Destiny

Hello travelers-
Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
- I read that there was. I am all for preservation and I know it has to
be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
looking for suggestions-
How many days to devote to Munich?
What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
fancy the BMW museum much though)
add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
What day trips?
Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
Neuschwanstein and other sites?
well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
here for now!

D

Jens Arne Maennig

Destiny wrote:

    >Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein

Yes. But it's only hiding a small part of it.

    >How many days to devote to Munich?

5,353 :-) (That's my number of days in Munich so far.)

    >What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums,

What kind of? There are many different ones. Try
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U20224934 as a first start.

    >cool churches,

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O51242934 features just one of them.
Climb upt the stairs to the church tower of "Alter Peter"
(Peterskirche) is a must with the nicest view of Munich, Asamkirche
(just a few steps away) features a phantastic interior. If you're
interested in modern church architecture, you should also visit
Herz-Jesu-Kirche at Lachnerstrasse 8, the most impressive little
church built in Germany during the last couple of years
(http://www.herzjesu-muenchen.de/index1.html, in German only, but good
enough to click thru the pictures).

    >markets,

Aside from the usual Viktualienmarkt, Auer Dult at Mariahilfplatz ist
worth being seen (April 26 to May 5).

    >food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    >fancy the BMW museum much though)

Yes, but what? Let us know a bit more about your interests and it
will be easier to help you.

    >add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?

Yes, yes.

    >What day trips?

This will depend on your interests again. I would recommend a day on
the Chiemsee and a guided tour of the liquor factory ("Ettaler
Kräuterlikör") at the Ettal Monestary. The monk who is usually
guiding the tours is usually an American who got stuck there and joned
the monestary some years ago. Also do a S-Bahn (metropolitan railway)
trip out to Herrschin and take Europes youngest paddle steamer on the
Ammersee to Dießen. The Marienmünster church on the hill is one of
the most impressive one in Bavaria. But there are many, many more
choices...

    >Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    >Neuschwanstein and other sites?

Yes.

    >well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    >here for now!

No problem. Just ask.

Jens

Cb

I vacationed in Bavaria a few years ago and this is one destination where I
think a car would be very beneficial. First, there are so many fantastic
sites and detours you could take and taking trains and public transport
could be a hindrance. I personally decided to make Garmish my base for the
duration. I was there, coincidentally, in May as well, and though Garmish is
a ski resort town, all the skiing activities had subsided by then.

I think 2 days would be sufficient for Munich and here are some of the the
things I remember:

Munich
Took an organized day tour where they hit the main sights of the city.
Places like
1) Marienplatz - the center of the city where you definitely have to spend
some time and absorb the ambiance, for lack of a better term
2) Beer gardens - I only visited 3: Hofbrauhous, Augustiner and
Spatenhaus(?). Be careful when you order beer because unless specified you
will get the litter mug which may be too much. Loved that Schweinhaxe, that
roasted pork knuckle.
3) Schwabing district - at that time, this was supposed to be the place "to
see" and "be seen" with lots of restaurants, beer gardens, etc.
3) BMW Museum and other museums - forgot the name but aside from BMW, there
are several art and science museums that are a "must see".
4) Nymphenburg Palace - just on the outskirts of Munich and not as well
know, but still worth a visit.
5) English Garden - a walk in this park is a good escape.

Just outside of Munich
1) Andechs Monastery - brewery with good eats.
2) Dachau - not as big as Auschwitz but just as poignant.

Further south:
1) Ettal Monatery - kinda blah but ....
2) Linderfhof castle - one of the few castles that was completed and used as
a residence by Ludwig. Small with nice garden and grotto on the back.
3) Oberamergau - passion plays if you have the patience to watch one.
4) Neuschweinstein - location location location. Personally, I think
Linderhof is better but this one has a much more dramatic location with
miles of walking trails around it. Don't know about the scaffolding but
seems like most of these castle have constant renovations going on.
5) Mittenwald and Zugspitze - one of the highest, and the highest, peaks
respectively, in that are.

I could go on, but you get the idea.



"Destiny" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello travelers-
    > Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
    > - I read that there was. I am all for preservation and I know it has to
    > be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
    > I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
    > looking for suggestions-
    > How many days to devote to Munich?
    > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
    > churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    > fancy the BMW museum much though)
    > add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
    > What day trips?
    > Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    > Neuschwanstein and other sites?
    > well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    > here for now!
    > D

Harvey Van Sickle

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:12:55 GMT, Destiny wrote

-snip-


    > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like
    > museums, cool churches,


The Asamkirche (St Johann Nepomuck), in Sendlingerstrasse.

