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Manish Aswani Aug 31st 2004 1:57 am

Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
Hi,

I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.

Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
- Schengen Visa (Business)
- for an Indian citizen
- with Single-Entry visa

Travel Plan: Mumbai - Copenhagen - Madrid - Copenhagen - Mumbai.

Mumbai - Copenhagen: 3rd September
Copenhagen - Madrid: 11 September
Madrid - Copenhagen: 12 September
Copenhagen - Mumbai: 25 September


I appreciate any help.
Manish Aswani

Keith Willshaw Aug 31st 2004 2:05 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
    > Hi,
    > I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    > answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    > travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    > Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    > - Schengen Visa (Business)
    > - for an Indian citizen
    > - with Single-Entry visa
    > Travel Plan: Mumbai - Copenhagen - Madrid - Copenhagen - Mumbai.
    > Mumbai - Copenhagen: 3rd September
    > Copenhagen - Madrid: 11 September
    > Madrid - Copenhagen: 12 September
    > Copenhagen - Mumbai: 25 September

I dont see why it should be. Both Madrid and
Copenhagen are in the Schengen area. I presume
you are planning to fly direct from Copenhagen
to Madrid.

If you were to travel via a non Schengen country
such as the UK that could be a problem

Keith




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Lennart Petersen Aug 31st 2004 2:43 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected] m...
    > Hi,
    > I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    > answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    > travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    > Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    > - Schengen Visa (Business)
    > - for an Indian citizen
    > - with Single-Entry visa
Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any restrictions
(such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued by
the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the validity is
extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to spend
most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only. You're
perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for example not
Switzerland nor U.K

nitram Aug 31st 2004 3:11 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:43:57 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >news:[email protected] om...
    >> Hi,
    >> I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    >> answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    >> travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    >> Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    >> - Schengen Visa (Business)
    >> - for an Indian citizen
    >> - with Single-Entry visa
    >Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any restrictions
    >(such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
    >In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued by
    >the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the validity is
    >extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
    >advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to spend
    >most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only. You're
    >perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
    >Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for example not
    >Switzerland nor U.K

Airlines won't allow you to check in without a valid visa, if needed,
for the destination country.

Alex2k Aug 31st 2004 6:42 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    > news:[email protected] m...
    >> Hi,
    >> I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    >> answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    >> travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    >> Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    >> - Schengen Visa (Business)
    >> - for an Indian citizen
    >> - with Single-Entry visa
    > Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any restrictions
    > (such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
    > In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued by
    > the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the validity
    > is
    > extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
    > advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to spend
    > most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only. You're
    > perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
    > Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for example
    > not
    > Switzerland nor U.K
    >

Sjoerd Aug 31st 2004 6:43 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected] m...
    > Hi,
    > I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    > answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    > travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    > Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    > - Schengen Visa (Business)
    > - for an Indian citizen
    > - with Single-Entry visa
    > Travel Plan: Mumbai - Copenhagen - Madrid - Copenhagen - Mumbai.
    > Mumbai - Copenhagen: 3rd September
    > Copenhagen - Madrid: 11 September
    > Madrid - Copenhagen: 12 September
    > Copenhagen - Mumbai: 25 September

This is OK if
- the visa is valid for "Schengen countries" (check the visa) or specifies
that it is valid for both Denmark and Spain;
and
- you fly from Copenhagen to Madrid non-stop or via another Schengen
country.

Sjoerd

Markku Grönroos Aug 31st 2004 6:47 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Alex2k" <[email protected]> kirjoitti viestissä
news:[email protected]...
    > the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not

Bull. Norway and Iceland ARE Schengen countries while the UK is not.

nitram Aug 31st 2004 6:51 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:42:33 +0200, "Alex2k"
<[email protected]> wrote:


    >"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> "Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >> news:[email protected] m...
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    >>> answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    >>> travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    >>> Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    >>> - Schengen Visa (Business)
    >>> - for an Indian citizen
    >>> - with Single-Entry visa
    >> Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any restrictions
    >> (such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
    >> In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued by
    >> the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the validity
    >> is
    >> extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
    >> advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to spend
    >> most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only. You're
    >> perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
    >> Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for example
    >> not
    >> Switzerland nor U.K

    >the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not

UK is not Schengen, the other three aren't even members of the EU.

S Viemeister Aug 31st 2004 7:01 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
Alex2k wrote:
    >
    > the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
    >
Perhaps you are confusing EU and Schengen?
I don't believe that the UK is in Schengen. It is, though, in the EU.

Sjoerd Aug 31st 2004 7:01 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
<[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:42:33 +0200, "Alex2k"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >>
    > >> "Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    > >> news:[email protected] m...
    > >>> Hi,
    > >>>
    > >>> I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    > >>> answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    > >>> travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    > >>>
    > >>> Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    > >>> - Schengen Visa (Business)
    > >>> - for an Indian citizen
    > >>> - with Single-Entry visa
    > >> Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any
restrictions
    > >> (such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
    > >> In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued
by
    > >> the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the
validity
    > >> is
    > >> extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
    > >> advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to
spend
    > >> most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only.
You're
    > >> perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
    > >> Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for
example
    > >> not
    > >> Switzerland nor U.K
    > >the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
    > UK is not Schengen, the other three aren't even members of the EU.

But Norway and Iceland *are* Schengen countries and Switzerland is expected
to join Schengen within the next two years or so.

Sjoerd

nitram Aug 31st 2004 7:02 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:47:20 +0300, "Markku Grönroos"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Alex2k" <[email protected]> kirjoitti viestissä
    >news:[email protected]. ..
    >> the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
    >Bull. Norway and Iceland ARE Schengen countries while the UK is not.

http://www.eurovisa.info/SchengenCountries.htm

The 15 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,
France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands,
Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. All these countries except Norway
and Iceland are European Union members.



Traveling in Europe has been simplified with the introduction of the
Schengen visa. As a visitor to the Schengen area, you will enjoy the
many advantages of this unified visa system.

With a Schengen visa, you may enter one country and travel freely
throughout the Schengen zone. Internal border controls have
disappeared; there are no or few stops and checks. This means that
internal air, road and train travel are handled as domestic trips,
similar to travel from one US state to another. Those who traveled in
Europe before Schengen know the difference.

nitram Aug 31st 2004 7:15 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:01:52 +0200, "Sjoerd"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    ><[email protected]> schreef in bericht
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:42:33 +0200, "Alex2k"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> >news:[email protected]...
    >> >>
    >> >> "Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >> >> news:[email protected] m...
    >> >>> Hi,
    >> >>>
    >> >>> I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    >> >>> answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    >> >>> travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    >> >>> - Schengen Visa (Business)
    >> >>> - for an Indian citizen
    >> >>> - with Single-Entry visa
    >> >> Assuming you've a normal visa for Denmark, not indicating any
    >restrictions
    >> >> (such as "valid for Denmark only" or so ) this trip is feasible.
    >> >> In fact there's no such thing as a Schengen-visa , the visas is issued
    >by
    >> >> the individual countries in the Schengen region but normally the
    >validity
    >> >> is
    >> >> extended to all other countries in the Schengen area. Normally you're
    >> >> advised to apply for a visa in the country where you're supposed to
    >spend
    >> >> most of the time but that could be seen as a recommendation only.
    >You're
    >> >> perfectly right with a visa for Denmark.
    >> >> Single entry means you can't do side trips outside Schengen ,for
    >example
    >> >> not
    >> >> Switzerland nor U.K
    >> >the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
    >> UK is not Schengen, the other three aren't even members of the EU.
    >But Norway and Iceland *are* Schengen countries

Yes see my other post.

Keith Willshaw Aug 31st 2004 7:21 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Alex2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not

Wrong

Keith

Alec Aug 31st 2004 9:22 am

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Alex2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > the U.K is a Schengen. Switzerland, norway, iceland etc are not
UK (and Ireland), while not signatories to the full Schengen treaty on
abolition of border control and common visa etc, still participate in some
aspects of Schengen treaty like co-operation on police and judicial work
(mainly on the basis of EU membership).
Official policy by British Foreign Office:
http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?...=1007029392367

Alec

Manish Aswani Aug 31st 2004 3:53 pm

Re: Schengen Visa Single Entry question
 
"Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Manish Aswani" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
    > news:[email protected] m...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I have spent a lot of time on the web and groups trying to find an
    > > answer to this. Also, the opinions of the Danish consulates and the
    > > travel agents differ (dunno why). So pls help me with this.
    > >
    > > Please let me know if the following travel plan is valid with
    > > - Schengen Visa (Business)
    > > - for an Indian citizen
    > > - with Single-Entry visa
    > >
    > > Travel Plan: Mumbai - Copenhagen - Madrid - Copenhagen - Mumbai.
    > >
    > > Mumbai - Copenhagen: 3rd September
    > > Copenhagen - Madrid: 11 September
    > > Madrid - Copenhagen: 12 September
    > > Copenhagen - Mumbai: 25 September
    >
    > This is OK if
    > - the visa is valid for "Schengen countries" (check the visa) or specifies
    > that it is valid for both Denmark and Spain;
    > and
    > - you fly from Copenhagen to Madrid non-stop or via another Schengen
    > country.
    >
    > Sjoerd


Thanks a lot guys. We are pretty much on the same lines.

Do we have access to some concrete documentation/references/links that
can explicitly support this? I have tried to scan links on the
Schengen treaty,explanation of the visa form, etc., but all futile.
http://www.eurovisa.info looked the master site but no info on
single/multiple entries there.

For people having a confusion about UK/Norway/Switzerland, you will
find some good info on EuroVisa.info.

Thanks a lot.
Manish Aswani.


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