Sacramento to London Options?
Sep 21st 2004, 3:25 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
> get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
> where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
> the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
Keith
> I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
> get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
> where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
> the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
Keith
Sep 21st 2004, 3:37 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:42 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
> >hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
> >worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>
> Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
> you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
> end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
> (depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
> much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
> Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
> narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
> lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
>
> What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
>
> Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
> I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
> it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
> in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
> airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
> trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
> platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
> Fremont or Dublin).
>
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Well, maybe we can avoid the traffic if we fly in and out on a
Saturday. Or also get an early morning departure before commute
traffic starts. Or an afternoon flight so we would be driving to SFO
after the morning rush and before the evening rush?
I'll look into the Amtrak/Bart options though. Since we don't live
right in Sacramento, we would need to also pay for a 25 mile taxi ride
to Amtrak station unless. The cost of that plus the train and Bart
tickets for 2 probably is not that much cheaper than the $80 one-way
car rental plus gas, if at all cheaper so it needs to a "better" way
to go if it doesn't save any money.
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:42 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
> >hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
> >worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>
> Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
> you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
> end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
> (depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
> much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
> Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
> narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
> lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
>
> What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
>
> Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
> I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
> it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
> in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
> airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
> trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
> platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
> Fremont or Dublin).
>
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Well, maybe we can avoid the traffic if we fly in and out on a
Saturday. Or also get an early morning departure before commute
traffic starts. Or an afternoon flight so we would be driving to SFO
after the morning rush and before the evening rush?
I'll look into the Amtrak/Bart options though. Since we don't live
right in Sacramento, we would need to also pay for a 25 mile taxi ride
to Amtrak station unless. The cost of that plus the train and Bart
tickets for 2 probably is not that much cheaper than the $80 one-way
car rental plus gas, if at all cheaper so it needs to a "better" way
to go if it doesn't save any money.
Sep 21st 2004, 3:59 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
> Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:42 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
>> >is a
>> >hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which
>> >is
>> >worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>> Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
>> you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
>> end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
>> (depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
>> much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
>> Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
>> narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
>> lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
>> What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
>> Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
>> I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
>> it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
>> in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
>> airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
>> trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
>> platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
>> Fremont or Dublin).
>> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
>> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
>> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
> Well, maybe we can avoid the traffic if we fly in and out on a
> Saturday. Or also get an early morning departure before commute
> traffic starts. Or an afternoon flight so we would be driving to SFO
> after the morning rush and before the evening rush?
Most flights to Europe leave between noon and 7 pm
Keith
news:[email protected] om...
> Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:42 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
>> >is a
>> >hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which
>> >is
>> >worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>> Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
>> you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
>> end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
>> (depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
>> much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
>> Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
>> narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
>> lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
>> What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
>> Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
>> I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
>> it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
>> in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
>> airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
>> trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
>> platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
>> Fremont or Dublin).
>> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
>> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
>> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
> Well, maybe we can avoid the traffic if we fly in and out on a
> Saturday. Or also get an early morning departure before commute
> traffic starts. Or an afternoon flight so we would be driving to SFO
> after the morning rush and before the evening rush?
Most flights to Europe leave between noon and 7 pm
Keith
Sep 21st 2004, 11:22 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
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In rec.travel.air Blake S <[email protected]> wrote:
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> When did Southwest start to interline???
They don't. SWA doesn't interline with anyone. If they had
their druthers, they'd do it with WJA, but I don't see that happening.
SWA has some 8 - 10 daily runs to LAS, the bulk of which would
get there prior to VIR43's arrival, and VIR44's departure (3 hour
turnaround for the 744). They could book KLAS-EGKK, and just have to
get to LAS.
> You might also want to consider using the BA flight out of Phoenix as there
> are sometimes good fares available. BA code shares with America West on the
> SMF-PHX segments.
That's another good route. I didn't know about AWE and BAW
codesharing either.
BL.
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In rec.travel.air Blake S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> When did Southwest start to interline???
They don't. SWA doesn't interline with anyone. If they had
their druthers, they'd do it with WJA, but I don't see that happening.
SWA has some 8 - 10 daily runs to LAS, the bulk of which would
get there prior to VIR43's arrival, and VIR44's departure (3 hour
turnaround for the 744). They could book KLAS-EGKK, and just have to
get to LAS.
> You might also want to consider using the BA flight out of Phoenix as there
> are sometimes good fares available. BA code shares with America West on the
> SMF-PHX segments.
That's another good route. I didn't know about AWE and BAW
codesharing either.
BL.
