To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
Jan 2nd 2007, 3:22 am
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To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
this:
Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
currently organized?
Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
Jen
my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
this:
Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
currently organized?
Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
Jen
Jan 2nd 2007, 3:58 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
On 2 Jan 2007 08:22:38 -0800, "Jen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> From my research it seems that there isn't much
>to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
>in the morning and then catch the Tube.
Been into Stanstead once, didnt notice much going on. I think you have
to get a train, not tube to stanstead BTW, although you probably mean
tube to the train.
--
Mike Reid
UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
> From my research it seems that there isn't much
>to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
>in the morning and then catch the Tube.
Been into Stanstead once, didnt notice much going on. I think you have
to get a train, not tube to stanstead BTW, although you probably mean
tube to the train.
--
Mike Reid
UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
Jan 2nd 2007, 4:04 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
Stansted Airport is nowhere near any Tube/Underground station. You may find
the following site helpful.
http://wwp.international-airports.com/airport/stn/index.htm
Are you flying to Spain with Ryanair? If so you should be aware of their
draconian baggage restrictions (and their overall reputation). And I assume
that you depart STN the day after you arrive LHR (you quote arrival and
departure on the same day in your message).
JohnT
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> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
Stansted Airport is nowhere near any Tube/Underground station. You may find
the following site helpful.
http://wwp.international-airports.com/airport/stn/index.htm
Are you flying to Spain with Ryanair? If so you should be aware of their
draconian baggage restrictions (and their overall reputation). And I assume
that you depart STN the day after you arrive LHR (you quote arrival and
departure on the same day in your message).
JohnT
Jan 2nd 2007, 4:33 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
JohnT wrote:
> Are you flying to Spain with Ryanair? If so you should be aware of their
> draconian baggage restrictions (and their overall reputation). And I assume
> that you depart STN the day after you arrive LHR (you quote arrival and
> departure on the same day in your message).
>
> JohnT
Oops. You are correct. We arrive Saturday afternoon and Sunday
afternoon we go out of Stansted to Spain.
Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
> Are you flying to Spain with Ryanair? If so you should be aware of their
> draconian baggage restrictions (and their overall reputation). And I assume
> that you depart STN the day after you arrive LHR (you quote arrival and
> departure on the same day in your message).
>
> JohnT
Oops. You are correct. We arrive Saturday afternoon and Sunday
afternoon we go out of Stansted to Spain.
Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
Jan 2nd 2007, 4:45 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
On 2 Jan 2007 09:33:51 -0800, "Jen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
>luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
>fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
>this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
>Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
>flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
>rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
>it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
>way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
as its Ryan, check the exact location of your destination airport.
They use some odd airports! I think there are coaches to Stanstead
from London as well as the stanstead express train. At least Stanstead
is a pleasant airy airport, the opposite of Heathrow.
--
Mike Reid
UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
>Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
>luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
>fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
>this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
>Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
>flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
>rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
>it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
>way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
as its Ryan, check the exact location of your destination airport.
They use some odd airports! I think there are coaches to Stanstead
from London as well as the stanstead express train. At least Stanstead
is a pleasant airy airport, the opposite of Heathrow.
--
Mike Reid
UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
Jan 2nd 2007, 5:12 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
The Reid wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2007 09:33:51 -0800, "Jen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
> >luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
> >fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
> >this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
> >Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
> >flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
> >rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
> >it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
> >way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
>
> as its Ryan, check the exact location of your destination airport.
> They use some odd airports! I think there are coaches to Stanstead
> from London as well as the stanstead express train. At least Stanstead
> is a pleasant airy airport, the opposite of Heathrow.
> --
> Mike Reid
> UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
> Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
> Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
Stansted.....
> On 2 Jan 2007 09:33:51 -0800, "Jen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Yes, it's Ryanair and yeah, I saw how they charge per bag for the
> >luggage. I knew there had to be a catch for those practically "free"
> >fares! Fortunately, we are traveling fairly light and the fact that
> >this flight takes us right to our destination rather than to Madrid or
> >Barcelona, which are both hours away, was the draw. Cheap, non-stop
> >flights to Spain from Los Angeles are impossible to come by, and I'd
> >rather spend a night in London than hours lay over in Pittsburgh. Now
> >it's just a matter of figuring out how to not pay tons of extras on the
> >way (Tube ticket, potential train ticket, potential taxi fare, etc.)
