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Old Feb 24th 2002, 11:21 pm
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The Enigmatic O
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I've realized that we will begin our vacation in London on St. Patrick's day. While
London is obviously not Ireland, I'm assuming that there is a sizable Irish presence
in London. Is there any sort of St. Patrick's activities that one might want to
catch? Parades or such? How about a decent Irish restaurant?

-Tim
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 9:32 am
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Derek Fisher
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The Enigmatic One wrote:

    > I've realized that we will begin our vacation in London on St. Patrick's
    > day. While London is obviously not Ireland, I'm assuming that there is a
    > sizable Irish presence in London. Is there any sort of St. Patrick's
    > activities that one might want to catch? Parades or such? How about a
    > decent Irish restaurant?
    >
    > -Tim

The only "Irish" things that may happen in London would be loads of yahoos getting
drunk all afternoon because it's "trendy". The biggest Irish area in London is in
Kilburn (north), although the area isn't the prettiest in the capital. There is
nothing on the scale of US cities' celebrations. - Hell, we don't even celebrate St.
George's Day!!!

Derek
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Old Feb 25th 2002, 9:51 am
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The Enigmatic One <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > I've realized that we will begin our vacation in London on St. Patrick's day. While
    > London is obviously not Ireland, I'm assuming that there is a sizable Irish
    > presence in London. Is there any sort of St. Patrick's activities that one might
    > want to catch? Parades or such?

No, London is not crawling with wannabe Irish. Plastic 'Irish' chain pubs like
O'Neills will use 17/3 to drum up extra customers, but that's about it.

How
    > about a decent Irish restaurant?

Don't think I've ever heard of one- trad Irish food is very good but tends to be best
enjoyed in a proper Irish bar environment.

    >
    >
    > -Tim
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 3:46 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

    >The only "Irish" things that may happen in London would be loads of yahoos getting
    >drunk all afternoon because it's "trendy". The biggest Irish area in London is in
    >Kilburn (north), although the area isn't the prettiest in the capital. There is
    >nothing on the scale of US cities' celebrations. - Hell, we don't even celebrate St.
    >George's Day!!!

Ah. Nothing like Chicago, then. OK.

-Tim
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 3:46 pm
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The Enigmatic O
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In article <[email protected]>, @ntlworld.com says...

    >No, London is not crawling with wannabe Irish. Plastic 'Irish' chain pubs like
    >O'Neills will use 17/3 to drum up extra customers, but that's about it.

No real Irish in London for (I'm assuming) job opportunities?
    >
    >How
    >> about a decent Irish restaurant?
    >
    >Don't think I've ever heard of one- trad Irish food is very good but tends to be
    >best enjoyed in a proper Irish bar environment.

Well, are there any proper Irish bar environments in London? I'm not going to
make it to Ireland, obviously, and I'm not going to be home for my mom's
traditional dinner.

-Tim
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 4:25 pm
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The Enigmatic One <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > @ntlworld.com says...
    >
    > >No, London is not crawling with wannabe Irish. Plastic 'Irish' chain pubs like
    > >O'Neills will use 17/3 to drum up extra customers, but that's about
it.
    >
    > No real Irish in London for (I'm assuming) job opportunities?

The opportunities are just as good in Dublin, and there aren't as many English people
in Dublin

    > >
    > >How
    > >> about a decent Irish restaurant?
    > >
    > >Don't think I've ever heard of one- trad Irish food is very good but
tends
    > >to be best enjoyed in a proper Irish bar environment.
    >
    > Well, are there any proper Irish bar environments in London? I'm not going to make
    > it to Ireland, obviously, and I'm not going to be home for
my
    > mom's traditional dinner.

As the other guy said, try Kilburn, or trawl the net for any Irish exile sites, where
there maybe news of a party which is in a more acceptable area
(i.u. central). Try Cadogan Arms 289 Kings Road Chelsea

Good luck

    >
    >
    > -Tim
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 4:26 pm
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Alan Thomas Har
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The Enigmatic One wrote:
    >
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > @ntlworld.com says...
    >
    > >No, London is not crawling with wannabe Irish. Plastic 'Irish' chain pubs like
    > >O'Neills will use 17/3 to drum up extra customers, but that's about it.
    >
    > No real Irish in London for (I'm assuming) job opportunities?

