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Old Oct 29th 2004, 6:44 pm
  #16  
Joan McGalliard
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Bjorn Olsson <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Thanks! Just a quick question, when I get a tourist visa invite from
    > > them saying I will be staying at some hotel, which obviously I wont as
    > > i will be staying at my friends place.
    >
    > Btw, why not get a private visa? If your friend files an invitation
    > for you at Ovir, you can obtain a private visa and won't need any
    > hotel bookings and such. It takes longer, though.

When I went under very similar circumstances, we used visa support
supplied by http://www.ryh.ru/visas.htm . We paid the money up front,
when we arrived in St P we visited the hostel and gave them our
passports for registration. We had to pick them up on the day we left.
It was very straightforward, no hidden costs. As it was a proper HI
hostel, I felt very comfortable leaving my passport with them.

The friend I was travelling with was Soviet born, but travelling on an
Australian passport. Her parents arranged a private invitation for her.
It involved them (2002) spending a day queuing to get the visa, and
another day to register. She was so impressed by the ease we had with
our visas, that she was going to use the hostel from then on.

joan
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Old Oct 30th 2004, 1:53 am
  #17  
nitram
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:44:51 +0100, jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au (Joan
McGalliard) wrote:

    >?ystein <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    >> and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    >> Everybody knows it.
    >I handed my passport to my accomodation when I arrived, and reclaimed it
    >on my last day. If I'd been stopped by the police they would have had
    >to escort me to the hostel.

Nah, but they might have fixed you up with an escort if you had asked
nicely :-)
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Martin
 
Old Oct 30th 2004, 6:22 am
  #18  
?Ystein
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jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au (Joan McGalliard) wrote in message news:<1gmgky1.psxra21hiyk4xN%jem*NO-SPAM*@netspace.net.au>...
    > ?ystein <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    > > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    > > Everybody knows it.
    >
    > I handed my passport to my accomodation when I arrived, and reclaimed it
    > on my last day. If I'd been stopped by the police they would have had
    > to escort me to the hostel.

On a languagecourse I went to in St Petersburg, they kept the orignal
of the passport, visa and emmigrationcard in their safe and gave me a
copy. According to what they told me, this is good enough as
documentation.

Jan
 
Old Oct 31st 2004, 8:18 am
  #19  
Bjorn Olsson
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[email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
    > > > Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > > > On 27 Oct 2004 06:33:10 -0700, [email protected] (Kokinho) wrote:
    >
    > > > > Realistically, the worst that is likely to happen is that you will
    > > > > have to pay a large fine, and that will be it. Make sure you keep the
    > > > > little bit of paper that gets attached to your passport though, as you
    > > > > need this to exit! Apparently now you do not need to exit on the date
    > > > > of your visa expiry either, but I would just to be on the safe side.
    > > > > Basically check everything. The consulate stuffed up the tour company
    > > > > code on my visa (which was of course written in cyrillic, so I could
    > > > > not check it), and I managed to get it sorted out for about US$50. The
    > > > > consulate will always take the maximum amount of time they quote you
    > > > > to get the visa too.
    > > >
    > > > "the little bit of paper" or the immigration card a it is called, is
    > > > also important through your travel in Russia. Make sure you have
    > > > stamped at registration within 3 days after arival and in every new
    > > > town you stay the night. It is only the initial registration that
    > > > needs to be done at the immigration office. The registration in new
    > > > towns where you arrive is only a stamp from the hotel where you stay,
    > > > it is done in a minute. If you are stopped by the police during your
    > > > stay they are probably interested in this card. If you are stopped in
    > > > say Yekaterinburg
    > >
    > > You seem obsessed by this idea of being stopped by the police. Some
    > > kind of repressed sexual fantasy, perhaps?
    >
    > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    > Everybody knows it.

The same goes for any other visa-requiring country on the planet.
Everybody knows it.

