Sacramento to London Options?
Sep 20th 2004, 5:47 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
On 20 Sep 2004 11:06:03 -0700, [email protected] (TS) wrote:
>What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
>(probably not worth the hassle).
You can also take the train from Sacramento to Richmaond and
switch to BART there to get to SFO.
>We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
>or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
>We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
>the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
>non-stop from LAX.
All of this sounds like more hassle than simply taking train and
BART to SFO and a non-stop from there.
>We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
>portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
>reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
>business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
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>What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
>(probably not worth the hassle).
You can also take the train from Sacramento to Richmaond and
switch to BART there to get to SFO.
>We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
>or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
>We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
>the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
>non-stop from LAX.
All of this sounds like more hassle than simply taking train and
BART to SFO and a non-stop from there.
>We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
>portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
>reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
>business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
http://www.travelocity.com
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Sep 20th 2004, 6:06 am
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Sacramento to London Options?
What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
(probably not worth the hassle).
We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
non-stop from LAX.
We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
(probably not worth the hassle).
We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
non-stop from LAX.
We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
Sep 20th 2004, 6:53 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
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In rec.travel.air TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
This might be the most cost effective, as long as you can avoid
the rush hour traffic going back into the Bay area. If you do, it's
only a 1 hour 15 minute drive.
> We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
You could take a UAL/SKW puddlehopper down to SFO, but it would
be more expensive than driving. Yes, you'd get there earlier, but
still, much more expensive, since you're looking for the best option.
> We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> non-stop from LAX.
Two choices with SWA. They still may have their $34
intra-California specials going on, which would get you to LAX cheaply,
then take a BAW/VIR/ANZ/AAL flight over. Second option is to take SWA
to LAS, and pick up VIR44 to EGKK/LGW. That's a daily flight now.
> We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
That shouldn't be much of a problem. It will just depend on
what type of equipment they'd be using. For that, check with the
airline. You'd more than likely have your choice of a 767, 747, 777,
A330 or A340, depending on the carrier's fleet.
BL.
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In rec.travel.air TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
This might be the most cost effective, as long as you can avoid
the rush hour traffic going back into the Bay area. If you do, it's
only a 1 hour 15 minute drive.
> We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
You could take a UAL/SKW puddlehopper down to SFO, but it would
be more expensive than driving. Yes, you'd get there earlier, but
still, much more expensive, since you're looking for the best option.
> We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> non-stop from LAX.
Two choices with SWA. They still may have their $34
intra-California specials going on, which would get you to LAX cheaply,
then take a BAW/VIR/ANZ/AAL flight over. Second option is to take SWA
to LAS, and pick up VIR44 to EGKK/LGW. That's a daily flight now.
> We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
That shouldn't be much of a problem. It will just depend on
what type of equipment they'd be using. For that, check with the
airline. You'd more than likely have your choice of a 767, 747, 777,
A330 or A340, depending on the carrier's fleet.
BL.
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Sep 20th 2004, 8:21 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
: What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
: We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
: (probably not worth the hassle).
I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs. parking/leaving
from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to depart
from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I can.
b.
: What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
: We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
: (probably not worth the hassle).
I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs. parking/leaving
from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to depart
from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I can.
b.
Sep 20th 2004, 11:06 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] (TS) wrote:
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
>
Well, it's very much a personal choice, but a non-stop flight seems to
me much less hassle than any connecting flight these days -- especially
given the comparative ease of the Sacto-to-SFO car trip, and the
reasonably good parking at SFO. The biggest downside to this approach
will be the parking charges if you're going to be gone some time.
You could also look into driving to Reno (slightly shorter? -- maybe)
and getting a Reno -> Denver -> London connection -- keeping in mind of
course that it snowed several inches on Donner Pass yesterday.
Also keep in mind that on the homeward trip you'll have to clear customs
at your first landing point, which can be tedious and means you have to
allow a long enough interval before any further connecting flight. At
that point my preference would be to hop in my own car, even with a 3
hour drive home, rather than face an airport and another flight before I
finally get to the car.
[email protected] (TS) wrote:
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
>
Well, it's very much a personal choice, but a non-stop flight seems to
me much less hassle than any connecting flight these days -- especially
given the comparative ease of the Sacto-to-SFO car trip, and the
reasonably good parking at SFO. The biggest downside to this approach
will be the parking charges if you're going to be gone some time.
You could also look into driving to Reno (slightly shorter? -- maybe)
and getting a Reno -> Denver -> London connection -- keeping in mind of
course that it snowed several inches on Donner Pass yesterday.
Also keep in mind that on the homeward trip you'll have to clear customs
at your first landing point, which can be tedious and means you have to
allow a long enough interval before any further connecting flight. At
that point my preference would be to hop in my own car, even with a 3
hour drive home, rather than face an airport and another flight before I
finally get to the car.
Sep 20th 2004, 12:01 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"A Guy Called Tyketto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In rec.travel.air TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > (probably not worth the hassle).
> This might be the most cost effective, as long as you can avoid
> the rush hour traffic going back into the Bay area. If you do, it's
> only a 1 hour 15 minute drive.
> > We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> > or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> You could take a UAL/SKW puddlehopper down to SFO, but it would
> be more expensive than driving. Yes, you'd get there earlier, but
> still, much more expensive, since you're looking for the best option.
> > We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> > the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> > non-stop from LAX.
> Two choices with SWA. They still may have their $34
> intra-California specials going on, which would get you to LAX cheaply,
> then take a BAW/VIR/ANZ/AAL flight over. Second option is to take SWA
> to LAS, and pick up VIR44 to EGKK/LGW. That's a daily flight now.
When did Southwest start to interline???
You might also want to consider using the BA flight out of Phoenix as there
are sometimes good fares available. BA code shares with America West on the
SMF-PHX segments.
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> In rec.travel.air TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > (probably not worth the hassle).
> This might be the most cost effective, as long as you can avoid
> the rush hour traffic going back into the Bay area. If you do, it's
> only a 1 hour 15 minute drive.
> > We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> > or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> You could take a UAL/SKW puddlehopper down to SFO, but it would
> be more expensive than driving. Yes, you'd get there earlier, but
> still, much more expensive, since you're looking for the best option.
> > We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> > the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> > non-stop from LAX.
> Two choices with SWA. They still may have their $34
> intra-California specials going on, which would get you to LAX cheaply,
> then take a BAW/VIR/ANZ/AAL flight over. Second option is to take SWA
> to LAS, and pick up VIR44 to EGKK/LGW. That's a daily flight now.
When did Southwest start to interline???
You might also want to consider using the BA flight out of Phoenix as there
are sometimes good fares available. BA code shares with America West on the
SMF-PHX segments.
Sep 20th 2004, 12:56 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
Some intersting options.
I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
option. Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
(about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a compact/economy
car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while toting
checked luggage?
I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
more hassle?
Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> : (probably not worth the hassle).
> I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> parking/leaving
> from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> depart
> from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
> SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I
> can.
> b.
>
I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
option. Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
(about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a compact/economy
car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while toting
checked luggage?
I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
more hassle?
Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> : (probably not worth the hassle).
> I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> parking/leaving
> from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> depart
> from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
> SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I
> can.
> b.
>
Sep 20th 2004, 1:33 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Some intersting options.
> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
to LON on BA?
> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
> option.
Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
compact/economy
> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while toting
> checked luggage?
> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
> more hassle?
> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is
a
> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
> >
> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> > parking/leaving
> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> > depart
> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
> >
> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I
> > can.
> >
> > b.
> >
news:[email protected]...
> Some intersting options.
> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
to LON on BA?
> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
> option.
Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
compact/economy
> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while toting
> checked luggage?
> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
> more hassle?
> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is
a
> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
> >
> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
> > parking/leaving
> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
> > depart
> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
> >
> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when I
> > can.
> >
> > b.
> >
Sep 20th 2004, 1:59 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"Blake S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Some intersting options.
>> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
> I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
> to LON on BA?
Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if it's
any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
>> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
>> option.
> Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
> Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
>> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
>> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
>> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
> compact/economy
>> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
>> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
>> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
>> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
>> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
>> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while
>> toting
>> checked luggage?
>> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
>> more hassle?
>> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
>> is
> a
>> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
>> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>> >
>> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
>> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
>> >
>> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
>> > parking/leaving
>> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
>> > depart
>> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
>> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
>> >
>> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when
>> > I
>> > can.
>> >
>> > b.
>> >
>
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> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Some intersting options.
>> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
> I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
> to LON on BA?
Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if it's
any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
>> So interlining with America West/Virgin directly from SMF could be an
>> option.
> Don't think so. BA has a code share flight SMF to LON.
> Not sure if there is any advantage of that over just flying UA or
>> AA from SMF connecting in Chicago or Dallas?
>> One option I didn't think of before would be to get a one-way car rental
>> (about $80 plus fuel at Hertz each way including taxes for a
> compact/economy
>> car) from Sacramento to SFO to avoid parking at SFO for 4-6 weeks.
>> Otherwise, Amtrak to Bart to SFO $14 Amtrak + $6 Bart?
>> Would also need to pay for cab ($50 from Sacto suburbs) to Amtrak station
>> downtown or hassle with luggage on a public bus.
>> How would a one-way car rental (perhaps needing to pick the car up the
>> evening before) compare with the ride to SFO Amtrak plus Bart while
>> toting
>> checked luggage?
>> I think the cab plus train plus Bart would be a little cheaper, but is it
>> more hassle?
>> Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO
>> is
> a
>> hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
>> worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In rec.travel.europe TS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > : What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
>> >
>> > : We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
>> > : (probably not worth the hassle).
>> >
>> > I would opt for a SMF departure to a connecting airport vs.
>> > parking/leaving
>> > from SFO. Parking is $7.00/day at SMF and it's a lot less hassle to
>> > depart
>> > from that airport. I did the same when I went to Madrid and took a
>> > connecting flight out of Atlanta on one direction and JFK on the other.
>> >
>> > SFO is a very busy, expensivve and intense airport and I avoid it when
>> > I
>> > can.
>> >
>> > b.
>> >
>
Sep 20th 2004, 4:38 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:56:42 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
>hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
>worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
(depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
Fremont or Dublin).
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wrote:
>Obtaining then driving a rental car in rush hour commute traffic to SFO is a
>hassle, but dealing with Amtrak and Bart is a different hassle. Which is
>worse for the Sacramento to SFO journey?
Frankly, there's no guarantee how long a drive would take. Once
you crosa the Carquinez Strait at Vallejo you came into the tail
end of the traffic backup from the Bay Bridge/Maze interchange
(depending on time of day)(well maybe I'm stretching it, but not
much). That drive from Vallejo through Berkely and across the Bay
Bridge can be downright ghastly (think of it as a very long
narrow parking lot). One accident somewhere on the Bay Bridge can
lead to taking an hour or more just crossing the Bridge.
What the train/BART connection gets you is a certain reliability.
Personally, I don't think of trains as much of a hassle, but then
I just got back from a summer of train riding in Europe. Anyway,
it's pretty straightforward: get on the train in Sacto, get off
in Richmond, walk through the station to BART and go to the
airport. I haven't looked it up; there may be a change of BART
trains required to reach SFO, but that's a matter of crossing the
platform in a BART station (just don't get on a BART going to
Fremont or Dublin).
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Sep 20th 2004, 4:41 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:59:13 -0700, "TS" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Blake S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] ink.net...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Some intersting options.
>>> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
>> I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
>> to LON on BA?
>Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if it's
>any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
I don't recall if you've said where you are going in London, but
you might give at least a thought to the other end of the trip
and whether Heathrow or Gatwick is a better place to arrive. They
both have train connections into London, and Heathrow also has
the Underground. This might affect the choice of airline and
departure airport in the USA.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>"Blake S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] ink.net...
>> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Some intersting options.
>>> I never knew about PHX to LON on Virgin Atlantic.
>> I never knew about that either. Are you sure you're not talking about PHX
>> to LON on BA?
>Oh, BA then. Either way. I guess it's another option. Don't know if it's
>any better or worse tha flying AA or UA SMF to London.
I don't recall if you've said where you are going in London, but
you might give at least a thought to the other end of the trip
and whether Heathrow or Gatwick is a better place to arrive. They
both have train connections into London, and Heathrow also has
the Underground. This might affect the choice of airline and
departure airport in the USA.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Sep 20th 2004, 7:00 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
You can also drive to Pleasanton and catch BART there. $7.10 for fare, and
the back of the BART ticket says you can call for reservations for extended
parking at BART for SFO and OAK trips. It is about 80 miles to Sac from
Pleasanton. And as to $3000 for business, should not be a problem. Me, I
am cheap and unless the company was paying, I go as reasonable as possible.
My tickets for SFO-ROM this month are $648 RT on Delta. "c" class. The
tickets for my adult children LAX-ROM are $700 and we all connect in
Cincinnati.
Bill
"Hatunen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 20 Sep 2004 11:06:03 -0700, [email protected] (TS) wrote:
> >What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> >We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> >(probably not worth the hassle).
> You can also take the train from Sacramento to Richmaond and
> switch to BART there to get to SFO.
> >We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> >or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> >
> >We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> >the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> >non-stop from LAX.
> All of this sounds like more hassle than simply taking train and
> BART to SFO and a non-stop from there.
