Teenagers in France
May 11th 2004, 12:20 pm
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Re: Teenagers in France
Xavier wrote:
> > Most teens visiting Paris like to go to the Pere LaChaisse Cemetery to see
> Jim
> > Morrison's grave. It may not be of interest to you, but the rest of the
> cemetery
> > is well worth seeing.
> >
> C'est tres amusants ! Vos pôles d'interets sont vraiment tres curieux !
> Il y a tellement d'autres choses a voir que les cimetieres et les eglises...
Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
exceptionally interesting for adult too.
> > Most teens visiting Paris like to go to the Pere LaChaisse Cemetery to see
> Jim
> > Morrison's grave. It may not be of interest to you, but the rest of the
> cemetery
> > is well worth seeing.
> >
> C'est tres amusants ! Vos pôles d'interets sont vraiment tres curieux !
> Il y a tellement d'autres choses a voir que les cimetieres et les eglises...
Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
exceptionally interesting for adult too.
May 11th 2004, 2:34 pm
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Dave Smith writes:
> Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> exceptionally interesting for adult too.
Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
thirty years.
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> Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> exceptionally interesting for adult too.
Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
thirty years.
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May 11th 2004, 8:13 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> Dave Smith writes:
>
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
music, and Jim Morrison in particular? I know personally that many
teenagers who are capable of looking backwards and finding interest in
the past.
> Dave Smith writes:
>
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
music, and Jim Morrison in particular? I know personally that many
teenagers who are capable of looking backwards and finding interest in
the past.
May 12th 2004, 1:06 am
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Traveler Google writes:
> Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
> music, and Jim Morrison in particular?
There are a number of musicians buried in Paris cemeteries. What makes
Morrison special?
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> Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
> music, and Jim Morrison in particular?
There are a number of musicians buried in Paris cemeteries. What makes
Morrison special?
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May 12th 2004, 4:53 am
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On 12/5/04 4:34, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Smith writes:
>
>> Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
>> recommend
>> any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that
>> is
>> exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
I went to look at Chopin's tomb on Saturday, and he's been dead for much
longer than that!
J;
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Smith writes:
>
>> Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
>> recommend
>> any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that
>> is
>> exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
I went to look at Chopin's tomb on Saturday, and he's been dead for much
longer than that!
J;
May 12th 2004, 5:55 am
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> Dave Smith writes:
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one
that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
> --
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Apparently, Jim & the Doors are currently(1) popular amongst a particular
subset of teenagers normally(2) referred to as "Goths".
(1) At least, they were a couple of years ago.
(2) For all sufficiently small values of "normal"
Terry.
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dave Smith writes:
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one
that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
> --
> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
Apparently, Jim & the Doors are currently(1) popular amongst a particular
subset of teenagers normally(2) referred to as "Goths".
(1) At least, they were a couple of years ago.
(2) For all sufficiently small values of "normal"
Terry.
May 12th 2004, 8:25 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Dave Smith writes:
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
I don't know why they are interesting, only that they are.
> Dave Smith writes:
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
I don't know why they are interesting, only that they are.
May 12th 2004, 10:15 am
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Mine do!
"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Most teens visiting Paris like to go to the Pere LaChaisse Cemetery to
see Jim
> > Morrison's grave. It may not be of interest to you, but the rest of the
cemetery
> > is well worth seeing.
> Do today's teens have any idea who Jim Morrison was?
> miguel
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Most teens visiting Paris like to go to the Pere LaChaisse Cemetery to
see Jim
> > Morrison's grave. It may not be of interest to you, but the rest of the
cemetery
> > is well worth seeing.
> Do today's teens have any idea who Jim Morrison was?
> miguel
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May 12th 2004, 1:02 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Teenagers will be happiest in places where there are other teenagers,
> which includes most touristy areas. They are usually more interesting
> in watching and interacting with each other than in seeing any tourist
> attractions. Unfortunate but true. It's the hormones.
> People can appreciate a foreign trip just before puberty, and then again
> from the early twenties or so on, but during their teens there are more
> pressing concerns that tend to distract them.