>
> as its Ryan, check the exact location of your destination airport.
> They use some odd airports! I think there are coaches to Stanstead
> from London as well as the stanstead express train. At least Stanstead
> is a pleasant airy airport, the opposite of Heathrow.
> --
> Mike Reid
> UK Walking - photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
> Spain Walking -food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
> Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
Stansted.....
Jan 2nd 2007, 5:22 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
>
To get to Stansted from Paddington take the tube to Liverpool Street then
take Stansted Express (train) to the airport,
http://www.stanstedexpress.com/
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
>
To get to Stansted from Paddington take the tube to Liverpool Street then
take Stansted Express (train) to the airport,
http://www.stanstedexpress.com/
Jan 2nd 2007, 5:34 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
>
Getting from Heathrow to Paddington.
£14.50/15 minutes (20 from Terminal 4) on Heathrow Express.
£2 - £4.50/1 hour by tube changing trains en route. Why the fare spread?
See here https://sales.oystercard.com/oyster/lul/entry.do re Oyster (which
will reduce all your tube fares) and here
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2007/fare-finder/ for fares.
Where to change trains? Hammersmith between the Piccadilly and the
Hammersmith and City (bit of a hike between stations) or Gloucester Road
between Piccadilly and Circle or Earls Court between Piccadilly and District
(But make sure you get the *right* District train - going to Edgware Road).
Both Earls Court and Gloucester Road will require getting up from the deep
tube of the Piccadilly to the sub surface District. One other
alternative - Piccadilly to Hammersmith; cross the platform and take the
District Line to Earls Court, stay on the same platform and take a different
District train going towards Edgware Road) to Paddington (could be from
either face of the platform you find yourself on).
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> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
>
Getting from Heathrow to Paddington.
£14.50/15 minutes (20 from Terminal 4) on Heathrow Express.
£2 - £4.50/1 hour by tube changing trains en route. Why the fare spread?
See here https://sales.oystercard.com/oyster/lul/entry.do re Oyster (which
will reduce all your tube fares) and here
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2007/fare-finder/ for fares.
Where to change trains? Hammersmith between the Piccadilly and the
Hammersmith and City (bit of a hike between stations) or Gloucester Road
between Piccadilly and Circle or Earls Court between Piccadilly and District
(But make sure you get the *right* District train - going to Edgware Road).
Both Earls Court and Gloucester Road will require getting up from the deep
tube of the Piccadilly to the sub surface District. One other
alternative - Piccadilly to Hammersmith; cross the platform and take the
District Line to Earls Court, stay on the same platform and take a different
District train going towards Edgware Road) to Paddington (could be from
either face of the platform you find yourself on).
Jan 2nd 2007, 5:43 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
On 2 Jan 2007 08:22:38 -0800, "Jen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
>my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
>missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
[snip]
>Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
>station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
>Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
>is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
>fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
>the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
I took the Heathrow Express once, but whatever time I saved was lost
by waiting in a horrendously long queue for a taxi at Paddington.
After that I've always taken the tube from Heathrow. If your hotel is
very close, or if you can get there by public transport from
Paddington, this won't be a problem.
>Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
>leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
>to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
>in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
>station from the airport?
To get to Stansted, you need to take either a train from Liverpool
station or a shuttle bus from Victoria Coach Station. The shuttle bus
costs about half what the train costs. Given this, I would prefer to
take the tube into London instead of the Heathrow Express, and stay
near Victoria Station. (If you take the tube, you would have to change
from the Picadilly Line to the Circle Line to get to Victoria Station.
I know there is one station where you can change that doesn't have
many stairs but I forget which one it is.) Then you could get the bus
to Stansted the next day. You will save money on two journeys, at the
cost of a little extra time. I don't know what the Heathrow Express
costs these days, but the tube is a maximum of 4 pounds, less if you
get an Oyster card. The shuttle to Stansted is about 8 pounds, the
train is 15 or so.
