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Robetr Buxbaum r.i.p.

Robetr Buxbaum r.i.p.

Old Jan 23rd 2007, 12:39 am
  #16  
Earl Evleth
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On 23/01/07 12:47, in article
[email protected] ws.net, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> He died on Thursday.
>
> Will he send a trip report from his last journey ?
> and can you drink the water up there ?
>
> I am too 'NG young' to remember him but he sounds like a nice guy.
>
> P.S. having put 14 posters in my killfile this Ng seems to be like it was in
> the good old days).

You can use google to call up old posts, he posted a lot. Most groups are
more toxic now.

Is there a way out? It will require individual self-control to avoid
"objectionable" language, which is toxic. An evolution towards
more polite exchanges is necessary. Women are generally a calming
influence and one can judge the probably social health of a group
of posters by the number of women around and whether they are
verbally aggressed by the men.

One index of how polite a particular poster is, is the use of the
word "asshole". So we could create an politeness index around that.
The word has been used against me a number of times but I don't
recall using it with regard to another person.

One of Robert's latter postings showed what kind of gentleman he
was

"That said, one should always expect some unreasonable criticism here and
certainly one should expect a percentage of posters to misread or
misunderstand any post and a recent reply calling Rita an asshole was
uncalled for in my opinion."

I noticed when I ran the profile on his postings there are some in
2003 but few from May of 2002 on, last posting on rec.travel.europe
in October of 2002. Dropping out of posting heavily can be done
for several reasons, health problems being one of them. The gap
between leaving the group and death is partly explained below.

I found this on the web, his picture and all---

http://offthebroiler.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/goodbye-bux/


It is with great regret that I must inform OTB readers that my (and
everyone�s) friend, Robert Buxbaum, known to all as �Bux�, passed away
yesterday on January 18, 2007 after suffering a year-long and very difficult
battle with esophageal cancer.

Robert was a unique individual, with many friends, and an altogether classy
guy and a true �mensch� in every sense of the word. As a founding affiliate
member and manager at eGullet.com, he brought his tremendous expertise in
fine dining literally to the table, which came from his years of travelling
with his beloved wife, Esilda, to France, Spain and other parts of the
globe. He was opinionated and always let you know what he thought, didn�t
settle for anything but the best, and was highly respected by many
restauranteurs and world-class chefs for his discerning taste.

Bux�s service will be on Sunday, January 21. Hopefully I�ll see a bunch of
you there so we can all toast to him.

Goodbye, Bux. We love you.

Please send condolences to:

[email protected]

The family has asked that in lieu of flowers, that you send a donation in
the name of Robert Buxbaum to Citymeals-on-Wheels.

The following is his official obituary written by his family:

Robert Buxbaum, known as Bux, sculptor and gourmand, died on Thursday,
January 18 from complications of cancer. He was sixty-seven years old. He is
survived by his wife of forty-three years, Esilda; daughter, Rica Allannic;
son-in-law, Cyrille; grandson, Adrian; sister, Elaine Cousins; and niece,
Monica Noraian.

After studying architecture at Cornell University, Buxbaum, born and raised
in Brooklyn, having attended Erasmus Hall High School, returned to New York
City as a sculpture assistant to artist and architect Frederick Kiesler, who
is known for his design of the Endless House, The World House Gallery in New
York City, and the Shrine of the Book, which houses the Dead Sea Scrolls,
for the Israel Museum in Jerusalem. Buxbaum would later name his daughter,
Frederika (Rica), after his mentor. As an architect with the firm Davis,
Brody & Associates, he worked on plans for the revolutionary U.S. Pavilion
at the 1970 World Expo in Osaka, Japan. After a ten-year career in
architecture, he turned his attention to art and was a pioneer of the SoHo
artist movement, moving to an industrial loft in the neighborhood in 1970.
His minimalist sculptures and line drawings were exhibited at galleries such
as O.K. Harris, Warren Benedek, and 55 Mercer and his pieces are owned by
private and corporate collections including Chase Manhattan Bank, Xerox, and
Owens Corning.

One of the original founders of the food forum egullet.com, he was
passionate about cooking, food, wine, France, and Spain and wrote about his
meals and travels on his website, worldtable.com.

