SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
Nov 12th 2003, 4:16 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
"Bob C" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> And the use of
>> > Peking and Bombay is nothing short of a colonialist attempt to
>> > retain control of independant nations.
>> Oh, and that's the reason why the French call London 'Londres', is
>> it?
>
> Peking was never a British colony either, though Lord Elgin did go up
> and burn the summer palace.
> Peking was just an attempt to render the capital of the middle country
> phonetically in English from I think the cantonese dialect.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
Colonialism
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>
> "Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> And the use of
>> > Peking and Bombay is nothing short of a colonialist attempt to
>> > retain control of independant nations.
>> Oh, and that's the reason why the French call London 'Londres', is
>> it?
>
> Peking was never a British colony either, though Lord Elgin did go up
> and burn the summer palace.
> Peking was just an attempt to render the capital of the middle country
> phonetically in English from I think the cantonese dialect.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
Colonialism
Nov 12th 2003, 4:24 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
In news:Xns94317C9696412225stellarcomca...216.148.227.77, jcoulter
typed:
> "Bob C" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>> "Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > And the use of
>>>> Peking and Bombay is nothing short of a colonialist attempt to
>>>> retain control of independant nations.
>>> Oh, and that's the reason why the French call London 'Londres', is
>>> it?
>> Peking was never a British colony either, though Lord Elgin did go up
>> and burn the summer palace.
>> Peking was just an attempt to render the capital of the middle
>> country phonetically in English from I think the cantonese dialect.
>> Bob
> While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
> will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
> this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
> Colonialism
The change from Peking to Beijing is because the chinese government decided
to standardise on Manderin pronounciations instead of the local dialect
(Cantonese in Beijing's case I think) the name hasn't changed, it's still
spelt the same in chinese writing. Peking to Beijing is nothing to what
happened to Canton... Guangzhou.
--
Chris *<:-)
Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!
www.suffolkvikings.org.uk
typed:
> "Bob C" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>> "Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > And the use of
>>>> Peking and Bombay is nothing short of a colonialist attempt to
>>>> retain control of independant nations.
>>> Oh, and that's the reason why the French call London 'Londres', is
>>> it?
>> Peking was never a British colony either, though Lord Elgin did go up
>> and burn the summer palace.
>> Peking was just an attempt to render the capital of the middle
>> country phonetically in English from I think the cantonese dialect.
>> Bob
> While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
> will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
> this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
> Colonialism
The change from Peking to Beijing is because the chinese government decided
to standardise on Manderin pronounciations instead of the local dialect
(Cantonese in Beijing's case I think) the name hasn't changed, it's still
spelt the same in chinese writing. Peking to Beijing is nothing to what
happened to Canton... Guangzhou.
--
Chris *<:-)
Downhill Good, Uphill BAD!
www.suffolkvikings.org.uk
Nov 12th 2003, 4:49 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
> I am using the SNCF site very regularly (5 to 10 times a year) for
> travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and always
> found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go through
> them. You can probably choose to have your tickets delivered by mail
> to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
*not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
> travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and always
> found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go through
> them. You can probably choose to have your tickets delivered by mail
> to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
*not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Nov 12th 2003, 4:50 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
Thanks for the info; my information is based on my travels during July &
September, and on the trains I rode, they most certainly didn't allow
"extras" to board.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"David Off" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > I've heard that these TGVs are very crowded, expensive, and difficult
> > > to get tickets for, so a few questions:
> >
> > Not my experience at all! Crowded? If you consider a full car crowded,
> > sure, all seats may be taken, but as far as I know, they don't allow
> > non-seated riders (no standing-room-only situations).
> That's not true. Grand Voyager can board any train they like, also
> you can be on 'overbooking' - I think this is around 4 people per
> coach. Also people just jump aboard, on peak periods they have staff
> to stop this. They will usually stand between the corridors but
> evenings out of Paris can be real chaos if you want luggage space for
> lots of ski gear... arrive 30 minutes before the train leaves to make
> you life easier. I've been on a train with seating for 800 that
> actually had 1200 people on board due to a cancellation of the
> preceeding train due to the weather conditions.
> Fridays and Saturdays to the ski resorts can be a bit crazy but it
> generally works out okay in my experience.
> > Difficult to get tickets for? Not my experience
> > at all... you just go into any SNCF station for standard tickets...
> You should reserve your tickets at least 2 weeks, and possibly and
> month in advance. Since the 35 hour week was introduced it has been
> much more difficult to get tickets from Paris.
> If you want the best price reserve the second the seats are available
> 2 months in advance. You can get the tickets sent to you in the UK I
> think if you order through the SNCF. Quite a lot of staff speak
> English and there is the web site.
