Transfer to a discount airline
Jan 22nd 2005, 2:25 pm
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Transfer to a discount airline
For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
the same true for Amsterdam ?
Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
the same true for Amsterdam ?
Jan 22nd 2005, 2:39 pm
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Re: Transfer to a discount airline
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
It might help if you tell us where you are coming from and where you want to
go to.
P.S. as a partial and probably useless bit of information several low-cost
airlines use London Gatwick as do several high-cost carriers.
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> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
It might help if you tell us where you are coming from and where you want to
go to.
P.S. as a partial and probably useless bit of information several low-cost
airlines use London Gatwick as do several high-cost carriers.
Jan 22nd 2005, 2:56 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
The reason is that Ryan and the other discounters don't fly the route - that
is simple.
Aer Lingus claims to be a discount trans-Atlantic carrier now, but that is
relative, I guess. You might check them out.
Way more discounters use London, but of course they do fly to other places
from London. It ultimately depends where you want to go that will dictate
where your should fly into to make your discount connection.
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> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
The reason is that Ryan and the other discounters don't fly the route - that
is simple.
Aer Lingus claims to be a discount trans-Atlantic carrier now, but that is
relative, I guess. You might check them out.
Way more discounters use London, but of course they do fly to other places
from London. It ultimately depends where you want to go that will dictate
where your should fly into to make your discount connection.
Jan 22nd 2005, 3:06 pm
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> It might help if you tell us where you are coming from and where you
want to
> go to.
Flying from the West Coast US (San Francisco).
The destination is - well, this is an open jaw itinerary, that's why
flying directly from US is too expensive. I am planning to visit Greek
Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany. So arrival is
to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
want to
> go to.
Flying from the West Coast US (San Francisco).
The destination is - well, this is an open jaw itinerary, that's why
flying directly from US is too expensive. I am planning to visit Greek
Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany. So arrival is
to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
Jan 22nd 2005, 3:17 pm
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> It might help if you tell us where you are coming from and where you
want to
> go to.
I am coming from West Coast US (San Francisco).
As for the destination in Europe - it is an open jaw itinerary, that's
why flying directly from US is too expensive. I am planning to visit
Greek Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany (Saxonia
and Berlin). Arrival is to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
want to
> go to.
I am coming from West Coast US (San Francisco).
As for the destination in Europe - it is an open jaw itinerary, that's
why flying directly from US is too expensive. I am planning to visit
Greek Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany (Saxonia
and Berlin). Arrival is to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
Jan 22nd 2005, 5:04 pm
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In article <[email protected] .com>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
> the same true for Amsterdam ?
Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
--
Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda
Jan 22nd 2005, 7:38 pm
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"Dan Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected] .com>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
>> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
>> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
>> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
>> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
>> the same true for Amsterdam ?
> Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
> the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
> flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
And although I appreciate that you didn't use the word "transfer" in a
literal sense, please be aware that the discount airlines are all
exclusively "point to point". And you must observe their check-in times
(check each Airlines policy on their website) and you must be
particularly careful with the amount of luggage. Ryanair, for example,
allow only 15kg of checked luggage without excess charges. And some
Airlines allow very small amounts of carry-on luggage.
JohnT
news:230120050004419924%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected] .com>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> For some reason, there seem to be no direct flights between US and
>> Europe on a discount airline, like RyanAir. So I am planning to use a
>> standard carrier to get to Europe, and then transfer to a discounter.
>> Where is the best place to transfer - London or Amsterdam ? Looks like
>> major airlines and discounters use different airports near London; is
>> the same true for Amsterdam ?
> Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
> the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
> flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
And although I appreciate that you didn't use the word "transfer" in a
literal sense, please be aware that the discount airlines are all
exclusively "point to point". And you must observe their check-in times
(check each Airlines policy on their website) and you must be
particularly careful with the amount of luggage. Ryanair, for example,
allow only 15kg of checked luggage without excess charges. And some
Airlines allow very small amounts of carry-on luggage.
JohnT
Jan 22nd 2005, 8:19 pm
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:38:36 -0000, "JohnT"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
>> the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
>> flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
You would be mad to transfer from Gatwick or LHR to STN to take
advantage of of a low cost flight, LGW has plenty of low cost flights,
and I'm sure a more intelligent and cheaper combination could be had.
3 hour coach rides can sometimes make things a lot cheaper, but not in
the case of London airports.
EasyJet fly to both Athens and Rome CIA from LGW for example.
> And some Airlines allow very small amounts of carry-on luggage.
and others like EasyJet have no limit on the weight of carry-on
luggage.
Jim.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ryanair has lots of flights from London. You may however have to take
>> the bus from Heathrow or Gatwick to Standsted, from where most of their
>> flights seem to originate. Just check out ryanair.com.