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Sep 22nd 2004, 4:45 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] (TS) wrote:
> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
FWIW former colleagues of mine who did the reverse trip frequently for
business always preferred the direct London-SF option.
[email protected] (TS) wrote:
> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
FWIW former colleagues of mine who did the reverse trip frequently for
business always preferred the direct London-SF option.
Sep 22nd 2004, 6:48 am
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
"Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
> > get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
> > where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
> > the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
> >
>
> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>
> Keith
I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
specific seat.
What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
an hour earlier than required?
How about United Airlines?
I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
from SFO.
There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
London by plane or train later.
If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
us better options to reserve specific seats?
> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
> > get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
> > where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
> > the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
> >
>
> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>
> Keith
I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
specific seat.
What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
an hour earlier than required?
How about United Airlines?
I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
from SFO.
There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
London by plane or train later.
If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
us better options to reserve specific seats?
Sep 22nd 2004, 7:11 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
AA via Dallas serves Gatwick; the other flights serve Heathrow (United and
AA via ORD; BA via PHX). That may make a difference, depending on where in
London you're actually headed.
All other things being equal, AA has a bit more room in economy, which is
nice on a long flight.
Jeff
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Blake S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] nk.net...
> >
> > "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Some intersting options.
> >> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
> >>
> >
> > I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about
PHX
> > to LON on BA?
> >
> Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if
it's
> any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
> >
> >> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
> >> option.
> >
> > Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
> >
> >
> > Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
> >> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
> >>
> >> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car
rental
> >> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
> > compact/economy
> >> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
> >> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
> >> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak
station
> >> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
> >>
> >> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
> >> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while
> >> toting
> >> checked luggage?
> >> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is
it
> >> more hassle?
> >> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
> >> is
> > a
> >> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which
is
> >> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
> >>
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July
2005?
> >> >
> >> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> >> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
> >> >
> >> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> >> > parking/leaving
> >> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> >> > depart
> >> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> >> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the
other.
> >> >
> >> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it
when
> >> > I
> >> > can.
> >> >
> >> > b.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
AA via ORD; BA via PHX). That may make a difference, depending on where in
London you're actually headed.
All other things being equal, AA has a bit more room in economy, which is
nice on a long flight.
Jeff
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Blake S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] nk.net...
> >
> > "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Some intersting options.
> >> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
> >>
> >
> > I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about
PHX
> > to LON on BA?
> >
> Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if
it's
> any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
> >
> >> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
> >> option.
> >
> > Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
> >
> >
> > Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
> >> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
> >>
> >> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car
rental
> >> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
> > compact/economy
> >> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
> >> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
> >> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak
station
> >> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
> >>
> >> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
> >> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while
> >> toting
> >> checked luggage?
> >> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is
it
> >> more hassle?
> >> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
> >> is
> > a
> >> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which
is
> >> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
> >>
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July
2005?
> >> >
> >> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> >> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
> >> >
> >> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> >> > parking/leaving
> >> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> >> > depart
> >> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> >> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the
other.
> >> >
> >> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it
when
> >> > I
> >> > can.
> >> >
> >> > b.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Sep 22nd 2004, 9:17 am
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
> specific seat.
> What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
> available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
> an hour earlier than required?
> How about United Airlines?
> I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
> from SFO.
> There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
> London by plane or train later.
> If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
> us better options to reserve specific seats?
Try booking it as a codeshare via the US airline partner, if possible. US
airlines are much nicer about that sort of thing (about all sorts of things
- can you tell I'm sick of mean, stingy European carriers?).
miguel
--
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> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
> specific seat.
> What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
> available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
> an hour earlier than required?
> How about United Airlines?
> I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
> from SFO.
> There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
> London by plane or train later.
> If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
> us better options to reserve specific seats?
Try booking it as a codeshare via the US airline partner, if possible. US
airlines are much nicer about that sort of thing (about all sorts of things
- can you tell I'm sick of mean, stingy European carriers?).
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 31 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Sep 22nd 2004, 9:44 am
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
[email protected] (TS) wrote in
news:[email protected] om:
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able
>> > to get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere
>> > else where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and
>> > reserve the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>> >
>>
>> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
>> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>>
>> Keith
>
> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
Try taling to a real person on their 800 line you will be able to at least
say yes or no to what is available.
news:[email protected] om:
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able
>> > to get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere
>> > else where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and
>> > reserve the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>> >
>>
>> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
>> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>>
>> Keith
>
> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
Try taling to a real person on their 800 line you will be able to at least
say yes or no to what is available.