It depends on the kid. My son always liked travelling as a youngster. We took him
to Europe with us when he was almost 16. We had a 15 rail past and were on the go
for most of that time before spending the last 5 days in Paris. He had a terrific
time. He liked it so much that he wanted to go on a school trip to Europe two
years later, and he loved that trip to. When he was 19 he had a chance to work in
Africa for a year and jumped at the opportunity, travelling there and living by
himself in a remote community. People like him love to travel at any age. So
while I can appreciate that some teens should be left at home, I would suggest
that some of them really enjoy those types of trips.
> Teenagers will be happiest in places where there are other teenagers,
> which includes most touristy areas. They are usually more interesting
> in watching and interacting with each other than in seeing any tourist
> attractions. Unfortunate but true. It's the hormones.
> People can appreciate a foreign trip just before puberty, and then again
> from the early twenties or so on, but during their teens there are more
> pressing concerns that tend to distract them.
It depends on the kid. My son always liked travelling as a youngster. We took him
to Europe with us when he was almost 16. We had a 15 rail past and were on the go
for most of that time before spending the last 5 days in Paris. He had a terrific
time. He liked it so much that he wanted to go on a school trip to Europe two
years later, and he loved that trip to. When he was 19 he had a chance to work in
Africa for a year and jumped at the opportunity, travelling there and living by
himself in a remote community. People like him love to travel at any age. So
while I can appreciate that some teens should be left at home, I would suggest
that some of them really enjoy those types of trips.
May 12th 2004, 3:00 pm
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In article <[email protected]>,
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Smith writes:
>
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
> > recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one
> > that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
Because he's been dead for 30 years.
If he was alive, he'd be touring like the Stones and only the parents of
the teens would care.
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Smith writes:
>
> > Yes, there is more to see churches and cemeteries. But then, I didn't
> > recommend
> > any churches, just a cemetery that many teens are interested in, and one
> > that is
> > exceptionally interesting for adult too.
>
> Why would any teens care about Jim Morrison? He has been dead for
> thirty years.
Because he's been dead for 30 years.
If he was alive, he'd be touring like the Stones and only the parents of
the teens would care.
May 12th 2004, 3:17 pm
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I agree. Mine are experienced travellers since very young. But other than
a ski week, they have never been to Europe. And some thing will not be so
interesting for them, but you never can tell. That's why I want to hear
from others about what their kids have enjoyed.
"Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mxsmanic wrote:
> >
> > Teenagers will be happiest in places where there are other teenagers,
> > which includes most touristy areas. They are usually more interesting
> > in watching and interacting with each other than in seeing any tourist
> > attractions. Unfortunate but true. It's the hormones.
> >
> > People can appreciate a foreign trip just before puberty, and then again
> > from the early twenties or so on, but during their teens there are more
> > pressing concerns that tend to distract them.
> It depends on the kid. My son always liked travelling as a youngster. We
took him
> to Europe with us when he was almost 16. We had a 15 rail past and were on
the go
> for most of that time before spending the last 5 days in Paris. He had a
terrific
> time. He liked it so much that he wanted to go on a school trip to Europe
two
> years later, and he loved that trip to. When he was 19 he had a chance to
work in
> Africa for a year and jumped at the opportunity, travelling there and
living by
> himself in a remote community. People like him love to travel at any age.
So
> while I can appreciate that some teens should be left at home, I would
suggest
> that some of them really enjoy those types of trips.
a ski week, they have never been to Europe. And some thing will not be so
interesting for them, but you never can tell. That's why I want to hear
from others about what their kids have enjoyed.
"Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mxsmanic wrote:
> >
> > Teenagers will be happiest in places where there are other teenagers,
> > which includes most touristy areas. They are usually more interesting
> > in watching and interacting with each other than in seeing any tourist
> > attractions. Unfortunate but true. It's the hormones.
> >
> > People can appreciate a foreign trip just before puberty, and then again
> > from the early twenties or so on, but during their teens there are more
> > pressing concerns that tend to distract them.
> It depends on the kid. My son always liked travelling as a youngster. We
took him
> to Europe with us when he was almost 16. We had a 15 rail past and were on
the go
> for most of that time before spending the last 5 days in Paris. He had a
terrific
> time. He liked it so much that he wanted to go on a school trip to Europe
two
> years later, and he loved that trip to. When he was 19 he had a chance to
work in
> Africa for a year and jumped at the opportunity, travelling there and
living by
> himself in a remote community. People like him love to travel at any age.