Maybe you've already seen these web sites:
http://www.heathrow-airport-guide.co.uk/transport.html
http://www.stansted-airport-guide.co.uk/transport.html
I once took a Ryanair flight from Italy to London and then a flight
from London to the US. This was cheaper than flying from Italy to the
US with a major airline, but whatever I saved was more than eaten up
by the cost of sleeping, eating and travelling in London. However, it
is a nice stopover.
> Will that require a cab ride or is it
>reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
>Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
>would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
>wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
The train arrives right in the airport, and I believe the shuttle
arrives right at the door. It's a small enough airport so that you can
easily get to any gate.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
>I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
>my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
>missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
[snip]
>Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
>station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
>Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
>is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
>fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
>the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
I took the Heathrow Express once, but whatever time I saved was lost
by waiting in a horrendously long queue for a taxi at Paddington.
After that I've always taken the tube from Heathrow. If your hotel is
very close, or if you can get there by public transport from
Paddington, this won't be a problem.
>Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
>leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
>to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
>in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
>station from the airport?
To get to Stansted, you need to take either a train from Liverpool
station or a shuttle bus from Victoria Coach Station. The shuttle bus
costs about half what the train costs. Given this, I would prefer to
take the tube into London instead of the Heathrow Express, and stay
near Victoria Station. (If you take the tube, you would have to change
from the Picadilly Line to the Circle Line to get to Victoria Station.
I know there is one station where you can change that doesn't have
many stairs but I forget which one it is.) Then you could get the bus
to Stansted the next day. You will save money on two journeys, at the
cost of a little extra time. I don't know what the Heathrow Express
costs these days, but the tube is a maximum of 4 pounds, less if you
get an Oyster card. The shuttle to Stansted is about 8 pounds, the
train is 15 or so.
Maybe you've already seen these web sites:
http://www.heathrow-airport-guide.co.uk/transport.html
http://www.stansted-airport-guide.co.uk/transport.html
I once took a Ryanair flight from Italy to London and then a flight
from London to the US. This was cheaper than flying from Italy to the
US with a major airline, but whatever I saved was more than eaten up
by the cost of sleeping, eating and travelling in London. However, it
is a nice stopover.
> Will that require a cab ride or is it
>reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
>Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
>would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
>wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
The train arrives right in the airport, and I believe the shuttle
arrives right at the door. It's a small enough airport so that you can
easily get to any gate.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jan 2nd 2007, 6:32 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
Jen wrote:
>
> stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM.
There is a regular coach from quite near Sussex Gardens to Stansted. The
stop is in Gloucester Place, just north of Marylebone Road. It runs non-stop
from North London to Stansted. There is a timetable at
http://www.busmap.org/tt4/A06.pdf - there is no date on that timetable, so I
wouldn't trust it on exact times, but it will give you an idea of journey
time, frequency and alternative pick-up points. There is no need to book...
I think the fare is 6 pounds per person, or something like that.
>
> stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM.
There is a regular coach from quite near Sussex Gardens to Stansted. The
stop is in Gloucester Place, just north of Marylebone Road. It runs non-stop
from North London to Stansted. There is a timetable at
http://www.busmap.org/tt4/A06.pdf - there is no date on that timetable, so I
wouldn't trust it on exact times, but it will give you an idea of journey
time, frequency and alternative pick-up points. There is no need to book...
I think the fare is 6 pounds per person, or something like that.
Jan 2nd 2007, 7:29 am
#11
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
Jen wrote:
> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
This is a question about time and money. Heathrow Express takes 15
minutes from terminals 1-2-3 (Heathrow Airport Central) to Paddington
Station and it costs �15.50. By tube from Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 to
Paddington Station includes one change and usually takes somewhere
between 50-60 minutes, but a cash single ticket costs only �4 and only
�2 if you get yourself an Oyster Card[1], so it takes longer time but is
a lot cheaper. (I personally always choose the tube.)
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated.
You are right, Stansted Airport is just Stansted Airport and not much
more than that. The airport is situated quite a distance from central
London, about 50 minutes by train, and as it is always good to be at the
airport about 2-3 hours before flight departure with Ryanair be prepared
to leave central London 3-4 hours before the flight departure time.