There is a substantial Irish presence in London, as in most major British cities. In
addition to people born in Ireland, many people of Irish ancestry consider themselves
to be Irish.

    > Well, are there any proper Irish bar environments in London?

Yes, there are. The problem is the recent proliferation of "plastic Paddy" pubs of
the "Scruffy Murphy" and "Fibber Magee" type, with a totally spurious "Irishness".
Kilburn has been mentioned as a likely area to find them. A good place to spend Saint
Patrick's night in convivial Irish company might be a Catholic club, the social
premises attached to many RC churches. These are members' clubs, but guests can be
"signed in" in most of them. Attendance at Mass on 17th March (or the previous
Sunday) and a gentle enquiry about visiting the Catholic club for Saint Paddy's night
may well find a member prepared to sign you
in.

Alan Harrison
 
Old Feb 25th 2002, 7:22 pm
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Congokid
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In article <[email protected]>, Alan Thomas Harrison
<[email protected]> writes

    >The Enigmatic One wrote:
    >>
    >> In article <[email protected]>, @ntlworld.com
    >> says...
    >>
    >> >No, London is not crawling with wannabe Irish. Plastic 'Irish' chain pubs like
    >> >O'Neills will use 17/3 to drum up extra customers, but that's about it.

    >> Well, are there any proper Irish bar environments in London?
    >
    >Yes, there are. The problem is the recent proliferation of "plastic Paddy" pubs of
    >the "Scruffy Murphy" and "Fibber Magee" type, with a totally spurious "Irishness".
    >Kilburn has been mentioned as a likely area to find them. A good place to spend
    >Saint Patrick's night in convivial Irish company might be a Catholic club, the
    >social premises attached to many RC churches. These are members' clubs, but guests
    >can be "signed in" in most of them. Attendance at Mass on 17th March (or the
    >previous Sunday) and a gentle enquiry about visiting the Catholic club for Saint
    >Paddy's night may well find a member prepared to sign you
    >in.

I used to live over an Irish bar and restaurant in London (Hennelly's of Balcombe
Street) but it closed several years ago.

The plastic paddy pub chains are all over the place, and not necessarily patronised
by Irish. However, many pubs are run by Irish managers and may attract an Irish
clientele because of this.

If you want Irish food, try Mulligan's of Mayfair (Cork Street), which specialises in
more traditional Irish cooking (see review on congokid.com).

Conrad Gallagher has opened a relatively new restaurant in Shaftesbury Avenue which
features some Gaelic themed dishes. There's a pub on Marylebone Lane called O'Conor
Don with its Ard-Ri dining room. There is also a restaurant called Arkles in Chelsea
Village, near Stamford Bridge football ground on the Fulham Road. Finally, there used
to be an Irish bar/restaurant Minogues in Islington. May still be there. I haven't
been to any of these.

Apart from the O'Neill and other chains, there's Waxy O Connor in Wardour Street, and
Waxy's Little Sister across the road, which used to be Finches Falcon, one of my
locals when I worked further up the street.

I haven't been to Kilburn recently so I don't know if the pubs I used to go to are
still around, but the Black Swan and Biddy Mulligans were popular with the local
Irish ex-pat population. There were several more further out in Cricklewood.

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Old Feb 25th 2002, 7:53 pm
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:18:03 GMT, [email protected] (The Enigmatic One) wrote:

    >>
    >> I've realized that we will begin our vacation in London on St. Patrick's day.
    >> While London is obviously not Ireland, I'm assuming that there is a sizable
    >> Irish presence in London. Is there any sort of St. Patrick's activities that
    >> one might want to catch? Parades or such? How about a decent Irish
    >> restaurant?
    >>
    >>
    >> -Tim
If you mean on the scale of US st patricks day celebrations, then NO

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Old Feb 25th 2002, 7:54 pm
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:18:03 GMT, [email protected] (The Enigmatic One) wrote:

    >>
    >> I've realized that we will begin our vacation in London on St. Patrick's day.
    >> While London is obviously not Ireland, I'm assuming that there is a sizable
    >> Irish presence in London. Is there any sort of St. Patrick's activities that
    >> one might want to catch? Parades or such? How about a decent Irish
    >> restaurant?
    >>
    >>
    >> -Tim
Actually i just answered this one, and as soon as I had finished, I checked my email,
and there was one from an American.. I wont quote it all except for this part.

