Stay away from Brussels!
Aug 30th 2004, 8:38 am
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Re: AS we rant along . . .Re: Stay away from Brussels!
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:54:43 -0500, jcoulter
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bronson Lee <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected] :
>;-( sigh
Well, if you don't like it, try being more understanding next time.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bronson Lee <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected] :
>;-( sigh
Well, if you don't like it, try being more understanding next time.
Aug 30th 2004, 8:40 am
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Re: AS we rant along . . .Re: Stay away from Brussels!
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:25:51 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't blame you; the blame belongs with the
>thieves.
He got robbed and you're showing your big-heartedness by not blaming
him? Try putting yourself in his shoes.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't blame you; the blame belongs with the
>thieves.
He got robbed and you're showing your big-heartedness by not blaming
him? Try putting yourself in his shoes.
Aug 30th 2004, 8:59 am
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Re: Stay away from Brussels!
jenn <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying a thief couldn't steal either or both, but why bother,
>> when there are other, less difficult, "marks"?
>>
When I hear about people being robbed it seems that they are almost always
with a group. People tend to think they are safer in a group when they are
actually easier prey unless the whole group is vigilant.
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying a thief couldn't steal either or both, but why bother,
>> when there are other, less difficult, "marks"?
>>
When I hear about people being robbed it seems that they are almost always
with a group. People tend to think they are safer in a group when they are
actually easier prey unless the whole group is vigilant.
Aug 30th 2004, 9:59 am
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Re: Stay away from Brussels!
jcoulter <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>.. .
> [email protected] (me) wrote in
> news:[email protected] om:
[snip]
> > But in what manner? You can be aware of a potential threat,
> > but be unaware of the specific nature there of. While you're
> > checking your wallet, they're taking your bag.
>
> check your wallet and be assured someone else is checking to see where it
> is. Keeping it somewhere that you can continually monitor without unusual
> behavior or movements is better. a wallet in the front pocket for instance
> can be "checked" with light brushing that comes normally with walking,
> reaching up to check your butt signals which side to target.
>
> OP was trying to "guard" too much stuff alone. if you can't be in control
> of all that you are guarding, you are guarding too much and inviting
> others to assist you.
This much appears to be true. He was probably a target not so much
because he appeared to off his guard, but incapable of guarding.
> [email protected] (me) wrote in
> news:[email protected] om:
[snip]
> > But in what manner? You can be aware of a potential threat,
> > but be unaware of the specific nature there of. While you're
> > checking your wallet, they're taking your bag.
>
> check your wallet and be assured someone else is checking to see where it
> is. Keeping it somewhere that you can continually monitor without unusual
> behavior or movements is better. a wallet in the front pocket for instance
> can be "checked" with light brushing that comes normally with walking,
> reaching up to check your butt signals which side to target.
>
> OP was trying to "guard" too much stuff alone. if you can't be in control
> of all that you are guarding, you are guarding too much and inviting
> others to assist you.
This much appears to be true. He was probably a target not so much
because he appeared to off his guard, but incapable of guarding.
Aug 30th 2004, 10:02 am
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Re: Stay away from Brussels!
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> [email protected] (me) wrote:
>
> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>
> >> When a stranger attempts to engage your
> >> attention, you should immediately become even more vigilant.
> >
> > But in what manner?
> >
> As appropriate to the situation. That's not a cop-out answer. Every
> circumstance is different.
And multiple answers for single circumstances, that's the problem.
> > You can be aware of a potential threat,
> >but be unaware of the specific nature there of. While you're
> >checking your wallet, they're taking your bag.
> >
> If you are alert, you'll have a pretty good idea of where the
> vulnerabilities are. For example, if you have a bag on the seat beside
> you, and your wallet is in your pocket, you don't check the wallet;
> you check the bag.
There is a good chance, when dealing with pros, that regardless of
what you guard, it is what you don't that they will target. They
are fast and flexible.
>
> Nobody is 100% proof against thieves, but some people are far less
> likely to be victims than are others. It's not entirely down to
> chance.
No, but it is not always about being off ones guard either. As someone
else suggested, in this case it appears to be merely a case of trying
to guard too much.
> [email protected] (me) wrote:
>
> >Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>
> >> When a stranger attempts to engage your
> >> attention, you should immediately become even more vigilant.
> >
> > But in what manner?
> >
> As appropriate to the situation. That's not a cop-out answer. Every
> circumstance is different.
And multiple answers for single circumstances, that's the problem.
> > You can be aware of a potential threat,
> >but be unaware of the specific nature there of. While you're
> >checking your wallet, they're taking your bag.
> >
> If you are alert, you'll have a pretty good idea of where the
> vulnerabilities are. For example, if you have a bag on the seat beside
> you, and your wallet is in your pocket, you don't check the wallet;
> you check the bag.
There is a good chance, when dealing with pros, that regardless of
what you guard, it is what you don't that they will target. They
are fast and flexible.
>
> Nobody is 100% proof against thieves, but some people are far less
> likely to be victims than are others. It's not entirely down to
> chance.
No, but it is not always about being off ones guard either. As someone
else suggested, in this case it appears to be merely a case of trying
to guard too much.
Sep 1st 2004, 3:06 am
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Re: Stay away from Brussels!
Lennart Petersen schrieb:
> Maybe in UK the bomb threat is the big issue but in many other countries
> theft is the most likely result should a bag be left unattended.
Not anymore. Over the last months, several big train stations in Germany
have been closed down completely for one or two hours after an unattended
bag was found. In one case, it *was* a bomb, while all the others had been
just bags.
... Martin
> Maybe in UK the bomb threat is the big issue but in many other countries
> theft is the most likely result should a bag be left unattended.
Not anymore. Over the last months, several big train stations in Germany
have been closed down completely for one or two hours after an unattended
bag was found. In one case, it *was* a bomb, while all the others had been
just bags.
... Martin
Sep 2nd 2004, 6:25 am
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Re: AS we rant along . . .Re: Stay away from Brussels!
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:10:46 -0700, Irwell wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:15:48 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>jcoulter wrote:
>>> Nice afternoon for a white beer like Wittekerke, non?
>>Perhaps that was the OP's problem - too MANY "Wittekerken"!
>
> It may have been, or not, but the British Foreign service
> specifically mentions the area around the Brussels Gare du Midi
Does it recommend any particular beer to drink while being mugged?
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:15:48 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>jcoulter wrote:
>>> Nice afternoon for a white beer like Wittekerke, non?
>>Perhaps that was the OP's problem - too MANY "Wittekerken"!
>
> It may have been, or not, but the British Foreign service
> specifically mentions the area around the Brussels Gare du Midi
Does it recommend any particular beer to drink while being mugged?
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