It's not all that strange from the outside, but the interior
is......remarkably ornate.

(A google search will turn up lots of stuff on it.)

--
Cheers,
Harvey

For e-mail, harvey becomes whhvs.

Ptravel

"Destiny" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello travelers-
    > Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
    > - I read that there was.

There was when we were there last year. However, it only covers a small
part of the castle. There are still spectacular views, particularly from
the bridge (I think it's called Maria's Bridge, or something similar).

    >I am all for preservation and I know it has to
    > be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
    > I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
    > looking for suggestions-
    > How many days to devote to Munich?

Munich is a wonderful city. We were there for 4 nights, which wasn't
enough.


    > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
    > churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    > fancy the BMW museum much though)

As I say, we didn't have a chance to do anywhere near enough, and want to go
back. Definitely visit a beer hall -- the Hofbrauhaus is the classic
beerhall experience. Order a stein and some roasted pig's knuckles.

I took a day trip to Dauchau (my wife was reluctant to go). It's very easy
to reach by public transportation. It was a moving and terrifying
experience.


    > add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
    > What day trips?
    > Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    > Neuschwanstein and other sites?

Yes. Our hotel arranged one for us. We usually don't like bus tours, but
this one worked out quite well. There was an obligatory stop in
Oberramergau, primarily to run us through the souvenir shops.
Neuschwanstein, though, was quite an experience. We were left on our own to
explore (which is the way we like it), and enjoyed touring the castle (which
was built in the 1860s, by the way), catching magnificent views of the
castle and the surrounding countryside, etc.

    > well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    > here for now!
    > D

Destiny

Thanks for the response -- I am studying up and I am sure I will have
more questions!! ;-)
D

Destiny

Lots of good info here thanks!



cb wrote:

    > I vacationed in Bavaria a few years ago and this is one destination where I
    > think a car would be very beneficial. First, there are so many fantastic
    > sites and detours you could take and taking trains and public transport
    > could be a hindrance. I personally decided to make Garmish my base for the
    > duration. I was there, coincidentally, in May as well, and though Garmish is
    > a ski resort town, all the skiing activities had subsided by then.
    > I think 2 days would be sufficient for Munich and here are some of the the
    > things I remember:
    > Munich
    > Took an organized day tour where they hit the main sights of the city.
    > Places like
    > 1) Marienplatz - the center of the city where you definitely have to spend
    > some time and absorb the ambiance, for lack of a better term
    > 2) Beer gardens - I only visited 3: Hofbrauhous, Augustiner and
    > Spatenhaus(?). Be careful when you order beer because unless specified you
    > will get the litter mug which may be too much. Loved that Schweinhaxe, that
    > roasted pork knuckle.
    > 3) Schwabing district - at that time, this was supposed to be the place "to
    > see" and "be seen" with lots of restaurants, beer gardens, etc.
    > 3) BMW Museum and other museums - forgot the name but aside from BMW, there
    > are several art and science museums that are a "must see".
    > 4) Nymphenburg Palace - just on the outskirts of Munich and not as well
    > know, but still worth a visit.
    > 5) English Garden - a walk in this park is a good escape.
    > Just outside of Munich
    > 1) Andechs Monastery - brewery with good eats.
    > 2) Dachau - not as big as Auschwitz but just as poignant.
    > Further south:
    > 1) Ettal Monatery - kinda blah but ....
    > 2) Linderfhof castle - one of the few castles that was completed and used as
    > a residence by Ludwig. Small with nice garden and grotto on the back.
    > 3) Oberamergau - passion plays if you have the patience to watch one.
    > 4) Neuschweinstein - location location location. Personally, I think
    > Linderhof is better but this one has a much more dramatic location with
    > miles of walking trails around it. Don't know about the scaffolding but
    > seems like most of these castle have constant renovations going on.
    > 5) Mittenwald and Zugspitze - one of the highest, and the highest, peaks
    > respectively, in that are.
    > I could go on, but you get the idea.
    > "Destiny" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello travelers-
    > > Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
    > > - I read that there was. I am all for preservation and I know it has to
    > > be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
    > > I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
    > > looking for suggestions-
    > > How many days to devote to Munich?
    > > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
    > > churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    > > fancy the BMW museum much though)
    > > add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
    > > What day trips?
    > > Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    > > Neuschwanstein and other sites?
    > > well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    > > here for now!
    > >
    > > D
    > >

Destiny

more great info thanks to everyone! soooo much planning to do and probably
more questions
D