The Stansted Express train is �15.50 from Liverpool Street station to
the airport. To get to Liverpool Street, take the tube (Circle Line from
Paddington, because Lancaster Gate station is closed this weekend), it
takes 20-25 minutes and costs �4 cash or �1.50 with Oyster[1]. Tube and
train take almost 1:30 from Paddington to Stansted Airport. There are
also express coaches A6 that stop at Marble Arch taking about the same
time (I don't remember how much it costs or how frequent the service is,
but I think it is about every 15-30 minutes or so).
[1] - You can buy an Oyster card at the first tube station you get to,
it makes most tube/bus fares about half the price cheaper. You load it
with at least �10 and pay a �3 deposit. You can return the card at the
last tube station of your London visit and get unused money and the
deposit back.
--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof
> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
This is a question about time and money. Heathrow Express takes 15
minutes from terminals 1-2-3 (Heathrow Airport Central) to Paddington
Station and it costs �15.50. By tube from Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 to
Paddington Station includes one change and usually takes somewhere
between 50-60 minutes, but a cash single ticket costs only �4 and only
�2 if you get yourself an Oyster Card[1], so it takes longer time but is
a lot cheaper. (I personally always choose the tube.)
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated.
You are right, Stansted Airport is just Stansted Airport and not much
more than that. The airport is situated quite a distance from central
London, about 50 minutes by train, and as it is always good to be at the
airport about 2-3 hours before flight departure with Ryanair be prepared
to leave central London 3-4 hours before the flight departure time.
The Stansted Express train is �15.50 from Liverpool Street station to
the airport. To get to Liverpool Street, take the tube (Circle Line from
Paddington, because Lancaster Gate station is closed this weekend), it
takes 20-25 minutes and costs �4 cash or �1.50 with Oyster[1]. Tube and
train take almost 1:30 from Paddington to Stansted Airport. There are
also express coaches A6 that stop at Marble Arch taking about the same
time (I don't remember how much it costs or how frequent the service is,
but I think it is about every 15-30 minutes or so).
[1] - You can buy an Oyster card at the first tube station you get to,
it makes most tube/bus fares about half the price cheaper. You load it
with at least �10 and pay a �3 deposit. You can return the card at the
last tube station of your London visit and get unused money and the
deposit back.
--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof
Jan 2nd 2007, 7:41 am
#12
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
On 2007-01-02, Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
snip
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
I think the "Stansted Express" main-line train from Liverpool Street
station will be the least irksome way to get to Stansted Airport. You can
get from Paddington or anywhere else in central London by tube to Liverpool
Street station. There are bus/coach services to get to Liverpool Street
(or indeed Stansted) by road, but getting anywhere by road in London is
neither pleasant nor predictable as to time (apart from 'longer than you
allowed for').
Be aware that weekends are often chosen for doing essential maintenance on
both roads and railways, and that "Sunday services" are much less frequent
than on weekdays. Check timetables in advance!
Liverpool Street station is close to the "Petticoat Lane" street market,
which is busy on Sundays.
Links:-
<http://www.stanstedairport.com/portal/controller/dispatcher.jsp?CiID�?2e8
d7e36b95010VgnVCM10000036821c0a____&CtIDD8c6a4c7f1 b0010VgnVCM200000357e12
0a____&Ct²C_CT_GENERAL&RootCh=To%20and%20from%20o ur%20Airport&Ch=To+and+f
rom+London&ChIDP5e8d7e36b95010VgnVCM10000036821c0a ____&ChPath=STN%5ETo+an
d+from+our+Airport%5ETo+and+from+London&ChIDPathLf 597dc2eb12010VgnVCM1000
00147e120a____%5E7e6797dc2eb12010VgnVCM100000147e1 20a____%5E505e8d7e36b9501
0VgnVCM10000036821c0a____> or <http://qurl.net/1ev> for short.
<http://www.stanstedexpress.co.uk/>
<http://www.heathrowexpress.com/index.asp?SID={C5A4A1BD-C3E5-4ED3-BFC9-EB21
BFD964EF}> or <http://qurl.net/1ew> for short.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Street_station>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddington_station>
<http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/> (Transport for London - lots of useful info).
