:20:02 +0000
    >
    > Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected]
    > <[email protected]:
    >
    > >> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    > >> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    > >> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    > >> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    > >
    > >alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    > >other pub in the world.
    > >
    > The wise path is somewhere between the two.
    >

It's reasonably good advice (anywhere, not just in Ireland) not to talk
too passionately about politics or religion to someone you /don't know/, I
think.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 3:07 pm
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[email protected] wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > (Padraig Breathnach) wrote:
    > > *From:* Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]>
    > > *Date:* Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:20:02 +0000
    > >
    > > Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected]
    > > <[email protected]:
    > >
    > > >> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    > > >> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    > > >> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    > > >> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    > > >
    > > >alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    > > >other pub in the world.
    > > >
    > > The wise path is somewhere between the two.
    > >
    > It's reasonably good advice (anywhere, not just in Ireland) not to talk
    > too passionately about politics or religion to someone you /don't know/, I
    > think.


Had a friendly discussion with an Englishman in a pub. We talked
politics. He talked about his PM, I talked about my president. Worked
out great. (I taught him "Slick Willy" he taught me "Phoney Blair")
Sorta like the rule that I can deride my brother with you, but
you can't deride my brother with me.
 
Old Jan 4th 2006, 3:14 pm
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[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > Had a friendly discussion with an Englishman in a pub. We talked
    > politics. He talked about his PM, I talked about my president. Worked
    > out great. (I taught him "Slick Willy" he taught me "Phoney Blair")
    > Sorta like the rule that I can deride my brother with you, but
    > you can't deride my brother with me.

Oh, I don't know- depends on the President or PM maybe. I was at many a
lunch and party in the last week in Boston where I made my derisive (not
that there's anything funny about it) opinions of Bush pretty clear,
unsolicited, and the only thing I encountered was complete agreement.
Then again, my circle of friends and for that matter Boston isn't
indicative of America...

FWIW, they asked me what I thought of Blair, and I said I didn't have
much time for him either.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 5:05 pm
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy wrote:
    > [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    > []
    > > Had a friendly discussion with an Englishman in a pub. We talked
    > > politics. He talked about his PM, I talked about my president. Worked
    > > out great. (I taught him "Slick Willy" he taught me "Phoney Blair")
    > > Sorta like the rule that I can deride my brother with you, but
    > > you can't deride my brother with me.
    > Oh, I don't know- depends on the President or PM maybe. I was at many a
    > lunch and party in the last week in Boston where I made my derisive (not
    > that there's anything funny about it) opinions of Bush pretty clear,
    > unsolicited, and the only thing I encountered was complete agreement.
    > Then again, my circle of friends

Nothing more important than knowing your audience.


    > and for that matter Boston isn't indicative of America...
    > FWIW, they asked me what I thought of Blair, and I said I didn't have
    > much time for him either.
 
Old Jan 4th 2006, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Harsh
People
I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.

I have a few questions for the experienced:
1. Is this the right time to travel? Ireland would be pretty cold, no?
2. Most of my travelmates are students, so they would like to live in
cheap accos. Has anyone lived in youth hostels in Ireland?
3. Any specifc place that you people recommend while in Ireland?
4. People in some cultures open up their houses to tourists so that
they can absorb the culture of other countries - is this something the
Irish do?

Any other hints will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Harsh
1 - When is it not cold in Ireland?! Take a sweater. Take a waterproof coat. Don't let the weather put you off. After all, it's part of Ireland and being Irish.

2 - Hostels are fine. Obviously not to everyone's taste but students and the likes will find it fine. Take a look at The Irish Youth Hostel Associaton website http://www.anoige.ie/

3 - I suppose you can't really come to Ireland without spending at least a day in Dublin. Don't spend your whole trip here though. Dublin is expensive.
Galway is certainly worth a visit. And if you're out that way you are within distance to visit Mayo.