You would be mad to transfer from Gatwick or LHR to STN to take
advantage of of a low cost flight, LGW has plenty of low cost flights,
and I'm sure a more intelligent and cheaper combination could be had.
3 hour coach rides can sometimes make things a lot cheaper, but not in
the case of London airports.
EasyJet fly to both Athens and Rome CIA from LGW for example.
> And some Airlines allow very small amounts of carry-on luggage.
and others like EasyJet have no limit on the weight of carry-on
luggage.
Jim.
Jan 22nd 2005, 9:00 pm
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Discount airlines can have ridiculously low baggage limits with high
excess luggage charges. This may necesitate storing luggage while
using them. As you mention an open jaw ticket, I think that it would
work better. You can use an European carrier which flies into San
Francisco, their European hub city, Berlin and Athens (or Rome). Then
if flights are delayed or canceled, being on the same itinary, they are
responsible and not you. Otherwise, you may be placing yourself in
financial jeopardy and prudently may have to travel a day earlier than
required. I would think that flying SF to Athens, a ferry to Italy, a
train from Rome to Berlin, and a flight back to SF from there might
best suit your travel needs.
George
excess luggage charges. This may necesitate storing luggage while
using them. As you mention an open jaw ticket, I think that it would
work better. You can use an European carrier which flies into San
Francisco, their European hub city, Berlin and Athens (or Rome). Then
if flights are delayed or canceled, being on the same itinary, they are
responsible and not you. Otherwise, you may be placing yourself in
financial jeopardy and prudently may have to travel a day earlier than
required. I would think that flying SF to Athens, a ferry to Italy, a
train from Rome to Berlin, and a flight back to SF from there might
best suit your travel needs.
George
Jan 22nd 2005, 9:01 pm
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Re: Transfer to a discount airline
You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may be
ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage. This may require
leaving some baggage in storage when flying on a discount carrier. You
mentioned in your next message using an open jaw ticket. That probably
would work out better. Basically, pick a European airline that serves
San Francisco, their European hub city, and also Berlin and Athens (or
Rome). This way your entire itinary will be on one ticket and the
airlines will be responsible for delayed or canceled flights, and not
you. Otherwise, if you miss your flight you could be put in financial
jeopardy, and wisely should schedule flights a day earlier than
necessary to avoid this problem. Probably, flying into Athens, taking
the ferry to Italy, and a train from Rome to Berlin would work out well
for you.
George
ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage. This may require
leaving some baggage in storage when flying on a discount carrier. You
mentioned in your next message using an open jaw ticket. That probably
would work out better. Basically, pick a European airline that serves
San Francisco, their European hub city, and also Berlin and Athens (or
Rome). This way your entire itinary will be on one ticket and the
airlines will be responsible for delayed or canceled flights, and not
you. Otherwise, if you miss your flight you could be put in financial
jeopardy, and wisely should schedule flights a day earlier than
necessary to avoid this problem. Probably, flying into Athens, taking
the ferry to Italy, and a train from Rome to Berlin would work out well
for you.
George
Jan 22nd 2005, 9:34 pm
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[email protected] wrote in
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> I am planning to visit Greek
> Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany. So arrival is
> to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
All budget flights into and out of any of the Berlin airports
are listed on this page:
http://www.berlin-airport.de/PubDeut...Lcc/index.html
Regards
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da stolperte das Trockenhorn, und's Naßhorn sagte: "Siehste!"
- Heinz Erhardt
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> I am planning to visit Greek
> Islands, Southern Italy and Rome, and Eastern Germany. So arrival is
> to Rome or Athens, departure is from Berlin.
All budget flights into and out of any of the Berlin airports
are listed on this page:
http://www.berlin-airport.de/PubDeut...Lcc/index.html
Regards
--
Ein Naßhorn und ein Trockenhorn spazierten durch die Wüste,
da stolperte das Trockenhorn, und's Naßhorn sagte: "Siehste!"
- Heinz Erhardt
Jan 22nd 2005, 9:46 pm
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"george" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may be
> ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage. This may require
> leaving some baggage in storage when flying on a discount carrier. You
> mentioned in your next message using an open jaw ticket. That probably
> would work out better. Basically, pick a European airline that serves
> San Francisco, their European hub city, and also Berlin and Athens (or
> Rome). This way your entire itinary will be on one ticket and the
> airlines will be responsible for delayed or canceled flights, and not
> you. Otherwise, if you miss your flight you could be put in financial
> jeopardy, and wisely should schedule flights a day earlier than
> necessary to avoid this problem. Probably, flying into Athens, taking
> the ferry to Italy, and a train from Rome to Berlin would work out well
> for you.
