Rental Car Models for Long Trips?
May 23rd 2004, 2:09 pm
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Rental Car Models for Long Trips?
We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
sold in the US.
We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
a day behind the wheel at times.
Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
Recommendations?
sold in the US.
We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
a day behind the wheel at times.
Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
Recommendations?
May 23rd 2004, 2:28 pm
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Ford Focus type vehicle with 2L engine!
Peugeot 206 - also comes as a diesel. Small European cars drive much better
than small US cars; much superior interior space usage means they're much
more comfortable.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Peugeot 206 - also comes as a diesel. Small European cars drive much better
than small US cars; much superior interior space usage means they're much
more comfortable.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
May 23rd 2004, 2:43 pm
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:09:56 -0700, Max wrote:
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Look into the diesel models; they're much more common in Europe. We really
only got one by accident - they upgraded us to a bigger model. Turns out,
it got better fuel economy than the smaller one we had planned on.
IIRC, Europecar had good rates on the VW Golf diesel.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Look into the diesel models; they're much more common in Europe. We really
only got one by accident - they upgraded us to a bigger model. Turns out,
it got better fuel economy than the smaller one we had planned on.
IIRC, Europecar had good rates on the VW Golf diesel.
--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)
May 23rd 2004, 4:42 pm
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Since no one is going to tell you the car model they are going to give
you I don't understand what you expect. The actual car model within the
general category you selected will be determined at the rental desk.
Personally I usually just rent the largest stick shift that they offer.
It's usually cramped but not too bad.
Max wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
you I don't understand what you expect. The actual car model within the
general category you selected will be determined at the rental desk.
Personally I usually just rent the largest stick shift that they offer.
It's usually cramped but not too bad.
Max wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
May 23rd 2004, 8:25 pm
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We were quite happy with the car we were given. It accommodated us and
our baggage comfortably, was reasonably fuel-efficient, handled very
well, and was generally fun to drive.
The full report, "Driving in Italy", is at the site at Right in the
sig.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
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our baggage comfortably, was reasonably fuel-efficient, handled very
well, and was generally fun to drive.
The full report, "Driving in Italy", is at the site at Right in the
sig.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
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May 23rd 2004, 8:38 pm
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> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Your looking at second up from the bottom. Usually a Ford Focus or a VW
Golf, both nice cars to drive, economical and suprisingly roomy. Most now
come with things like Air-con and a CD player.
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Your looking at second up from the bottom. Usually a Ford Focus or a VW
Golf, both nice cars to drive, economical and suprisingly roomy. Most now
come with things like Air-con and a CD player.
May 23rd 2004, 9:08 pm
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Max wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
>
>
2 adults means you can perhaps use the back seat for luggage as well.
I'm 6 something (2 meters) and I can drive almost anything in the C
class (VW Golf, Opel Astra, Ford Focus, Renault Megane) quite
comfortably for a day. One thing about Diesels you should know, the
engine noise tends to be a lot lower in frequency, something which
bothers some people.
--
Groeten/Regards
Jeroen Wijnands
jeroen at wijnands punt xs4all punt nl
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
>
>
2 adults means you can perhaps use the back seat for luggage as well.
I'm 6 something (2 meters) and I can drive almost anything in the C
class (VW Golf, Opel Astra, Ford Focus, Renault Megane) quite
comfortably for a day. One thing about Diesels you should know, the
engine noise tends to be a lot lower in frequency, something which
bothers some people.
--
Groeten/Regards
Jeroen Wijnands
jeroen at wijnands punt xs4all punt nl
May 23rd 2004, 10:25 pm
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"Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message
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> Since no one is going to tell you the car model they are going to give
> you I don't understand what you expect. The actual car model within the
> general category you selected will be determined at the rental desk.
> Personally I usually just rent the largest stick shift that they offer.
> It's usually cramped but not too bad.
> Max wrote:
> > We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars
not
> > sold in the US.
> >
> > We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to
carry
> > two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> > a day behind the wheel at times.
> > Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel
economy.