A memorial service is planned for Sunday.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 1:09 am
  #17  
Gregory Morrow
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Markku Grönroos grumps:

> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> viestissÀ:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > Joseph Coulter wrote:
> >> S Viemeister wrote:
> >>
> >>> Long-time posters to/readers of rec.travel.europe may remember Robert
> >>> Buxbaum, who posted here for a number of years on food, wine, and
> >>> travel, and had a travel and food website at
> >>> <http://www.worldtable.com/>.
> >>>
> >>> He died on Thursday.
> >>
> >>
> >> Always good on topic stuff, I have missed him of late and now it is too
> >> late.
> >
> > Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about other
newsgroup
> > readers, but I always appreciate it when someone thinks to announce such
> > departures, here. So often
>
> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
>


And *you* would be much more "appreciated" if you were "departed", Mr.
Malarkey...

--
Best
Greg
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 1:46 am
  #18  
B Vaughan
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:15 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about
>other newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when
>someone thinks to announce such departures, here. So often
>people disappear from the group leaving no trace, and those
>of us who valued their cyber-acquaintance are left wondering
>what happened to them.

Normally, no one would ever know that a person had died. If I get run
over by a truck tomorrow, who would tell you?
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 2:40 am
  #19  
barney2
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (B
Vaughan) wrote:

> *From:* B Vaughan<[email protected]>
> *Date:* Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:46:32 +0100
>
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:15 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about
> >other newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when
> >someone thinks to announce such departures, here. So often
> >people disappear from the group leaving no trace, and those
> >of us who valued their cyber-acquaintance are left wondering
> >what happened to them.
>
> Normally, no one would ever know that a person had died. If I get run
> over by a truck tomorrow, who would tell you?

Nobody, probably, but we might find out - /some/ posters reveal sufficient
personal information that it might be possible to track down an obituary
or news report online.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 2:48 am
  #20  
Earl Evleth
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On 23/01/07 15:46, in article [email protected], "B
Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Normally, no one would ever know that a person had died. If I get run
> over by a truck tomorrow, who would tell you?

Depends on who you are. Robert was written up in the papers
and not really in classical obituary form.

France has just gone through the death of l'abb� Pierre, which was
a normal death, he was 94. He constantly was at the head
of polls rating the most respected person in France. He
certainly looked like an abb�, dressed in that fashion.

Anyway, sometimes people say stupid things when people die.
His passing was normal, very late even and so grief is hard
to stir up, one wishes more to celebrate his life than
regret his ding.

Robert was a bit young, a 67, he lost out on another 10 years
of life expectancy. I feel some regret on his being cut down
that "young". I feel that, at 75, I have received what I statistically
expected. I might get quite a few more years if I live to the age
of my parents but 75 is OK, especially since I have no particular
problems (to piggy's regret, no doubt).

What I am more deeply saddened at the death of the young. I find
it very moving to visit military cemeteries and look at
the markers, which mark the death of young men in their early
20s. A few years ago, when I helped arrange the return
of a young woman who had come to France for her doctoral
thesis work. It turned out that she had had phase 4 breast
cancer and that she had been treated in a new fashion, her
bone marrow replaced after receiving a "fatal" dose of radiation.
The doctors said she was free of cancer so she came to France
to study. After a few months she started having head aches
and the Pasteur Institute determined she had a brain tumor.
She was in sad shape when a special nurse left with her
on the plane for the USA. She thanked me for my help
and said she would be back in a few months. Her smile
was not convincing and she did not return, she died
a few months later. A life destroyed, that long
life before her would not be. It was the first time
in my life that I sincerely wanted to change places
with her. Take me instead. No, I am here and she is not.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:00 am
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-Martin
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:46:32 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:15 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about
>>other newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when
>>someone thinks to announce such departures, here. So often
>>people disappear from the group leaving no trace, and those
>>of us who valued their cyber-acquaintance are left wondering
>>what happened to them.
>
>Normally, no one would ever know that a person had died. If I get run
>over by a truck tomorrow, who would tell you?

No doubt one of the nerds, who post odd news stories would.
--

Martin
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:05 am
  #22  
Keith Anderson
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:54:18 -0500, S Viemeister
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Long-time posters to/readers of rec.travel.europe may remember Robert
>Buxbaum, who posted here for a number of years on food, wine, and
>travel, and had a travel and food website at <http://www.worldtable.com/>.
>
>He died on Thursday.