Bjorn
 
Old Nov 1st 2004, 3:17 am
  #20  
?Ystein
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[email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
    > > > > Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > > > > On 27 Oct 2004 06:33:10 -0700, [email protected] (Kokinho) wrote:
    >
    > > > > > Realistically, the worst that is likely to happen is that you will
    > > > > > have to pay a large fine, and that will be it. Make sure you keep the
    > > > > > little bit of paper that gets attached to your passport though, as you
    > > > > > need this to exit! Apparently now you do not need to exit on the date
    > > > > > of your visa expiry either, but I would just to be on the safe side.
    > > > > > Basically check everything. The consulate stuffed up the tour company
    > > > > > code on my visa (which was of course written in cyrillic, so I could
    > > > > > not check it), and I managed to get it sorted out for about US$50. The
    > > > > > consulate will always take the maximum amount of time they quote you
    > > > > > to get the visa too.
    > > > >
    > > > > "the little bit of paper" or the immigration card a it is called, is
    > > > > also important through your travel in Russia. Make sure you have
    > > > > stamped at registration within 3 days after arival and in every new
    > > > > town you stay the night. It is only the initial registration that
    > > > > needs to be done at the immigration office. The registration in new
    > > > > towns where you arrive is only a stamp from the hotel where you stay,
    > > > > it is done in a minute. If you are stopped by the police during your
    > > > > stay they are probably interested in this card. If you are stopped in
    > > > > say Yekaterinburg
    > > >
    > > > You seem obsessed by this idea of being stopped by the police. Some
    > > > kind of repressed sexual fantasy, perhaps?
    > >
    > > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    > > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    > > Everybody knows it.
    >
    > The same goes for any other visa-requiring country on the planet.
    > Everybody knows it.
    >
The use of an immigration card and the
within-72-hours-registration-rule is not standard for all
visa-requiring countries. Everybody doesn't know that though.

Jan
 
Old Nov 1st 2004, 9:16 am
  #21  
Lennart Petersen
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"?ystein" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected] m...
    > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]. com>...
    >> [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message
    >> news:<[email protected]. com>...
    >> > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message
    >> > news:<[email protected]. com>...
    >> > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message
    >> > > news:<[email protected] om>...
    >> > > > Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
    >> > > > wrote in message
    >> > > > news:<[email protected]>. ..
    >> > > > > On 27 Oct 2004 06:33:10 -0700, [email protected] (Kokinho)
    >> > > > > wrote:
    >> > > > > Realistically, the worst that is likely to happen is that you
    >> > > > > will
    >> > > > > have to pay a large fine, and that will be it. Make sure you keep
    >> > > > > the
    >> > > > > little bit of paper that gets attached to your passport though,
    >> > > > > as you
    >> > > > > need this to exit! Apparently now you do not need to exit on the
    >> > > > > date
    >> > > > > of your visa expiry either, but I would just to be on the safe
    >> > > > > side.
    >> > > > > Basically check everything. The consulate stuffed up the tour
    >> > > > > company
    >> > > > > code on my visa (which was of course written in cyrillic, so I
    >> > > > > could
    >> > > > > not check it), and I managed to get it sorted out for about
    >> > > > > US$50. The
    >> > > > > consulate will always take the maximum amount of time they quote
    >> > > > > you
    >> > > > > to get the visa too.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > "the little bit of paper" or the immigration card a it is called,
    >> > > > is
    >> > > > also important through your travel in Russia. Make sure you have
    >> > > > stamped at registration within 3 days after arival and in every new
    >> > > > town you stay the night. It is only the initial registration that
    >> > > > needs to be done at the immigration office. The registration in new
    >> > > > towns where you arrive is only a stamp from the hotel where you
    >> > > > stay,
    >> > > > it is done in a minute. If you are stopped by the police during
    >> > > > your
    >> > > > stay they are probably interested in this card. If you are stopped
    >> > > > in
    >> > > > say Yekaterinburg
    >> > >
    >> > > You seem obsessed by this idea of being stopped by the police. Some
    >> > > kind of repressed sexual fantasy, perhaps?
    >> >
    >> > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    >> > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    >> > Everybody knows it.
    >> The same goes for any other visa-requiring country on the planet.
    >> Everybody knows it.
    > The use of an immigration card and the
    > within-72-hours-registration-rule is not standard for all
    > visa-requiring countries. Everybody doesn't know that though.
    > Jan
-----------------------------------
Correct. Rules and standards varies a lot. From very hard rules where you
have to spend a § year to obtain a visa, providing proof of booking
currency exchange e.tc
down to very easy arrangement where you can get the visa on arrival
without particular trouble.
Most convenient in my opinion is Australia with their on-line visas. No
paper at all.
L.P
 