> George
A prudent traveler, who does not have special medical or business needs,
will come nowhere close to exceeding the baggage limits. But do study the
listed limits at the airline's web site. The reason most people choose to go
to London and then use budget carriers is that they can save many hundreds
of dollars - that's why I do it anyway. I do prepare for eventualities and
allow plenty of time for delays - and allow at least an overnight stay..
Traveler
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> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may be
> ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage. This may require
> leaving some baggage in storage when flying on a discount carrier. You
> mentioned in your next message using an open jaw ticket. That probably
> would work out better. Basically, pick a European airline that serves
> San Francisco, their European hub city, and also Berlin and Athens (or
> Rome). This way your entire itinary will be on one ticket and the
> airlines will be responsible for delayed or canceled flights, and not
> you. Otherwise, if you miss your flight you could be put in financial
> jeopardy, and wisely should schedule flights a day earlier than
> necessary to avoid this problem. Probably, flying into Athens, taking
> the ferry to Italy, and a train from Rome to Berlin would work out well
> for you.
> George
A prudent traveler, who does not have special medical or business needs,
will come nowhere close to exceeding the baggage limits. But do study the
listed limits at the airline's web site. The reason most people choose to go
to London and then use budget carriers is that they can save many hundreds
of dollars - that's why I do it anyway. I do prepare for eventualities and
allow plenty of time for delays - and allow at least an overnight stay..
Traveler
Jan 23rd 2005, 10:09 am
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"george" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may be
> ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
"ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg hand
luggage, total 25kg.
Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with 5-7kg
checked on long trips.
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> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may be
> ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
"ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg hand
luggage, total 25kg.
Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with 5-7kg
checked on long trips.
Jan 23rd 2005, 12:41 pm
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>> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may
>> be ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
> "ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg
> hand luggage, total 25kg.
> Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
> understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with
> 5-7kg checked on long trips.
You must wear shirts for 2+ days, only bring the shoes you have on your
feet, wear pants for many days, and not be very tall ..... or you wash
your clothes every few days. I like to wear a clean shirt every day, not
to mention clean socks and underwear, and I am tall so my clothes are
heavier and occupy more volume than short people's clothes. There
is no way I could manage with only 5-7 kg for a 2-3 week trip.
Pete
>> be ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
> "ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg
> hand luggage, total 25kg.
> Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
> understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with
> 5-7kg checked on long trips.
You must wear shirts for 2+ days, only bring the shoes you have on your
feet, wear pants for many days, and not be very tall ..... or you wash
your clothes every few days. I like to wear a clean shirt every day, not
to mention clean socks and underwear, and I am tall so my clothes are
heavier and occupy more volume than short people's clothes. There
is no way I could manage with only 5-7 kg for a 2-3 week trip.
Pete
Jan 23rd 2005, 2:10 pm
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"Pete" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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>>> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may
>>> be ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
>> "ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg
>> hand luggage, total 25kg.
>> Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
>> understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with
>> 5-7kg checked on long trips.
> You must wear shirts for 2+ days, only bring the shoes you have on your
> feet, wear pants for many days, and not be very tall ..... or you wash
> your clothes every few days. I like to wear a clean shirt every day, not
> to mention clean socks and underwear, and I am tall so my clothes are
> heavier and occupy more volume than short people's clothes. There
> is no way I could manage with only 5-7 kg for a 2-3 week trip.
> Pete
Of course you've to wash up now and then,
not being tall... that's ridiculous I'm 181cm and talll peoples clothes
aren't particular heavier.
I've been around the world with that amount...
The fun of travelling isn't to carry luggage.
Anyway if you can't manage with 25kg you've loaded too much in my opinion.
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>>> You should be aware that baggage limits on discount airlines may
>>> be ridiculously low with large fees for excess baggage.
>> "ridiculously low" in the case of Ryanair is 15kg checked and 10kg
>> hand luggage, total 25kg.
>> Unless you're emigrating and carrying your household I've difficult to
>> understand why that should be a problem. I'm used to manage with
>> 5-7kg checked on long trips.
> You must wear shirts for 2+ days, only bring the shoes you have on your
> feet, wear pants for many days, and not be very tall ..... or you wash
> your clothes every few days. I like to wear a clean shirt every day, not
> to mention clean socks and underwear, and I am tall so my clothes are
> heavier and occupy more volume than short people's clothes. There
> is no way I could manage with only 5-7 kg for a 2-3 week trip.
> Pete
Of course you've to wash up now and then,
not being tall... that's ridiculous I'm 181cm and talll peoples clothes
aren't particular heavier.
I've been around the world with that amount...
The fun of travelling isn't to carry luggage.
Anyway if you can't manage with 25kg you've loaded too much in my opinion.