> > I believe they offer tickets only 90 days in advance.
> No it is two months, even with my Carte de Grand Voyager.
September, and on the trains I rode, they most certainly didn't allow
"extras" to board.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"David Off" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]. com>...
> > > I've heard that these TGVs are very crowded, expensive, and difficult
> > > to get tickets for, so a few questions:
> >
> > Not my experience at all! Crowded? If you consider a full car crowded,
> > sure, all seats may be taken, but as far as I know, they don't allow
> > non-seated riders (no standing-room-only situations).
> That's not true. Grand Voyager can board any train they like, also
> you can be on 'overbooking' - I think this is around 4 people per
> coach. Also people just jump aboard, on peak periods they have staff
> to stop this. They will usually stand between the corridors but
> evenings out of Paris can be real chaos if you want luggage space for
> lots of ski gear... arrive 30 minutes before the train leaves to make
> you life easier. I've been on a train with seating for 800 that
> actually had 1200 people on board due to a cancellation of the
> preceeding train due to the weather conditions.
> Fridays and Saturdays to the ski resorts can be a bit crazy but it
> generally works out okay in my experience.
> > Difficult to get tickets for? Not my experience
> > at all... you just go into any SNCF station for standard tickets...
> You should reserve your tickets at least 2 weeks, and possibly and
> month in advance. Since the 35 hour week was introduced it has been
> much more difficult to get tickets from Paris.
> If you want the best price reserve the second the seats are available
> 2 months in advance. You can get the tickets sent to you in the UK I
> think if you order through the SNCF. Quite a lot of staff speak
> English and there is the web site.
> > I believe they offer tickets only 90 days in advance.
> No it is two months, even with my Carte de Grand Voyager.
Nov 12th 2003, 5:54 am
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OT: Beijing/Peking and other places
"jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
> will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
> this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
> Colonialism
I think that in the case of Beijing and Peking the imperialism/colonialism
issue isn't so much a problem of the West imposing itself on the East as it
is China trying to impose itself on its neighbours and the rest of the
world. In order that Westerners can read Chinese without learning all the
characters it's necessary to have a romanised spelling of the characters.
The original generally accepted way of doing this was the Wade-Giles system
and, using this system, we got the spelling 'Peking' for the Chinese capital
city. The Chinese government adopted another system, pinyin, in the late
1970s and the capital city is spelled 'Beijing' in pinyin. Since its
introduction in China pinyin has been adopted in most parts of the world as
the method of spelling Chinese words in Roman script.
This isn't the end of the story, though. Pinyin isn't the only alternative
way of spelling Chinese words and there are even different forms of pinyin.
For years, Taiwan, trying to maintain an identity that is independent of
mainland China's, has been arguing over whether it should use the mainland
pinyin or not. I believe it was also an issue in Hong Kong in the run up to
the transfer of power. Chris Patten, Governor at the time of the transfer,
implies that he was criticised by the Chinese for offending the mainland
when he used 'Peking' instead of 'Beijing'. His point is that 'Peking' is
the English word for the Chinese capital.
And this is the point, isn't it? If the Germans decided to changed their
language rules by removing the umlauts what effect would that have on
English speakers? If the Germans started writing Muenchen or Koeln would we
stop saying Munich and Cologne? Of course not. The Italians aren't
offended when we refer to Rome or Naples, the Belgians aren't offended when
we refer to Brussels or Antwerp and the Portuguese aren't offended when we
refer to Lisbon. I'm certainly not offended when the French refer to
Londres or Douvres. So why should the Chinese be offended when we don't
call their capital city Beijing? And why should any English speaker get
bothered by it at all?
I don't think any country should tell another how to speak its language. I
object when the Chinese Communist Party tries to tell me how to speak
English - I've never tried to tell them how to speak Chinese.
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Michael MacClancy
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> While the majority seem to speak Mandarin and pronounce it Beijing. (I
> will cede the nominal territorial control issue though IIRC there was
> this matter called the Opium Wars that smacked of Imperialism if not
> Colonialism
I think that in the case of Beijing and Peking the imperialism/colonialism
issue isn't so much a problem of the West imposing itself on the East as it
is China trying to impose itself on its neighbours and the rest of the
world. In order that Westerners can read Chinese without learning all the
characters it's necessary to have a romanised spelling of the characters.
The original generally accepted way of doing this was the Wade-Giles system
and, using this system, we got the spelling 'Peking' for the Chinese capital
city. The Chinese government adopted another system, pinyin, in the late
1970s and the capital city is spelled 'Beijing' in pinyin. Since its
introduction in China pinyin has been adopted in most parts of the world as
the method of spelling Chinese words in Roman script.
