Emilia

Barbara Vaughan wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    >
    >
    > Judith Umbria wrote:
    >>
    >> "cristina" wrote in
    >> message news:[email protected]...
    >> >
    >> > "Barbara Vaughan" wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]...
    >> > >> I also learned recently that my Italian citizenship papers have
    >> > >> been
    >> > > forwarded from Rome.
    >> > Barbara, what did you get for the fedina penale for your
    >> > citizenship application? I guess I could go to the consulate and
    >> > get a fingerprint
    >> card
    >> > for the FBI but was wondering if there was another way.
    >> >
    >> > Cristina
    >>
    >> The whole source question seems to depend on where your address of
    >> record is. I was told to get the prints and send them to the West
    >> Virginia State Police. I did my own prints on their form.
    >> My friend from Los Angeles was told she had to submit her prints from
    >> a certified source to the FBI. The Embassy in Rome made an exception
    >> and did them for her. Our local carabinieri or Polizia di Stato
    >> would have been my guess, but no dice.
    >> This unevenness in the application of rules is beginning to be scary.
    >
    > I was never asked to obtain anything from the FBI.
    >
    > Barbara


My friend told me when she was asked for papers stating she hadn't been
married or had no crimal record, she went to the US consular section and
they made an official declaration for her, e.i. "I the undersigned state
that I've never been convicted of a crime" (or have never been married,
which ever is applicable). Maybe this would work in Italy? It might be
worth a try.

Greg Byshenk

Barbara Vaughan wrote:
    > Sjoerd wrote:

    > > Don't we all just love these kinds of useless documents? My partner had to
    > > submit a document proving that he is "not married". Eventually he got an
    > > official looking document from his church in a village in Colombia stating
    > > that there is 'no evidence that he is married". This was sufficient for the
    > > Dutch foreigners' police.

    > I had quite a time with the foreigners police when we lived in the
    > Netherlands. I was married and divorced when I was quite young. Then I
    > lived with a man for quite some time, with whom I had two children. The
    > children had the surname of their father, which apparently wouldn't have
    > been allowed in the Netherlands (at that time, anyway) unless we were
    > married. (In the states I lived in, you could pretty much choose
    > whatever surname you wanted for a baby.)

    > First of all, the police wanted evidence that I had been divorced.

I could be wrong, as the situation described does not apply to me, but
I suspect that this matter has to do with the fact that, if you are
granted a Dutch residence permit, then your spouse or partner is also
entitled to the same. Additionally, Dutch law recognizes non-married
partners much more liberally than many other places.


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Tim

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:54:59 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Ralph writes:
    >> But the member states are still allowed to ask you to register and get
    >> an official approval.
    >> They cannot deny it to you, though - strange
    >> but true.
    > Nor can they deport you if you don't do it, which is stranger still.

No, but they can fine you. Tim.

Tim

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:20:34 +0200, cristina wrote:

    > "Barbara Vaughan" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> That's very odd; there are lots of Europeans living in my province,
    >> including hundreds, maybe thousands, of Germans. But the only Europeans
    >> I've ever seen at the commissariato are from the former Soviet Union or
    >> other countries outside the EU. Perhaps they have a streamlined way to
    >> get the permesso di soggiorno?

And of course, if they're foreign employees of the European Commission,
they're exempt from the need to register. Perks of the job.
Tim.