EvelynVogtGamble

I KNOW I'll prefer Paris in mid-September to New York in January (my
favorite opera singer is performing in the same opera both places, this
season) so Paris it is! However, I'm not quite sure what to expect,
weather-wise, since I've not been to Europe in Autumn, before. What can
I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?

I've only been to Paris before in January-February, when I KNEW I'd
need winter clothing, but September can vary a lot, from place to place.
Here in Southern California, September often produces the hottest days
of summer. I seem to recall Minnesota could be quite chilly by the end
of September, but then winters there always started early and were much
colder than French winters seem to be.

It's about time to start planning what to pack, so any help will be
appreciated. Thanks

Jph

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news: [email protected]...

/.../
    > I've only been to Paris before in January-February, when I KNEW I'd
    > need winter clothing, but September can vary a lot, from place to place.
    > Here in Southern California, September often produces the hottest days
    > of summer. I seem to recall Minnesota could be quite chilly by the end
    > of September, but then winters there always started early and were much
    > colder than French winters seem to be.
/.../

Temperature : between 15° and 25°C ; sunny or rainy.

JPh

Runge

Well lady if u just stopped comparing whats not comparable for one minute, u
would learn that theres no chance of cold weather in september.
Minnesota, California or whatever have nothing to do with Paris.
As the man said, 15 to 25.

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected]...
    > I KNOW I'll prefer Paris in mid-September to New York in January (my
    > favorite opera singer is performing in the same opera both places, this
    > season) so Paris it is! However, I'm not quite sure what to expect,
    > weather-wise, since I've not been to Europe in Autumn, before. What can
    > I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
    > next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
    > can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
    > weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?
    > I've only been to Paris before in January-February, when I KNEW I'd
    > need winter clothing, but September can vary a lot, from place to place.
    > Here in Southern California, September often produces the hottest days
    > of summer. I seem to recall Minnesota could be quite chilly by the end
    > of September, but then winters there always started early and were much
    > colder than French winters seem to be.
    > It's about time to start planning what to pack, so any help will be
    > appreciated. Thanks

Wolfgang Schwanke

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
    > next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
    > can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
    > weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?

A bit of both. North of the Mediterranean, September can vary between
summerly weather (warm/sunny) to cool/rainy/windy weather. Temperatures
below 10C are unlikely though.

Regards

--
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Mark Fagan

According to Weather.com, Paris averages a high of 23C and low of 13C at the
beginning of September, with it declining to 18C and 9C respectively by the
30th. This is reasonably comfortable during the day but requiring a sweater
or jacket at night, or more. My experience is that September is usually
still very nice, but you can't be sure. Especially this year, where cool
temperatures and rain have persisted through the summer. You really need to
be prepared for whatever comes your way and be able to layer clothes so that
you can be warm enough if necessary and then take them off again if it warms
up. Keep an eye on the weather for a week or two before you go, you will at
least get an idea of the trend. Don't forget a small folding umbrella (I
have several I ended up buying there when I forgot.

For interest sake, sunrise is 7:08 and sunset is 20:32 (8:32pm) on the 1st,
and 7:49/19:31 on the 30th. So you'll be getting an average of 11-1/2 hours
of sunlight.

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I KNOW I'll prefer Paris in mid-September to New York in January (my
    > favorite opera singer is performing in the same opera both places, this
    > season) so Paris it is! However, I'm not quite sure what to expect,
    > weather-wise, since I've not been to Europe in Autumn, before. What can
    > I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
    > next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
    > can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
    > weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?
    > I've only been to Paris before in January-February, when I KNEW I'd
    > need winter clothing, but September can vary a lot, from place to place.
    > Here in Southern California, September often produces the hottest days
    > of summer. I seem to recall Minnesota could be quite chilly by the end
    > of September, but then winters there always started early and were much
    > colder than French winters seem to be.
    > It's about time to start planning what to pack, so any help will be
    > appreciated. Thanks

nitram

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:28:50 -0400, "Mark Fagan" <[email protected]>
wrote:
<snip>
    > Especially this year, where cool
    >temperatures and rain have persisted through the summer.

Time to get out a bit or what?
ttp://theyr.net/cg/cny/I1b0fba/F=js*v*040807*15*FR*fr_Paris

nitram

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:28:50 -0400, "Mark Fagan" <[email protected]>
wrote:
<snip>
    > Especially this year, where cool
    >temperatures and rain have persisted through the summer.

Time to get out a bit or what?
http://theyr.net/cg/cny/I1b0fba/F=js...15*FR*fr_Paris

EvelynVogtGamble

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

    > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >
    >>I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
    >>next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
    >>can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
    >>weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?
    >
    >
    > A bit of both. North of the Mediterranean, September can vary between
    > summerly weather (warm/sunny) to cool/rainy/windy weather. Temperatures
    > below 10C are unlikely though.