    >>We have just submitted a booking for you to transfer us from Gatwick to our London
    >>hotel on July 4th 2002, we are now very concerned That the journey may take longer
    >>then the 90-120 minutes you quoted, as we have no desire to get caught up in any
    >>July 4th Parades or celebrations en route

I am just totally gobsmacked.... do they teach history in American schools ?????? for
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Old Feb 25th 2002, 9:16 pm
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"Brian Howell (Office manager) " <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

    >On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:18:03 GMT, [email protected] (The Enigmatic One) wrote:
    >
    >>>We have just submitted a booking for you to transfer us from Gatwick to our London
    >>>hotel on July 4th 2002, we are now very concerned That the journey may take longer
    >>>then the 90-120 minutes you quoted, as we have no desire to get caught up in any
    >>>July 4th Parades or celebrations en route
    >
    >I am just totally gobsmacked.... do they teach history in American schools ??????
You mena you don't celebrate the good luck of getting rid of us???

Actually th answer is yes they teach it, but noone really listens, are you surprised?
 
Old Feb 26th 2002, 5:05 pm
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    > I am just totally gobsmacked.... do they teach history in American schools ??????

Ignorance knows no borders.

*I have 2 Canadian friends who has never heard of the "American Civil War" and didn't
know we even had one. *I have met several Europeans that have never heard of the
Marshall Plan. Which basically single-handily financed the rebuilding of Europe after
WWII. *Japanese Students are taught in schools that WWII was a necessary war that
they were forced to start and that it wasn't their fault. *Some Americans? Well, some
people over here some how think the world celebrates our Holidays. *Every other
Frenchman I met in France thinks Americans only eat at McDonalds. One French lady at
a nice restaurant wanted me to try the beef off here plate and told me, "This tastes
better than those Hamburgers you eat every day". Our tour guide thought the same as
well in the Loire Valley. Guess they have never been over here. *The last goes to
everyone in the REST of the World. I grew up in Kansas City, a large city of 2-3
million people, yet everyone outside the midwestern US, Americans included,
Europeans, Brits, Canadians, etc.. Always ask me if I grew up on a farm, have I seen
Dorothy, or have I ever met an Indian in the wild.
 
Old Feb 26th 2002, 6:25 pm
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Proactive Search <[email protected]> wrote:
    : Ignorance knows no borders.

Indeed...

    : *I have met several Europeans that have never heard of the Marshall Plan. Which
    : basically single-handily financed the rebuilding of Europe after WWII.

...and you were saying?

Cheers,

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huge war reparations to the Soviets instead!) but doesn't seem to be doing too badly
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Old Feb 26th 2002, 6:25 pm
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Now Barbara,

I'm sure you were joking but the UK wouldn't laugh at your joke!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/1653681.stm

tells it all. Americans spent $4 billion+ last year in the UK.

"Just a week ago ceramics group Waterford Wedgwood cut more than 1,200 UK jobs -
citing a lack of American tourists buying its goods as a major cause. "

Keith

"Barbara Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    |

    | Not only that, cancel every American booking you have.
    |
    | Barbara
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Old Feb 26th 2002, 7:05 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, Just Joan
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >
    > > >>We have just submitted a booking for you to transfer us from Gatwick to our
    > > >>London hotel on July 4th 2002, we are now very concerned That the journey may
    > > >>take longer then the 90-120 minutes you quoted, as we have no desire to get
    > > >>caught up in any July 4th Parades or celebrations en route
    > >
    > > I am just totally gobsmacked.... do they teach history in American schools ??????
    >
    > Email these people back and cancel their booking. If you can, get their flight
    > numbers and cancel their flights, or have them changed to Miami or somewhere
    > within the US.
    >
    > People this ignorant shouldn't be allowed out of their home country.

Or on the other hand, they may be the ones most in need of travel.

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