Sad to hear.

His posts were always good to read and he had a good sense of humour.


Keith, Bristol, UK
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:15 am
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EvelynVogtGamble
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Markku Gr�nroos wrote:
>
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> viestiss�:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>
>> Joseph Coulter wrote:
>>
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>>> Long-time posters to/readers of rec.travel.europe may remember
>>>> Robert Buxbaum, who posted here for a number of years on food, wine,
>>>> and travel, and had a travel and food website at
>>>> <http://www.worldtable.com/>.
>>>>
>>>> He died on Thursday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Always good on topic stuff, I have missed him of late and now it is
>>> too late.
>>
>>
>> Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about other
>> newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when someone thinks to
>> announce such departures, here. So often
>
>
> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.

Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have
kill-filed YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR
mean-spirited, anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are
"appreciated".)
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:24 am
  #24  
Padraig Breathnach
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B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:

>Normally, no one would ever know that a person had died. If I get run
>over by a truck tomorrow, who would tell you?

A fair observation: usually there is no mechanism, unless there is
personal contact outside such fora as usenet.

In another newsgroup, the son of a busy participant found his way in
to tell others of his father's death.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:51 am
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-Martin
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:15:42 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>Markku Gr�nroos wrote:
>>
>> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
>> viestiss�:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joseph Coulter wrote:
>>>
>>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Long-time posters to/readers of rec.travel.europe may remember
>>>>> Robert Buxbaum, who posted here for a number of years on food, wine,
>>>>> and travel, and had a travel and food website at
>>>>> <http://www.worldtable.com/>.
>>>>>
>>>>> He died on Thursday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Always good on topic stuff, I have missed him of late and now it is
>>>> too late.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about other
>>> newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when someone thinks to
>>> announce such departures, here. So often
>>
>>
>> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
>
>Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have
>kill-filed YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR
>mean-spirited, anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are
>"appreciated".)

I appreciate your posts Evelyn, ignore the racist.

He has put me off ever wanting to visit Finland.
--

Martin
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 5:56 am
  #26  
kurkku
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected]...
>

>>
>> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
>
> Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have kill-filed
> YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR mean-spirited,
> anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are "appreciated".)

You honestly believe they haven't killfiled you?
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 6:05 am
  #27  
kurkku
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected]...
>
>>>>
>>>> Always good on topic stuff, I have missed him of late and now it is too
>>>> late.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I always enjoyed his posts, too. I don't know about other
>>> newsgroup readers, but I always appreciate it when someone thinks to
>>> announce such departures, here. So often
>>
>>
>> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
>
> Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have

Isn't this obvious? Whereas the corpse is remembered (according to some) to
discuss on topics relevant to travelling in Europe, you on the other hand
seldom do so.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 6:09 am
  #28  
-Magda
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:56:59 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Markku Gr�nroos
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
... viestiss�:[email protected]...
... >
...
... >>
... >> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
... >
... > Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have kill-filed
... > YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR mean-spirited,
... > anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are "appreciated".)
...
... You honestly believe they haven't killfiled you?

I have not.
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 6:14 am
  #29  
-Martin
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:09:04 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:56:59 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Markku Gr�nroos
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
> ... viestiss�:[email protected]...
> ... >
> ...
> ... >>
> ... >> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
> ... >
> ... > Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have kill-filed
> ... > YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR mean-spirited,
> ... > anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are "appreciated".)
> ...
> ... You honestly believe they haven't killfiled you?
>
>I have not.

and why should we?
--

Martin
 
Old Jan 23rd 2007, 6:29 am
  #30  
-Magda
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:14:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:09:04 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:56:59 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Markku Gr�nroos
... ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ...
... > ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
... > ... viestiss�:[email protected]...
... > ... >
... > ...
... > ... >>
... > ... >> Your posts are not appreciated in rte though. I can tell this much.
... > ... >
... > ... > Really? How do you determine that? (Since most people have kill-filed
... > ... > YOU, that may say something about how well YOUR mean-spirited,
... > ... > anti-Semite, homophobic posts here are "appreciated".)
... > ...
... > ... You honestly believe they haven't killfiled you?
... >
... >I have not.
...
... and why should we?

No reason at all - but Markku is next in my list.
 

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