Thank you - apparently similar to New York last May (so perhaps I'd
better not leave the zip-out lining to my "all-weather" coat at home, as
I did in May.)
    >
    > Regards
    >

EvelynVogtGamble

[email protected] wrote:

    >
    > On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:28:50 -0400, "Mark Fagan" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > <snip>
    >
    >>Especially this year, where cool
    >>temperatures and rain have persisted through the summer.
    >
    >
    > Time to get out a bit or what?

Do you ever have anything to say that's NOT sarcastic? (Or even
anything helpful?)

nitram

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 13:25:12 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 11:28:50 -0400, "Mark Fagan" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >> <snip>
    >>
    >>>Especially this year, where cool
    >>>temperatures and rain have persisted through the summer.
    >>
    >>
    >> Time to get out a bit or what?
    >Do you ever have anything to say that's NOT sarcastic? (Or even
    >anything helpful?)

Yes lots. For a start I posted a link, which you snipped, that shows
that it is hot in Paris (as it has been for some weeks) but don't let
facts get in the way of your opinion.

Runge

Duh

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected]...
    > Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
    > > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > > news:[email protected]:
    > >
    > >
    > >>I expect to need, in the way of clothing, wraps, etc. for the
    > >>next-to-last week in September? I'm not talking about "fashion" (that I
    > >>can decide for myself), but will I need warm-weather clothing, cool/cold
    > >>weather clothing, or should I hedge my bets with a bit of both?
    > >
    > >
    > > A bit of both. North of the Mediterranean, September can vary between
    > > summerly weather (warm/sunny) to cool/rainy/windy weather. Temperatures
    > > below 10C are unlikely though.
    > Thank you - apparently similar to New York last May (so perhaps I'd
    > better not leave the zip-out lining to my "all-weather" coat at home, as
    > I did in May.)
    > >
    > > Regards
    > >

Olivers

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) extrapolated from data available...


    >
    > Thank you - apparently similar to New York last May (so perhaps I'd
    > better not leave the zip-out lining to my "all-weather" coat at home,
    > as I did in May.)

Unless this year's last week of September represents a leap from tradition,
you certainly won't want to carry a lining for an all weather cost. In
fact the lighter and less bulky the coat the better, with the new
microfibers and their weightless crushability being a bonus. Collapsible
umbrella? Sure. Lighweight, water-resistant crushable hat? Yes. But for
chill, given your coat, almost any sort of cardigan beneath ought to be
more than ample for any expectable situation in late September. Paris can
be dank and chilly, but it's not some barren Breton Cape in a gale or
Pentland Forth on the deck of a herring schuit.

Layers, my dear, layers of light fabric are better than buffalo robes.

TMO

Magda

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 09:29:49 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :


... Yes lots. For a start I posted a link, which you snipped, that shows
... that it is hot in Paris (as it has been for some weeks) but don't let
... facts get in the way of your opinion.

It was hot these past two weeks, but one hour ago it was raining again and hopefully the
next days the heat will be tolerable. Not agreeable at all, but still.

EvelynVogtGamble

Olivers wrote:


    >
    > Unless this year's last week of September represents a leap from tradition,
    > you certainly won't want to carry a lining for an all weather cost.

Uh..... "all weather COST"? (Aren't they all?)

    > In
    > fact the lighter and less bulky the coat the better, with the new
    > microfibers and their weightless crushability being a bonus.

The coat IS microfiber - so? (I'm certainly not about to buy another,
when I have no need for it at home!)

    > Lighweight, water-resistant crushable hat?

If it's cold enough for a HAT, it would certainly be cold enough for a
warmly lined coat, IMO!

    > Paris can
    > be dank and chilly, but it's not some barren Breton Cape in a gale or
    > Pentland Forth on the deck of a herring schuit.

Precisely why I posted the question, having had no experience of Paris
in September. Are you saying Paris, unlike most large cities, has no
wind-chill factor to consider? BTW, Do you EVER reply to posts without
putting people down? (No wonder I plonked you long ago!)

Magda

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:12:57 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... Precisely why I posted the question, having had no experience of Paris
... in September. Are you saying Paris, unlike most large cities, has no
... wind-chill factor to consider? BTW, Do you EVER reply to posts without
... putting people down? (No wonder I plonked you long ago!)

Paris is "compact", Evelyn, with many buildings to stop the wind, not to mention the
metro, which helps increase the temperature : it's always 3 to 4 degrees C warmer in Paris
than in the suburbs. That said, September is often rainy, so bring an umbrella. And maybe
a pair of leather gloves if you are particularly sensitive to the cold.