So
> while I can appreciate that some teens should be left at home, I would
suggest
> that some of them really enjoy those types of trips.
May 12th 2004, 3:50 pm
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Dave Smith writes:
> I don't know why they are interesting, only that they are.
Do _they_ know?
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> I don't know why they are interesting, only that they are.
Do _they_ know?
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May 12th 2004, 10:32 pm
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OK - two suggestions:
Your kids like the outdoors - go to the Auvergne. Base yourself in Le
Mont Dore or in Orcival or further south in the Mandailles valley -
camp site, hotel, whatever, and walk the walk and enjoy the evening
life of small bars and cafes.
Second; go to Tours and hire bikes from the place near the station,
take the cycle-way out along the Loire to Vouvray, visit all the
"caves" and sample the champagne-like sparkling wine - wherever you
see "degustation" it means free wine - buy a bottle for about three
euros, drink it with your picnic down by the river, get wrecked.
Excellent days out!
"Suzan Willcox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We have 2 weeks in France. What should we be sure to include when traveling
> with teenagers? Am considering: Alsace - Loire - Normandy - Paris, want to
> hike and bike and otherwise be active while in the countryside. We have a
> car. Any practical advice welcome!
Your kids like the outdoors - go to the Auvergne. Base yourself in Le
Mont Dore or in Orcival or further south in the Mandailles valley -
camp site, hotel, whatever, and walk the walk and enjoy the evening
life of small bars and cafes.
Second; go to Tours and hire bikes from the place near the station,
take the cycle-way out along the Loire to Vouvray, visit all the
"caves" and sample the champagne-like sparkling wine - wherever you
see "degustation" it means free wine - buy a bottle for about three
euros, drink it with your picnic down by the river, get wrecked.
Excellent days out!
"Suzan Willcox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We have 2 weeks in France. What should we be sure to include when traveling
> with teenagers? Am considering: Alsace - Loire - Normandy - Paris, want to
> hike and bike and otherwise be active while in the countryside. We have a
> car. Any practical advice welcome!
May 13th 2004, 5:24 am
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:06:59 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Traveler Google writes:
>
>> Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
>> music, and Jim Morrison in particular?
>
> There are a number of musicians buried in Paris cemeteries. What makes
> Morrison special?
Because he was a member of a popular beat combo that young people may be
passingly familiar with, having listened to recordings of his work on
their gramophones.
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> Traveler Google writes:
>
>> Because they are interested in musicians in general, the history of
>> music, and Jim Morrison in particular?
>
> There are a number of musicians buried in Paris cemeteries. What makes
> Morrison special?
Because he was a member of a popular beat combo that young people may be
passingly familiar with, having listened to recordings of his work on
their gramophones.
J;
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May 14th 2004, 12:15 am
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"Suzan Willcox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We have 2 weeks in France. What should we be sure to include when traveling
> with teenagers? Am considering: Alsace - Loire - Normandy - Paris, want to
> hike and bike and otherwise be active while in the countryside. We have a
> car. Any practical advice welcome!
I dont know the Loire area but
1 make them cycle around behind you and get the train
2 in Normandy I think the boys would enjoy the D Day (Jour J for some
reason) museum at Arromanches; the Bayeux tapestry is excellent
3 In Paris the 2 older ones would like sitting at a cafe drinking
coffee
4 In Paris the sewer tour a must see
5 In Mulhouse Alsace the Bugatti Museum
O Donnell Abu
> We have 2 weeks in France. What should we be sure to include when traveling
> with teenagers? Am considering: Alsace - Loire - Normandy - Paris, want to
> hike and bike and otherwise be active while in the countryside. We have a
> car. Any practical advice welcome!
I dont know the Loire area but
1 make them cycle around behind you and get the train
2 in Normandy I think the boys would enjoy the D Day (Jour J for some
reason) museum at Arromanches; the Bayeux tapestry is excellent
3 In Paris the 2 older ones would like sitting at a cafe drinking
coffee
4 In Paris the sewer tour a must see
5 In Mulhouse Alsace the Bugatti Museum
O Donnell Abu