Old Nov 1st 2004, 7:31 pm
  #22  
Bjorn Olsson
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[email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
    > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
    > > > > > Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > > > > > On 27 Oct 2004 06:33:10 -0700, [email protected] (Kokinho) wrote:
    >
    > > > > > > Realistically, the worst that is likely to happen is that you will
    > > > > > > have to pay a large fine, and that will be it. Make sure you keep the
    > > > > > > little bit of paper that gets attached to your passport though, as you
    > > > > > > need this to exit! Apparently now you do not need to exit on the date
    > > > > > > of your visa expiry either, but I would just to be on the safe side.
    > > > > > > Basically check everything. The consulate stuffed up the tour company
    > > > > > > code on my visa (which was of course written in cyrillic, so I could
    > > > > > > not check it), and I managed to get it sorted out for about US$50. The
    > > > > > > consulate will always take the maximum amount of time they quote you
    > > > > > > to get the visa too.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "the little bit of paper" or the immigration card a it is called, is
    > > > > > also important through your travel in Russia. Make sure you have
    > > > > > stamped at registration within 3 days after arival and in every new
    > > > > > town you stay the night. It is only the initial registration that
    > > > > > needs to be done at the immigration office. The registration in new
    > > > > > towns where you arrive is only a stamp from the hotel where you stay,
    > > > > > it is done in a minute. If you are stopped by the police during your
    > > > > > stay they are probably interested in this card. If you are stopped in
    > > > > > say Yekaterinburg
    > > > >
    > > > > You seem obsessed by this idea of being stopped by the police. Some
    > > > > kind of repressed sexual fantasy, perhaps?
    > > >
    > > > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    > > > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    > > > Everybody knows it.
    > >
    > > The same goes for any other visa-requiring country on the planet.
    > > Everybody knows it.
    > >
    > The use of an immigration card and the
    > within-72-hours-registration-rule is not standard for all
    > visa-requiring countries.

That's of course not what I meant either. I guess I have to spell it
out more cleary for you: If you are stopped by the police for a check
of your visa, they will want to see the entry and exit dates,
regardless of in which visa-requiring country you are. If the country
in question also uses an immigration card and registration procedure,
they will want to see your immigration card. This is obvious. I don't
know why you think that anyone would think differently?

Actually, you even said it yourself: "Everybody knows it". So, why are
you telling us then?

Bjorn
 
Old Nov 1st 2004, 7:34 pm
  #23  
Bjorn Olsson
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"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "?ystein" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:[email protected] m...
    > > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message
    > > news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > >> [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message
    > >> news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > >> > [email protected] (Bjorn Olsson) wrote in message
    > >> > news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > >> > > [email protected] (?ystein) wrote in message
    > >> > > news:<[email protected] om>...
    > >> > > > Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
    > >> > > > wrote in message
    > >> > > > news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > >> > > > > On 27 Oct 2004 06:33:10 -0700, [email protected] (Kokinho)
    > >> > > > > wrote:
    >
    > >> > > > > Realistically, the worst that is likely to happen is that you
    > >> > > > > will
    > >> > > > > have to pay a large fine, and that will be it. Make sure you keep
    > >> > > > > the
    > >> > > > > little bit of paper that gets attached to your passport though,
    > >> > > > > as you
    > >> > > > > need this to exit! Apparently now you do not need to exit on the
    > >> > > > > date
    > >> > > > > of your visa expiry either, but I would just to be on the safe
    > >> > > > > side.
    > >> > > > > Basically check everything. The consulate stuffed up the tour
    > >> > > > > company
    > >> > > > > code on my visa (which was of course written in cyrillic, so I
    > >> > > > > could
    > >> > > > > not check it), and I managed to get it sorted out for about
    > >> > > > > US$50. The
    > >> > > > > consulate will always take the maximum amount of time they quote
    > >> > > > > you
    > >> > > > > to get the visa too.
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > "the little bit of paper" or the immigration card a it is called,
    > >> > > > is
    > >> > > > also important through your travel in Russia. Make sure you have
    > >> > > > stamped at registration within 3 days after arival and in every new
    > >> > > > town you stay the night. It is only the initial registration that
    > >> > > > needs to be done at the immigration office. The registration in new
    > >> > > > towns where you arrive is only a stamp from the hotel where you
    > >> > > > stay,
    > >> > > > it is done in a minute. If you are stopped by the police during
    > >> > > > your
    > >> > > > stay they are probably interested in this card. If you are stopped
    > >> > > > in
    > >> > > > say Yekaterinburg
    > >> > >
    > >> > > You seem obsessed by this idea of being stopped by the police. Some
    > >> > > kind of repressed sexual fantasy, perhaps?
    > >> >
    > >> > If you are stopped by the police, the entry and exit date on the visa
    > >> > and the regitration on the immigrationcard is what they look for.
    > >> > Everybody knows it.
    > >>
    > >> The same goes for any other visa-requiring country on the planet.
    > >> Everybody knows it.
    > >>
    > > The use of an immigration card and the
    > > within-72-hours-registration-rule is not standard for all
    > > visa-requiring countries. Everybody doesn't know that though.
    > >
    > > Jan
    > -----------------------------------
    > Correct. Rules and standards varies a lot.

Thanks Lennart. That's surely a complete revelation to us all.

Bjorn
 

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