> >We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> >portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> >reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> >business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
> http://www.travelocity.com
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
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> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
the back of the BART ticket says you can call for reservations for extended
parking at BART for SFO and OAK trips. It is about 80 miles to Sac from
Pleasanton. And as to $3000 for business, should not be a problem. Me, I
am cheap and unless the company was paying, I go as reasonable as possible.
My tickets for SFO-ROM this month are $648 RT on Delta. "c" class. The
tickets for my adult children LAX-ROM are $700 and we all connect in
Cincinnati.
Bill
"Hatunen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 20 Sep 2004 11:06:03 -0700, [email protected] (TS) wrote:
> >What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> >We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> >(probably not worth the hassle).
> You can also take the train from Sacramento to Richmaond and
> switch to BART there to get to SFO.
> >We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> >or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> >
> >We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> >the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> >non-stop from LAX.
> All of this sounds like more hassle than simply taking train and
> BART to SFO and a non-stop from there.
> >We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> >portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> >reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> >business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
> http://www.travelocity.com
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Sep 20th 2004, 9:26 pm
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
Personally I'd drive to SFO, its a lot less hassle than changing
planes.
> We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> non-stop from LAX.
> We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
You may want to consider Premium economy on Virgin Atlantic or BA
where you get a 38" seat pitch and better seats within your budget
Keith
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> What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> (probably not worth the hassle).
Personally I'd drive to SFO, its a lot less hassle than changing
planes.
> We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> non-stop from LAX.
> We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
You may want to consider Premium economy on Virgin Atlantic or BA
where you get a 38" seat pitch and better seats within your budget
Keith
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 07:00:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You can also drive to Pleasanton and catch BART there.
Pleasonton is kind of out of he way from Sacramento, but driving
to Concord wouldn't be out of the question, assuming parking is
available. BART used to have a 72 hour parking limit, but I don't
know if it's still in effect.
The problem at some BART stations can be to find any remaining
parking at all, if you don't arrive early in the day.
>$7.10 for fare, and
>the back of the BART ticket says you can call for reservations for extended
>parking at BART for SFO and OAK trips.
Huh. Now that's interesting.
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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You can also drive to Pleasanton and catch BART there.
Pleasonton is kind of out of he way from Sacramento, but driving
to Concord wouldn't be out of the question, assuming parking is
available. BART used to have a 72 hour parking limit, but I don't
know if it's still in effect.
The problem at some BART stations can be to find any remaining
parking at all, if you don't arrive early in the day.
>$7.10 for fare, and
>the back of the BART ticket says you can call for reservations for extended
>parking at BART for SFO and OAK trips.
Huh. Now that's interesting.
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Sep 21st 2004, 3:21 am
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Re: Sacramento to London Options?
"Keith Willshaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] om...
> > What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > (probably not worth the hassle).
> >
>
> Personally I'd drive to SFO, its a lot less hassle than changing
> planes.
>
> > We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> > or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> >
> > We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> > the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> > non-stop from LAX.
> >
> > We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> > portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> > reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> > business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
>
> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
>
> You may want to consider Premium economy on Virgin Atlantic or BA
> where you get a 38" seat pitch and better seats within your budget
>
> Keith
I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>
>
>
>
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> "TS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > What are the best options for 2 people traveling together July 2005?
> >
> > We could drive 3 hours to SFO and fly non-stop on several airlines.
> > (probably not worth the hassle).
> >
>
> Personally I'd drive to SFO, its a lot less hassle than changing
> planes.
>
> > We could fly direct on AA or UA from SMF and change planes in Dallas
> > or Chicago, then fly non-stop from there.
> >
> > We could take a Southwest Airlines flight to from SMF to LAX, then fly
> > the rest of the way non-stop from any number of airlines that fly
> > non-stop from LAX.
> >
> > We want to find the best possible coach seats for the transatlantic
> > portion of the flight, so we need an airline that will allow us to
> > reserve specific seats far in advance or else we would like to fly
> > business class for well under $3000 per seat R/T if possible.
>
> You probably wont get business class for under $3000 per seat
> The best I could do a couple of weeks ago was $3500
>
> You may want to consider Premium economy on Virgin Atlantic or BA
> where you get a 38" seat pitch and better seats within your budget
>
> Keith
I'll look at Premium Economy, but ideally we'd just like to be able to
get the very best coach seats available, exit row or somewhere else
where you have extra room or otherwise desireable location and reserve
the seats maybe 6 months in advance.
>
>
>
>
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