4 - I've wouldn't know. Perhaps you could get in touch with The Irish Tourist Board. However I'd suggest a Bed and Breakfast instead. Try going for a Bed and Breakfast with a pub on premises. Try browsing here to see the sort of thing available: http://www.roomex.com/home/index.php?affiliate_id=13

Spend a few evenings in a pub and get chatting to some locals. Look around for pubs that are having a traditional music night -- you'll have so much fun.

I'm not sure where you are from. I'm guessing America. Sorry if I'm presuming wrong. When in pubs and bars I'm sure you're used to asking for a beer and meaning something like Bud. In Ireland when you ask for a beer you will get a red beer such as Smithwicks. If you want a Bud ask for a lager.
Guinness is obviously a popular drink but it's certainly not to everyone's taste, however if you do want to try one perhaps you could try it with a dash of blackcurrant or lime to disguise the taste! Cider is also widely drunk, the most popular being Bulmers.

As said above by other posters there can sometimes be cetain topics of conversation to stay clear from. I'd have to agree that there are certain tmes when you don't talk about certain things -- for instance if you find yourself in a pub playing rebel music, stay clear of politics and religion!

Tipping isn't generally expected in Ireland. Obviously it's ok to tip in posh restaurants. But other than that, you'd really only tip if you received exceptional service or the waitress was especially friendly.
Tipping in taxis is also not expected, however if a taxi fare is, say €4.70....you would generally leave the €5 instead of waiting for your change.

How will you be travelling around the country? Buses from city to city are regular. However buses around the countryside are not very regular. It's best to rent a car. Not exactly cheap for students but I'd say a necessity if you want to see Ireland.

I can't think of anything else of the top of my head. But anything you'd like to know then please feel free to ask.
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Old Jan 4th 2006, 6:11 pm
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    >>> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    >>> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    >>> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    >>alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    >>other pub in the world.
    > The wise path is somewhere between the two.
    >>The last poster seems to be describing a stereotype that expired 50
    >>years ago.
    > Like everywhere else, you find people in Ireland whose mindset seems
    > to have been formed 50 years ago. Some of those people are in their
    > twenties.

sure, but there aren't any hard and fast rules about what you can and
cannot talk about in a pub in Ireland as the other post suggested.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 6:50 pm
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Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    >>>> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    >>>> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    >>>> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    >>>alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    >>>other pub in the world.
    >> The wise path is somewhere between the two.
    >>>The last poster seems to be describing a stereotype that expired 50
    >>>years ago.
    >> Like everywhere else, you find people in Ireland whose mindset seems
    >> to have been formed 50 years ago. Some of those people are in their
    >> twenties.
    >sure, but there aren't any hard and fast rules about what you can and
    >cannot talk about in a pub in Ireland as the other post suggested.

I disagree about equally with both suggestions that were made.

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Old Jan 4th 2006, 8:15 pm
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:44:00 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Harsh" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>2. Most of my travelmates are students, so they would like to live in
    >>cheap accos. Has anyone lived in youth hostels in Ireland?
    >Not I, but there are plenty of them, and most are good.

I don't have extensive experience, but Ireland is reputed to have some
of the best youth hostels in Europe, and my experience backs that up.
There are several associations of independent hostels.

Let's Go, Ireland, is a good resource for hostels in Ireland. The
Lonely Planet Ireland guide is also good, although I found a few
inaccuracies in it.
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Old Jan 4th 2006, 9:12 pm
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On 04 Jan 2006 14:40:40 GMT, Stimp <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Harsh wrote:
    >>> People
    >>> I am planning to travel to Ireland during the next 2-3 months.
    >>> Any other hints will be highly appreciated.
    >> Ireland with locals. You have to bide your time a bit, but
    >> usually someone will want to talk. Just follow the rules.
    >> 1) No politics 2) No religion 3) Don't criticize what you
    >> see. 4) Give as good as ya get. They'll wanna hear as
    >alternatively talk about whatever the hell you want, just like in any
    >other pub in the world.

Adhere to rules whilst drinking? Perish the thought!
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