This isn't the end of the story, though. Pinyin isn't the only alternative
way of spelling Chinese words and there are even different forms of pinyin.
For years, Taiwan, trying to maintain an identity that is independent of
mainland China's, has been arguing over whether it should use the mainland
pinyin or not. I believe it was also an issue in Hong Kong in the run up to
the transfer of power. Chris Patten, Governor at the time of the transfer,
implies that he was criticised by the Chinese for offending the mainland
when he used 'Peking' instead of 'Beijing'. His point is that 'Peking' is
the English word for the Chinese capital.
And this is the point, isn't it? If the Germans decided to changed their
language rules by removing the umlauts what effect would that have on
English speakers? If the Germans started writing Muenchen or Koeln would we
stop saying Munich and Cologne? Of course not. The Italians aren't
offended when we refer to Rome or Naples, the Belgians aren't offended when
we refer to Brussels or Antwerp and the Portuguese aren't offended when we
refer to Lisbon. I'm certainly not offended when the French refer to
Londres or Douvres. So why should the Chinese be offended when we don't
call their capital city Beijing? And why should any English speaker get
bothered by it at all?
I don't think any country should tell another how to speak its language. I
object when the Chinese Communist Party tries to tell me how to speak
English - I've never tried to tell them how to speak Chinese.
___
Michael MacClancy
Nov 12th 2003, 8:07 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
Ulf Kutzner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Saroff schrieb:
>
> > I am going to Val D'Isere in March and was planning on beginning and
> > ending my trip in Paris. I am likely going to take the TGV down and
> > back on the twin Saturday's that bookend my trips.
> >
Sorry if this is a dupe I got an error when I tried to post.
If you want to book as early as you can at midnight French time you
can then book on the trains exactly 2 months ahead. SNCF's website is
in English so this is quite easy.
Consider going overnight, it is generally cheaper and gets to to Val
before the lifts open, you can also ski until the lifts close the
night you leave if you go back overnight
http://www.satobus-alps.com/english/ runs buses from Bourg to Val you
may find it useful when it opens in December.
> Saroff schrieb:
>
> > I am going to Val D'Isere in March and was planning on beginning and
> > ending my trip in Paris. I am likely going to take the TGV down and
> > back on the twin Saturday's that bookend my trips.
> >
Sorry if this is a dupe I got an error when I tried to post.
If you want to book as early as you can at midnight French time you
can then book on the trains exactly 2 months ahead. SNCF's website is
in English so this is quite easy.
Consider going overnight, it is generally cheaper and gets to to Val
before the lifts open, you can also ski until the lifts close the
night you leave if you go back overnight
http://www.satobus-alps.com/english/ runs buses from Bourg to Val you
may find it useful when it opens in December.
Nov 12th 2003, 8:41 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Thanks for the info; my information is based on my travels during July &
> September, and on the trains I rode, they most certainly didn't allow
> "extras" to board.
But as you said, it is a pretty good way to travel, just need to get to
the station in good time and book in advance. Normally any extras are
confined between the carriages so are not a big issue to those seated.
the 'overbooked' passengers in theory have seats between the carriages,
not the most comfortable but not standing which I maybe implied. Apart
from that there are usually 2 or 3 people per carriage who just jump on
at peak times... again not a big problem if you can stay put for 3 hours.
And just think, every time a non-French taxpayer travels about 25% of
their ticket is paid for by people like me!
> Thanks for the info; my information is based on my travels during July &
> September, and on the trains I rode, they most certainly didn't allow
> "extras" to board.
But as you said, it is a pretty good way to travel, just need to get to
the station in good time and book in advance. Normally any extras are
confined between the carriages so are not a big issue to those seated.
the 'overbooked' passengers in theory have seats between the carriages,
not the most comfortable but not standing which I maybe implied. Apart
from that there are usually 2 or 3 people per carriage who just jump on
at peak times... again not a big problem if you can stay put for 3 hours.
And just think, every time a non-French taxpayer travels about 25% of
their ticket is paid for by people like me!
Nov 12th 2003, 9:00 am
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Re: Beijing/Peking and other places
"Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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><snip - Peking/Beijing>
Should one now refer to those dogs as Beijingese?
Zimbabwean Ridgeback, anyone? Mumbai Duck?
Regards
Jonathan
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><snip - Peking/Beijing>
Should one now refer to those dogs as Beijingese?
Zimbabwean Ridgeback, anyone? Mumbai Duck?
Regards
Jonathan
Nov 12th 2003, 11:06 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> > I am using the SNCF site very regularly (5 to 10 times a year) for
> > travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and always
> > found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go through
> > them. You can probably choose to have your tickets delivered by mail
> > to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to...
but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to
handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
Not a contract but AFAIK SNCF is the owner of,at least part of it,
RailEurope which explains why they don't want to compete with their daughter
company ?
news:[email protected]...
> > I am using the SNCF site very regularly (5 to 10 times a year) for
> > travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and always
> > found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go through
> > them. You can probably choose to have your tickets delivered by mail
> > to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to...
but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to
handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
Not a contract but AFAIK SNCF is the owner of,at least part of it,
RailEurope which explains why they don't want to compete with their daughter
company ?
Nov 12th 2003, 11:12 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> > I am using the SNCF site very regularly (5 to 10 times a year) for
>> > travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and
>> > always found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go
>> > through them. You can probably choose to have your tickets
>> > delivered by mail to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
>> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent
>> to...
> but
>> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to
> handle
>> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from
>> the US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
> Not a contract but AFAIK SNCF is the owner of,at least part of it,
> RailEurope which explains why they don't want to compete with their
> daughter company ?
>
>
>
Never the less one can easily buy tickets from NA through SNCF either
over the phone or on the web site (indicate France as country of sale
and ticket pick up in France)
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> > I am using the SNCF site very regularly (5 to 10 times a year) for
>> > travelling from Brussels to either Paris, Geneva or Cluses, and
>> > always found them very professionnal. I would encourage you to go
>> > through them. You can probably choose to have your tickets
>> > delivered by mail to you in NYC or waiting you in Paris.
>> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent
>> to...
> but
>> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to
> handle
>> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from
>> the US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
> Not a contract but AFAIK SNCF is the owner of,at least part of it,
> RailEurope which explains why they don't want to compete with their
> daughter company ?
>
>
>
Never the less one can easily buy tickets from NA through SNCF either
over the phone or on the web site (indicate France as country of sale
and ticket pick up in France)
Nov 12th 2003, 6:53 pm
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
>
> Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
tickets in France" option.
Best Regards,
Dominique Foucart
www.samoens.int.ms - hiking, skiing and appartment rental in Haute
Savoie
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
>
> Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
tickets in France" option.
Best Regards,
Dominique Foucart
www.samoens.int.ms - hiking, skiing and appartment rental in Haute
Savoie
Nov 12th 2003, 8:46 pm
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
Carl_M schrieb:
> > > I am going to Val D'Isere in March and was planning on beginning and
> > > ending my trip in Paris. I am likely going to take the TGV down and
> > > back on the twin Saturday's that bookend my trips.
> > >
> Sorry if this is a dupe I got an error when I tried to post.
True error - can't see any dupe.
> Consider going overnight, it is generally cheaper and gets to to Val
> before the lifts open,
The are overnight TGVs (only seats!) and clasic overnighters with
couchettes.
Regatds, ULF
> > > I am going to Val D'Isere in March and was planning on beginning and
> > > ending my trip in Paris. I am likely going to take the TGV down and
> > > back on the twin Saturday's that bookend my trips.
> > >
> Sorry if this is a dupe I got an error when I tried to post.
True error - can't see any dupe.
> Consider going overnight, it is generally cheaper and gets to to Val
> before the lifts open,
The are overnight TGVs (only seats!) and clasic overnighters with
couchettes.
Regatds, ULF
Nov 12th 2003, 10:41 pm
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] om>...
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
>
> Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
tickets in France" option.
Best Regards,
Dominique Foucart
www.samoens.int.ms - hiking, skiing and appartment rental in Haute
Savoie
> The SNCF site lists a zillion countries you can have tickets sent to... but
> *not* the US. It appears they may have a contract with RailEurope to handle
> sales to the US. If there is a way to deal with SNCF directly (from the
> US), please let me know... I'd love to take advantage of it!
>
> Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
tickets in France" option.
Best Regards,
Dominique Foucart
www.samoens.int.ms - hiking, skiing and appartment rental in Haute
Savoie
Nov 15th 2003, 6:25 am
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Re: SNCF March Tickets to the Alps
> > Perhaps there's a way to order on-line and pick them up in France?
> >
>
> Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
> in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
> tickets in France" option.
>
You can also print your own ticket, the ticket will have your name and
date of birth and you need to show photo id when you board the train.
I've printed my ticket but not used it yet so I don't know how it will
work but I dont see a problem.
> >
>
> Indeed... you can order your tickets online and have them waiting you
> in your Paris departure station (Gare de Lyon). Just use the "pick-up
> tickets in France" option.
>
You can also print your own ticket, the ticket will have your name and
date of birth and you need to show photo id when you board the train.
I've printed my ticket but not used it yet so I don't know how it will
work but I dont see a problem.