PTRAVEL wrote:

    > "Destiny" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello travelers-
    > > Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
    > > - I read that there was.
    > There was when we were there last year. However, it only covers a small
    > part of the castle. There are still spectacular views, particularly from
    > the bridge (I think it's called Maria's Bridge, or something similar).
    > >I am all for preservation and I know it has to
    > > be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
    > > I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
    > > looking for suggestions-
    > > How many days to devote to Munich?
    > Munich is a wonderful city. We were there for 4 nights, which wasn't
    > enough.
    > > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
    > > churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    > > fancy the BMW museum much though)
    > As I say, we didn't have a chance to do anywhere near enough, and want to go
    > back. Definitely visit a beer hall -- the Hofbrauhaus is the classic
    > beerhall experience. Order a stein and some roasted pig's knuckles.
    > I took a day trip to Dauchau (my wife was reluctant to go). It's very easy
    > to reach by public transportation. It was a moving and terrifying
    > experience.
    > > add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
    > > What day trips?
    > > Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    > > Neuschwanstein and other sites?
    > Yes. Our hotel arranged one for us. We usually don't like bus tours, but
    > this one worked out quite well. There was an obligatory stop in
    > Oberramergau, primarily to run us through the souvenir shops.
    > Neuschwanstein, though, was quite an experience. We were left on our own to
    > explore (which is the way we like it), and enjoyed touring the castle (which
    > was built in the 1860s, by the way), catching magnificent views of the
    > castle and the surrounding countryside, etc.
    > > well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    > > here for now!
    > >
    > > D
    > >

Destiny

I presume that this was just a day trip to the castle --- how many hours would
you guess and what time did it leave in the morning?? also I don't suppose you
remember a particular name of the tour group ?? :-) If I had more time I would
consider renting a car but Munich is at the end of my trip and I would rather
take the easy way.

Thanks again D

PTRAVEL wrote:

    > "Destiny" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello travelers-
    > > Hope someone will know --- Is there still scaffolding on Neuschwanstein
    > > - I read that there was.
    > There was when we were there last year. However, it only covers a small
    > part of the castle. There are still spectacular views, particularly from
    > the bridge (I think it's called Maria's Bridge, or something similar).
    > >I am all for preservation and I know it has to
    > > be done sometime but I was wondering if it was still there.
    > > I am going to in Munich for a few days before I fly back home and I am
    > > looking for suggestions-
    > > How many days to devote to Munich?
    > Munich is a wonderful city. We were there for 4 nights, which wasn't
    > enough.
    > > What are the 'must sees' for Munich in early May? ( I like museums, cool
    > > churches, markets, food halls and interesting stuff- probably wouldn't
    > > fancy the BMW museum much though)
    > As I say, we didn't have a chance to do anywhere near enough, and want to go
    > back. Definitely visit a beer hall -- the Hofbrauhaus is the classic
    > beerhall experience. Order a stein and some roasted pig's knuckles.
    > I took a day trip to Dauchau (my wife was reluctant to go). It's very easy
    > to reach by public transportation. It was a moving and terrifying
    > experience.
    > > add more days and use it for a home base for day trips?
    > > What day trips?
    > > Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    > > Neuschwanstein and other sites?
    > Yes. Our hotel arranged one for us. We usually don't like bus tours, but
    > this one worked out quite well. There was an obligatory stop in
    > Oberramergau, primarily to run us through the souvenir shops.
    > Neuschwanstein, though, was quite an experience. We were left on our own to
    > explore (which is the way we like it), and enjoyed touring the castle (which
    > was built in the 1860s, by the way), catching magnificent views of the
    > castle and the surrounding countryside, etc.
    > > well I will probably have a hundred other questions so I had better stop
    > > here for now!
    > >
    > > D
    > >

Frank Clarke

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:12:55 -0600, Destiny
wrote:


    >Are there tours from Munich that take people in trips to see
    >Neuschwanstein and other sites?

Check with EurAide at the Munich hbf or www.euraide.com. They offer a
Wednesday-only trip to Neuschwanstein, Lindenhof, Wieskirche, and (if
time permits) Ettal. Pretty good deal.

Erilar

In article , Harvey Van Sickle
wrote:

    >
    > The Asamkirche (St Johann Nepomuck), in Sendlingerstrasse.
    >
    > It's not all that strange from the outside, but the interior
    > is......remarkably ornate.

I used to take my students there and then to the Theatinerkirche and
tell them, "and these are both baroque churches"--because they are so
different 8-)

--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)


Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo