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Old Feb 12th 2007, 8:10 pm
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-Robs
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Yes! This morning i got the official cancellation by ryanair of my flight
from morrocco to spain. See below the reason they give. I think this is not
the correct reason because Atlas blue and Easyjet still offer flights
spain-morrocco(luckely for me). Easyjet start flying next week from madrid.

I think the real reason is that they could not make a good commercial deal
with the airports or gouverment. In that case, I blame them because they
offer flights before they finish ''doing buisseness'' with the airports
and/or gouverments.

Of course they don't give me an alternative flight from another company but
i can get mt money back. Because i just booked one single journey from
marrakech to barcelona, i have to look for an alternative. If there would't
be atlas blue or easyjet, i had to travel overland and boat to barcelona.

I learned a lesson: don't plan hollidays with low costs airlines to new
destinations. The european rules say that airlines can cancel their flights
at least two weeks before departure without any reason. I think, with
ryanairs policy, this rule will change.




This route was announced on the understanding that the Openskies agreement
between the EU and Morocco would be applied immediately in all EU countries.
Unfortunately, this has not been the case in Spain, where the Spanish
Government has refused to confirm its immediate implementation. Other EU
countries (UK &Ireland) have permitted low fares and competition on routes
to Morocco and we regret that passengers in Spain will have to wait for this
to happen.


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groet,

rob
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 1:27 am
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robs schrieb:

> Of course they don't give me an alternative flight from another company but
> i can get mt money back. Because i just booked one single journey from
> marrakech to barcelona, i have to look for an alternative. If there would't
> be atlas blue or easyjet, i had to travel overland and boat to barcelona.
>
> I learned a lesson: don't plan hollidays with low costs airlines to new
> destinations. The european rules say that airlines can cancel their flights
> at least two weeks before departure without any reason. I think, with
> ryanairs policy, this rule will change.

You will not get compensation under article 7 but article 8 still applies.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri�?LEX:32004R0261:EN:HTML

Regards, ULF
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 1:38 am
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-Martin
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:27:46 +0100, Ulf Kutzner <[email protected]>
wrote:

>robs schrieb:
>
>> Of course they don't give me an alternative flight from another company but
>> i can get mt money back. Because i just booked one single journey from
>> marrakech to barcelona, i have to look for an alternative. If there would't
>> be atlas blue or easyjet, i had to travel overland and boat to barcelona.
>>
>> I learned a lesson: don't plan hollidays with low costs airlines to new
>> destinations. The european rules say that airlines can cancel their flights
>> at least two weeks before departure without any reason. I think, with
>> ryanairs policy, this rule will change.
>
>You will not get compensation under article 7 but article 8 still applies.
>
>http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri�?LEX:32004R0261:EN:HTML

Article 8 is for the airline not the passenger.


"Article 5

Cancellation

1. In case of cancellation of a flight, the passengers concerned shall:

(a) be offered assistance by the operating air carrier in accordance with
Article 8; and

(b) be offered assistance by the operating air carrier in accordance with
Article 9(1)(a) and 9(2), as well as, in event of re-routing when the reasonably
expected time of departure of the new flight is at least the day after the
departure as it was planned for the cancelled flight, the assistance specified
in Article 9(1)(b) and 9(1)(c); and

(c) have the right to compensation by the operating air carrier in accordance
with Article 7, unless:

(i) they are informed of the cancellation at least two weeks before the
scheduled time of departure; ..."

Article 5 1. c) (i) is perfectly clear.

I don't understand why this thread goes on and on and on.
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Martin
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 8:27 pm
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Sturkenboom R
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On 14 feb, 15:27, Ulf Kutzner <[email protected]> wrote:
> robs schrieb:
>
> > Of course they don't give me an alternative flight from another company but
> > i can get mt money back. Because i just booked one single journey from
> > marrakech to barcelona, i have to look for an alternative. If there would't
> > be atlas blue or easyjet, i had to travel overland and boat to barcelona.
>
> > I learned a lesson: don't plan hollidays with low costs airlines to new
> > destinations. The european rules say that airlines can cancel their flights
> > at least two weeks before departure without any reason. I think, with
> > ryanairs policy, this rule will change.
>
> You will not get compensation under article 7 but article 8 still applies.
>
> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri�?LEX:32004R026...
>
> Regards, ULF

thanks Ulf. I thinks Martin has a kind of mental disorder, and cannot
imagines human things
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 9:45 pm
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-Martin
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On 15 Feb 2007 01:27:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>On 14 feb, 15:27, Ulf Kutzner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> robs schrieb:
>>
>> > Of course they don't give me an alternative flight from another company but
>> > i can get mt money back. Because i just booked one single journey from
>> > marrakech to barcelona, i have to look for an alternative. If there would't
>> > be atlas blue or easyjet, i had to travel overland and boat to barcelona.
>>
>> > I learned a lesson: don't plan hollidays with low costs airlines to new
>> > destinations. The european rules say that airlines can cancel their flights
>> > at least two weeks before departure without any reason. I think, with
>> > ryanairs policy, this rule will change.
>>
>> You will not get compensation under article 7 but article 8 still applies.
>>
>> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri�?LEX:32004R026...
>>
>> Regards, ULF
>
>thanks Ulf. I thinks Martin has a kind of mental disorder, and cannot
>imagines human things

My mental disorder is to have read the terms and conditions and to have read the
EU rules carefully. I'd guess you did neither before buying your tickets.

It's the equivalent of not RTFM.

You will not get anything other than a refund for what you paid for your Ryanair
ticket.
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Martin
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 9:48 pm
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David Horne
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15 Feb 2007 01:27:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
[]
> >thanks Ulf. I thinks Martin has a kind of mental disorder, and cannot
> >imagines human things
>
> My mental disorder is to have read the terms and conditions and to have
> read the EU rules carefully.

I thought sturkenboom was hinting that you personally send a
reimbursement to said poster!

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 10:42 pm
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-Martin
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:48:37 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 15 Feb 2007 01:27:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>[]
>> >thanks Ulf. I thinks Martin has a kind of mental disorder, and cannot
>> >imagines human things
>>
>> My mental disorder is to have read the terms and conditions and to have
>> read the EU rules carefully.
>
>I thought sturkenboom was hinting that you personally send a
>reimbursement to said poster!

In that case I'll put a cold kroket in the post for him.

"Human things" and Ryanair LOL

Maybe the BBC website cut and paster would like to make a donation.
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Martin
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 10:46 pm
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David Horne
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:48:37 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 Feb 2007 01:27:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >[]
> >> >thanks Ulf. I thinks Martin has a kind of mental disorder, and cannot
> >> >imagines human things
> >>
> >> My mental disorder is to have read the terms and conditions and to have
> >> read the EU rules carefully.
> >
> >I thought sturkenboom was hinting that you personally send a
> >reimbursement to said poster!
>
> In that case I'll put a cold kroket in the post for him.
>
> "Human things" and Ryanair LOL

Boy, after that last flight with them from Liverpool to Girona, Chavair,
more like. It seems to be a _Girona_ thing, as opposed to a Liverpool
thing. My return flight from Barcelona to Liverpool was fine...

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