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
snip
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
I think the "Stansted Express" main-line train from Liverpool Street
station will be the least irksome way to get to Stansted Airport. You can
get from Paddington or anywhere else in central London by tube to Liverpool
Street station. There are bus/coach services to get to Liverpool Street
(or indeed Stansted) by road, but getting anywhere by road in London is
neither pleasant nor predictable as to time (apart from 'longer than you
allowed for').
Be aware that weekends are often chosen for doing essential maintenance on
both roads and railways, and that "Sunday services" are much less frequent
than on weekdays. Check timetables in advance!
Liverpool Street station is close to the "Petticoat Lane" street market,
which is busy on Sundays.
Links:-
<http://www.stanstedairport.com/portal/controller/dispatcher.jsp?CiID�?2e8
d7e36b95010VgnVCM10000036821c0a____&CtIDD8c6a4c7f1 b0010VgnVCM200000357e12
0a____&Ct²C_CT_GENERAL&RootCh=To%20and%20from%20o ur%20Airport&Ch=To+and+f
rom+London&ChIDP5e8d7e36b95010VgnVCM10000036821c0a ____&ChPath=STN%5ETo+an
d+from+our+Airport%5ETo+and+from+London&ChIDPathLf 597dc2eb12010VgnVCM1000
00147e120a____%5E7e6797dc2eb12010VgnVCM100000147e1 20a____%5E505e8d7e36b9501
0VgnVCM10000036821c0a____> or <http://qurl.net/1ev> for short.
<http://www.stanstedexpress.co.uk/>
<http://www.heathrowexpress.com/index.asp?SID={C5A4A1BD-C3E5-4ED3-BFC9-EB21
BFD964EF}> or <http://qurl.net/1ew> for short.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Street_station>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddington_station>
<http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/> (Transport for London - lots of useful info).
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
Jan 3rd 2007, 12:14 am
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
Tube is cheaper, but less convenient. If you do choose the tube, I suggest
that you might find it worhwhile to buy a one-day all zones travelcard,
which will allow you to use tube and buses for the rest of the day. Another
minor issue with H'row Express is that you would need to carry your luggage
from Paddington to Sussex Gardens or pay extra for bus or taxi. Depends on
how much luggage you're carrying.
If you do choose the tube, I suggest changing _twice_ in order to save on
carting luggage around. At Hammersmith, you can make a cross-platform
connection between the Piccadilly Line and the District Line. At Earls
Court, change again on the same platform (maybe the same side, maybe the
opposite face of the platform) to a District Line (Edgware Road Branch)
train. This beats the alternatives, which involve carrying luggage up
escalators (if changing from Piccadilly to District at Earls Court or to
Circle at Gloucester Road) or between stations (changing from Piccadilly to
Hammesrmith and City, also involving a long walk to the station front in
Paddington).
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube.
As other posters have said, you can either take the tube to Liverpool Street
and then train to Stansted, or else try a bus service.
Alan Harrison
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
Tube is cheaper, but less convenient. If you do choose the tube, I suggest
that you might find it worhwhile to buy a one-day all zones travelcard,
which will allow you to use tube and buses for the rest of the day. Another
minor issue with H'row Express is that you would need to carry your luggage
from Paddington to Sussex Gardens or pay extra for bus or taxi. Depends on
how much luggage you're carrying.
If you do choose the tube, I suggest changing _twice_ in order to save on
carting luggage around. At Hammersmith, you can make a cross-platform
connection between the Piccadilly Line and the District Line. At Earls
Court, change again on the same platform (maybe the same side, maybe the
opposite face of the platform) to a District Line (Edgware Road Branch)
train. This beats the alternatives, which involve carrying luggage up
escalators (if changing from Piccadilly to District at Earls Court or to
Circle at Gloucester Road) or between stations (changing from Piccadilly to
Hammesrmith and City, also involving a long walk to the station front in
Paddington).
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube.
As other posters have said, you can either take the tube to Liverpool Street
and then train to Stansted, or else try a bus service.
Alan Harrison
Jan 3rd 2007, 1:15 am
#14
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
ALAN HARRISON wrote:
> If you do choose the tube, I suggest changing _twice_ in order to save on
> carting luggage around. At Hammersmith, you can make a cross-platform
> connection between the Piccadilly Line and the District Line. At Earls
> Court, change again on the same platform (maybe the same side, maybe the
> opposite face of the platform) to a District Line (Edgware Road Branch)
> train. This beats the alternatives, which involve carrying luggage up
> escalators (if changing from Piccadilly to District at Earls Court or to
> Circle at Gloucester Road) or between stations (changing from Piccadilly to
> Hammesrmith and City, also involving a long walk to the station front in
> Paddington).
Just one thing, there are lifts for step-free access from Piccadilly
platforms to District platforms at Earl's Court so you don't have to
carry lots of luggage up the escalators, even though I still recommend
changing at Hammersmith instead.
And, as an alternative, with lots of luggage I have found it easier to
change Piccadilly-District as you suggests at Hammersmith but then stay
on the District train to Gloucester Road and make an easy cross-platform
change to a clockwise Circle Line train there. The benefit is that you
don't have to keep an eye on both platform sides and to which place the
trains are going as you would have to when changing on Earl's Court. The
Circle Line is more frequent than the Wimbledon-Edgware Road service too.
--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof
> If you do choose the tube, I suggest changing _twice_ in order to save on
> carting luggage around. At Hammersmith, you can make a cross-platform
> connection between the Piccadilly Line and the District Line. At Earls
> Court, change again on the same platform (maybe the same side, maybe the
> opposite face of the platform) to a District Line (Edgware Road Branch)
> train. This beats the alternatives, which involve carrying luggage up
> escalators (if changing from Piccadilly to District at Earls Court or to
> Circle at Gloucester Road) or between stations (changing from Piccadilly to
> Hammesrmith and City, also involving a long walk to the station front in
> Paddington).
Just one thing, there are lifts for step-free access from Piccadilly
platforms to District platforms at Earl's Court so you don't have to
carry lots of luggage up the escalators, even though I still recommend
changing at Hammersmith instead.
And, as an alternative, with lots of luggage I have found it easier to
change Piccadilly-District as you suggests at Hammersmith but then stay
on the District train to Gloucester Road and make an easy cross-platform
change to a clockwise Circle Line train there. The benefit is that you
don't have to keep an eye on both platform sides and to which place the
trains are going as you would have to when changing on Earl's Court. The
Circle Line is more frequent than the Wimbledon-Edgware Road service too.
--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof
Jan 3rd 2007, 1:19 am
#15
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Re: To Spain via Stansted and Heathrow: Itinerary help?
On 2 Jan 2007 08:22:38 -0800, Jen wrote:
> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
How many people are travelling?
> I'm hoping that some of you knowledgable people out there can look over
> my itinerary for my upcoming trip and let me know if I've made any
> missteps, or if there is a more reasonable way to plan things.
>
> We arrive in February on a Satruday afternoon from Los Angeles to
> Heathrow at around 3:00 PM. The following afternoon, we need to get to
> Stansted for a flight to Spain. Here is how I'm planning to manage
> this:
>
> Arrive at London Heathrow. Take the Heathrow Express to Paddington
> station and stay overnight in or around Sussex Gardens (near Paddington
> Station and an area I'm quite familiar and comfortable with.) Question:
> is taking the Tube substantially cheaper? I saw on the website that the
> fares had gone up and it looks to take about an hour or more, whereas
> the HE takes only 20 minutes. Opinions?
>
> Saturday we need to get to Stansted for our flight which I believe
> leaves around 5:00 PM. From my research it seems that there isn't much
> to do in that area so I thought we'd just bum around London for a bit
> in the morning and then catch the Tube. How far is the underground
> station from the airport? Will that require a cab ride or is it
> reasonable walking distance (which for us would be maybe 8-10 blocks.)
> Stansted is a whole new experience for me, so any help in this area
> would be much appreciated. Plus, I've never arrived on a weekend so I'm
> wondering how different the flow of airport traffic will be.
>
> Is there anything I've left out or should consider in this plan I've
> currently organized?
> Thanks so much in advance to anyone who can offer their advice!
>
> Jen
How many people are travelling?