Sep 22nd 2004, 5:49 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
In article <[email protected]>,
"Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
if you book far enough ahead (7+ weeks), you actually can for quite a
bit less
"Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
if you book far enough ahead (7+ weeks), you actually can for quite a
bit less
Sep 22nd 2004, 5:59 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
Assuming we fly BA, we've decided that World Traveller Plus on BA will be
the best deal at a discounted price under $1300 per person with 38" seat
pitch and power points for a laptop/portable DVD player.
"Not the Karl Orff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
>> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
> if you book far enough ahead (7+ weeks), you actually can for quite a
> bit less
the best deal at a discounted price under $1300 per person with 38" seat
pitch and power points for a laptop/portable DVD player.
"Not the Karl Orff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
>> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
> if you book far enough ahead (7+ weeks), you actually can for quite a
> bit less
Sep 22nd 2004, 6:59 pm
#27
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:17:22 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:
>TS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
>> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
>> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
>> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
>> specific seat.
>> What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
>> available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
>> an hour earlier than required?
>> How about United Airlines?
>> I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
>> from SFO.
>> There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
>> London by plane or train later.
>> If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
>> us better options to reserve specific seats?
>Try booking it as a codeshare via the US airline partner, if possible. US
>airlines are much nicer about that sort of thing (about all sorts of things
>- can you tell I'm sick of mean, stingy European carriers?).
Go on Miguel. Who was mean to you?
Is it not possible, that there is a link between the fact that the
'mean stingy' European carriers are generally in a better shape than
the 'generous' US carriers?
>miguel
--==++AJC++==--
wrote:
>TS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
>> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
>> I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
>> window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
>> specific seat.
>> What about BA? Can you reserve any seat location that is still
>> available online, via the phone or by showing up at the ticket counter
>> an hour earlier than required?
>> How about United Airlines?
>> I think those are the only 3 choices for non-stop flights to London
>> from SFO.
>> There is a possibility we could fly into Europe instead and go to
>> London by plane or train later.
>> If we fly into France, Germany etc. instead of London, will that give
>> us better options to reserve specific seats?
>Try booking it as a codeshare via the US airline partner, if possible. US
>airlines are much nicer about that sort of thing (about all sorts of things
>- can you tell I'm sick of mean, stingy European carriers?).
Go on Miguel. Who was mean to you?
Is it not possible, that there is a link between the fact that the
'mean stingy' European carriers are generally in a better shape than
the 'generous' US carriers?
>miguel
--==++AJC++==--
Sep 22nd 2004, 7:18 pm
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
> > I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> > www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> > I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> > window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
> > specific seat.
For *specific* seats you'll be better phoning the airline and asking.
Have your second and third choices to hand as well.
Hilary
> > www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
> > I noticed the Virgin Air website only allowed you to "request" either
> > window or aisle seats. It did not allow you to choose or reserve a
> > specific seat.
For *specific* seats you'll be better phoning the airline and asking.
Have your second and third choices to hand as well.
Hilary
Sep 22nd 2004, 8:39 pm
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
>> > get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
>> > where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
>> > the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>> >
>> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
>> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>> Keith
> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
A good travel agent can often reserve you specific seats.
Mine certainly does but as I said earlier the most desirable
seats are usually held back for high mileage frequent fliers
or those paying full coach fare.
Keith
news:[email protected] om...
> "Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
>> > get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
>> > where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
>> > the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>> >
>> Those seats tend to be reserved for frequent flyers or
>> those paying full coach fare not discounted tickets.
>> Keith
> I've seen the seat maps showing the most desireable seats on
> www.seatguru.com but it doesn't help if you cannot reserve them.
A good travel agent can often reserve you specific seats.
Mine certainly does but as I said earlier the most desirable
seats are usually held back for high mileage frequent fliers
or those paying full coach fare.
Keith
Sep 22nd 2004, 9:56 pm
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Re: Reserving specific Transatlantic seats in advance?
AJC wrote:
> Is it not possible, that there is a link between the fact that the
> 'mean stingy' European carriers are generally in a better shape than
> the 'generous' US carriers?
You have to agree that set pre-selection is far less common in airlines
outside of north america versus north american airlines (except low cost carriers).
Also, outside north america, luggage allowance is more restricted. (although
most airlines do provice the 2PC system for flights to/from north america).
So there is a case to say that european airlines are more stingy.
> Is it not possible, that there is a link between the fact that the
> 'mean stingy' European carriers are generally in a better shape than
> the 'generous' US carriers?
You have to agree that set pre-selection is far less common in airlines
outside of north america versus north american airlines (except low cost carriers).
Also, outside north america, luggage allowance is more restricted. (although
most airlines do provice the 2PC system for flights to/from north america).
So there is a case to say that european airlines are more stingy.
