Kevin

I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is it
better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?
How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?
For 2 travelers, is it better to take a taxicab, bus or train from Rimini to
San Marino?

Tile

first of all. there is no train from Rimini to San marino. as the old
railways was bombed by the allied air forces..
and was never rebuilt.
from Bologna to san marino I would recommend hiring a car.
it is about 140 to 150 kms from bologna to San marino
( all route details are in www.viamichelin.it)
calculate about 1.40 minutes from Bologna to Rimini.. by train. and another
30 minutes from Rimini to san marino by bus.
there is no possibility from Rimini to go to Florence by train.
I guess there is a secondary train route from cesena.
so. again. hire a car. go to san marino and if you have time go to San leo.
( another very interesting castle)
if you are looking for a hotel. you will find hundreds on the Rimini
Riviera.
the cost is about 30 to 50 eur full pension ( room and 3 meals a day )
if you do not want to consider hiring a car.
take a train from Bologna to Rimini
sleep in Rimini ( it is also a nice town with and old city centre with one
of the best Temples of Italy..
Tempio malatestiano by leon battista alberti. Also there is fresco with the
first reproduction if eyeglasses in art..
there is in rimini an archelogical museums.. with the medical instruments
found in the so called Villa of the Doctor..
an ancien villa destryoed by Gote barbarians,, where about 300 roman medical
instruments were found..
"Kevin" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    > I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is
it
    > better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
    > Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?
    > How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?
    > For 2 travelers, is it better to take a taxicab, bus or train from Rimini
to
    > San Marino?

Gianni Rondinini

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:53:27 -0700, "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is it
    >better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
    >Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?

i'd spend the night in san marino: if you're lucky and the weather is
good, san marino by night is very nice.

    >How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?

don't know, i live near and go there by car, but i don't think there
is any railway going from san marino to rimini. rimini-bologna by
train is quite fast if you take an eurostar/intercity/espresso
--slower if you get a "regionale" or "interregionale" train--.

if you avoid the rush hour when moving from san marino to rimini, it
will be *far* better because the road to rimini when there's heavy
traffic is a big --but not *so* big, and that's the problem-- parking
lot and chances are that you'll loose the train.

regards,
--
Gianni Rondinini
Icem s.r.l. - http://www.icem.it
Tel: +39 0545 78036
Fax: +39 0545 78727

B Vaughan

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:04:16 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >first of all. there is no train from Rimini to San marino. as the old
    >railways was bombed by the allied air forces..
    >and was never rebuilt.
    >from Bologna to san marino I would recommend hiring a car.
    >it is about 140 to 150 kms from bologna to San marino
    >( all route details are in www.viamichelin.it)
    >calculate about 1.40 minutes from Bologna to Rimini.. by train. and another
    >30 minutes from Rimini to san marino by bus.
    >there is no possibility from Rimini to go to Florence by train.

There is no direct train, but you could go from Rimini to Bologna by
train, and change there for a train to Florence.

    >I guess there is a secondary train route from cesena.
    >so. again. hire a car. go to san marino and if you have time go to San leo.
    >( another very interesting castle)

I actually prefer San Leo to San Marino.

    >if you do not want to consider hiring a car.
    >take a train from Bologna to Rimini
    >sleep in Rimini ( it is also a nice town with and old city centre with one
    >of the best Temples of Italy..
    >Tempio malatestiano by leon battista alberti. Also there is fresco with the
    >first reproduction if eyeglasses in art..
    >there is in rimini an archelogical museums.. with the medical instruments
    >found in the so called Villa of the Doctor..
    >an ancien villa destryoed by Gote barbarians,, where about 300 roman medical
    >instruments were found..

Since San Marino is so close to Rimini, I would suggest staying
overnight there (or even in Bologna) rather than in San Marino. To
tell the truth, I wasn't particularly charmed by San Marino. If you
go, be sure to walk along the path that leads to the two other guard
towers. That was the best part of the visit for me.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Luca Logi

B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > There is no direct train, but you could go from Rimini to Bologna by
    > train, and change there for a train to Florence.

There is a couple of IR direct trains, Rimini-Florence and vv., via
Faenza/Borgo S.Lorenzo. The trip is 4 hours long and uses only
desperately slow local railways (very interesting to railfans, however).
Doing the same itinerary without using the direct trains means changing
two or three times along the route.

--
Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/ar/archivarius
(musicologia pratica)

Kevin

Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts of
Italy?

"tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > first of all. there is no train from Rimini to San marino. as the old
    > railways was bombed by the allied air forces..
    > and was never rebuilt.
    > from Bologna to san marino I would recommend hiring a car.
    > it is about 140 to 150 kms from bologna to San marino
    > ( all route details are in www.viamichelin.it)
    > calculate about 1.40 minutes from Bologna to Rimini.. by train. and
    > another
    > 30 minutes from Rimini to san marino by bus.
    > there is no possibility from Rimini to go to Florence by train.
    > I guess there is a secondary train route from cesena.
    > so. again. hire a car. go to san marino and if you have time go to San
    > leo.
    > ( another very interesting castle)
    > if you are looking for a hotel. you will find hundreds on the Rimini
    > Riviera.
    > the cost is about 30 to 50 eur full pension ( room and 3 meals a day )
    > if you do not want to consider hiring a car.
    > take a train from Bologna to Rimini
    > sleep in Rimini ( it is also a nice town with and old city centre with one
    > of the best Temples of Italy..
    > Tempio malatestiano by leon battista alberti. Also there is fresco with
    > the
    > first reproduction if eyeglasses in art..
    > there is in rimini an archelogical museums.. with the medical instruments
    > found in the so called Villa of the Doctor..
    > an ancien villa destryoed by Gote barbarians,, where about 300 roman
    > medical
    > instruments were found..
    > "Kevin" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is
    > it
    >> better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
    >> Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?
    >> How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?
    >> For 2 travelers, is it better to take a taxicab, bus or train from Rimini
    > to
    >> San Marino?
    >

Goerz

"Kevin" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is it
    >better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
    >Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?
    > How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?
    > For 2 travelers, is it better to take a taxicab, bus or train from Rimini
    > to San Marino?

There's no train from Rimini to San Marino, I suggest taking a taxicab.
Rimini has a much wider hotel availability than San Marino; on the other
hand, San Marino is completely empty at night: if the weather is fine, it
can be fascinating walking to the towers in solitude, when the tourist buses
are gone and the tacky shops are closed.
However, San Marino can keep you entertained only for a day, unless you
enjoy touring shopping malls. You could use San Marino as a base for
visiting nearby San Leo, a must-see if you are in the area, a secluded small
village on the top of a steep mountain with a very well preserved 16th
century fortress, an impressive view and a beautiful and gloomy medieval
church. This trip requires a car.
Regards,
Goerz

Anzov

"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:04:16 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:

<<Since San Marino is so close to Rimini, I would suggest staying
overnight there (or even in Bologna) rather than in San Marino.>>

There are great benefits to be had in Rimini. You will be able to buy your
"Sun" or "Guardian" from the local Newsagent and you will also be able to
get a pint of Watneys or Courage. The downside is, of course, that listening
to the people around you, you might wonder why you bothered going to Italy
in the first place.

A much nicer place to stay is Ravenna with much to see. The mosaics, from
the 5th and 6th centuary, are astounding and are definatly something that
should not be missed.

Frank F. Matthews

Driving is moderately expensive but parking isn't a problem. Like most
hill towns in Italy San Marino has a large car park with transport up to
the town.

Kevin wrote:

    > Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts of
    > Italy?
    >
    > "tile" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>first of all. there is no train from Rimini to San marino. as the old
    >>railways was bombed by the allied air forces..
    >>and was never rebuilt.
    >>from Bologna to san marino I would recommend hiring a car.
    >>it is about 140 to 150 kms from bologna to San marino
    >>( all route details are in www.viamichelin.it)
    >>calculate about 1.40 minutes from Bologna to Rimini.. by train. and
    >>another
    >>30 minutes from Rimini to san marino by bus.
    >>there is no possibility from Rimini to go to Florence by train.
    >>I guess there is a secondary train route from cesena.
    >>so. again. hire a car. go to san marino and if you have time go to San
    >>leo.
    >>( another very interesting castle)
    >>if you are looking for a hotel. you will find hundreds on the Rimini
    >>Riviera.
    >>the cost is about 30 to 50 eur full pension ( room and 3 meals a day )
    >>if you do not want to consider hiring a car.
    >>take a train from Bologna to Rimini
    >>sleep in Rimini ( it is also a nice town with and old city centre with one
    >>of the best Temples of Italy..
    >>Tempio malatestiano by leon battista alberti. Also there is fresco with
    >>the
    >>first reproduction if eyeglasses in art..
    >>there is in rimini an archelogical museums.. with the medical instruments
    >>found in the so called Villa of the Doctor..
    >>an ancien villa destryoed by Gote barbarians,, where about 300 roman
    >>medical
    >>instruments were found..
    >>"Kevin" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>>I plan to vist Bologna, San Marino and then continue on to Florence. Is
    >>it
    >>>better to stay overnight in San Marino or day trip to San Marino out of
    >>>Bologna and then continue on from Bologna to Florence?
    >>>How available is the transportation from Rimini to San Marino?
    >>>For 2 travelers, is it better to take a taxicab, bus or train from Rimini
    >>to
    >>>San Marino?
    >
    >

The Reids

Following up to Kevin

    >I plan to vist Bologna

not an answer to your question, but don't miss the covered walk
up to the hilltop
http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk/bologna3.htm"

you can see it snaking up the right hand side of the hill in the
background to the convent/monastry/church?, it starts pretty much
in the city centre!
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

The Reids

Following up to Kevin

    >Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts of
    >Italy?

depends on your perception of difficult. Italians are rather
competitive drivers and roads are crowded everywhere i have been
in northern Italy. As for expense, see what you think from a car
hire website (say Europcar). For parking in cities there will be
car parks, your hotel may have a private one. As long as you dont
think you will just be able to stop anywhere or that it will not
be a challenge to find your way to the city centre.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

Frank F. Matthews

The Reids wrote:

    > Following up to Kevin
    >
    >
    >>Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts of
    >>Italy?
    >
    >
    > depends on your perception of difficult. Italians are rather
    > competitive drivers and roads are crowded everywhere i have been
    > in northern Italy. As for expense, see what you think from a car
    > hire website (say Europcar). For parking in cities there will be
    > car parks, your hotel may have a private one. As long as you dont
    > think you will just be able to stop anywhere or that it will not
    > be a challenge to find your way to the city centre.



I suppose that it depends on the time of year but I didn't find the
roads very crowded last month. Competitive is a conservative view of
the drivers though. Almost as crazy as the Irish. It did work out
better once I figured out that those round signs with numbers were to
indicate the minimum speed.

Tile

In Bologna it is forbidden for cars to enter the centre unless you are a
resident.
and parking places in the central areas are also reserved to residents ( I
mean. even if you pay.. you cannot park.. )

In Rimini there is a zone reserved to pedestrians.. but parking places are
available near it.

In san marino there will be no problem parking a car.
naturally, you will have to pay.. but unless it is a crowded day. you will
have no problem.
"The Reids" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
    > Following up to Kevin
    > >Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts
of
    > >Italy?
    > depends on your perception of difficult. Italians are rather
    > competitive drivers and roads are crowded everywhere i have been
    > in northern Italy. As for expense, see what you think from a car
    > hire website (say Europcar). For parking in cities there will be
    > car parks, your hotel may have a private one. As long as you dont
    > think you will just be able to stop anywhere or that it will not
    > be a challenge to find your way to the city centre.
    > --
    > Mike Reid
    > Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can
email us@ this site
    > Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
spamtrap

Tile

In Bologna it is forbidden for cars to enter the centre unless you are a
resident.
and parking places in the central areas are also reserved to residents ( I
mean. even if you pay.. you cannot park.. )

In Rimini there is a zone reserved to pedestrians.. but parking places are
available near it.

In san marino there will be no problem parking a car.
naturally, you will have to pay.. but unless it is a crowded day. you will
have no problem.
"The Reids" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
    > Following up to Kevin
    > >Isn't it difficult and expensive to drive and park a car in these parts
of
    > >Italy?
    > depends on your perception of difficult. Italians are rather
    > competitive drivers and roads are crowded everywhere i have been
    > in northern Italy. As for expense, see what you think from a car
    > hire website (say Europcar). For parking in cities there will be
    > car parks, your hotel may have a private one. As long as you dont
    > think you will just be able to stop anywhere or that it will not
    > be a challenge to find your way to the city centre.
    > --
    > Mike Reid
    > Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can
email us@ this site
    > Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
spamtrap