> > So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> > and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> > rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> > Recommendations?
I'd suggest an Opel Zafira diesel. It's comfortable for big people, has
plenty of room for luggage, and is economical on deisel..
From ADA you can hire one for four days for 450 ?.
www.cpmac.com/normandy
cpmac
de news: [email protected]...
> Since no one is going to tell you the car model they are going to give
> you I don't understand what you expect. The actual car model within the
> general category you selected will be determined at the rental desk.
> Personally I usually just rent the largest stick shift that they offer.
> It's usually cramped but not too bad.
> Max wrote:
> > We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars
not
> > sold in the US.
> >
> > We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to
carry
> > two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8
hours
> > a day behind the wheel at times.
> > Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel
economy.
> > So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable,
noisy
> > and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> > rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> > Recommendations?
I'd suggest an Opel Zafira diesel. It's comfortable for big people, has
plenty of room for luggage, and is economical on deisel..
From ADA you can hire one for four days for 450 ?.
www.cpmac.com/normandy
cpmac
May 24th 2004, 12:15 am
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On 24 May 2004 05:18:01 -0700, David wrote:
> If they dont have exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Or something comparable. It depends on the company and what they have
available.
--
Tim C.
> If they dont have exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Or something comparable. It depends on the company and what they have
available.
--
Tim C.
May 24th 2004, 12:18 am
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"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Are you requesting advice about hire cars , or are you fleet buying ?
If in mainland Europe, book a "Kombi" (stationwagon or Estate car).
These obviously have more space for luggage, the seats are more
flexible and are more often turbo Diesel powered than saloons. I do
this often for journies across central Europe. If they dont have
exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Therefore it would seem sensible to book a small Kombi car which would
suffice and hope for an upgrade on account of your luggage. It works
for me...
I have yesterday driven from central UK to Frankfurt in an Opel Vectra
Kombi. No fun but that was work...
Dave
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
>
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
Are you requesting advice about hire cars , or are you fleet buying ?
If in mainland Europe, book a "Kombi" (stationwagon or Estate car).
These obviously have more space for luggage, the seats are more
flexible and are more often turbo Diesel powered than saloons. I do
this often for journies across central Europe. If they dont have
exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Therefore it would seem sensible to book a small Kombi car which would
suffice and hope for an upgrade on account of your luggage. It works
for me...
I have yesterday driven from central UK to Frankfurt in an Opel Vectra
Kombi. No fun but that was work...
Dave
May 24th 2004, 2:21 am
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David wrote:
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
>>sold in the US.
>>We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
>>two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
>>a day behind the wheel at times.
>> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
>>So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
>>and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
>>rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
>>Recommendations?
> Are you requesting advice about hire cars , or are you fleet buying ?
>
> If in mainland Europe, book a "Kombi" (stationwagon or Estate car).
> These obviously have more space for luggage, the seats are more
> flexible and are more often turbo Diesel powered than saloons. I do
> this often for journies across central Europe. If they dont have
> exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Not quite correct. It should read "If they don't have anything in the
class that you ordered." I've almost never gotten the model mentioned
when I ordered.
> Therefore it would seem sensible to book a small Kombi car which would
> suffice and hope for an upgrade on account of your luggage. It works
> for me...
>
> I have yesterday driven from central UK to Frankfurt in an Opel Vectra
> Kombi. No fun but that was work...
>
> Dave
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
>>sold in the US.
>>We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
>>two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
>>a day behind the wheel at times.
>> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
>>So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
>>and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
>>rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
>>Recommendations?
> Are you requesting advice about hire cars , or are you fleet buying ?
>
> If in mainland Europe, book a "Kombi" (stationwagon or Estate car).
> These obviously have more space for luggage, the seats are more
> flexible and are more often turbo Diesel powered than saloons. I do
> this often for journies across central Europe. If they dont have
> exactly the car you ordered, they must upgrade to something bigger.
Not quite correct. It should read "If they don't have anything in the
class that you ordered." I've almost never gotten the model mentioned
when I ordered.
> Therefore it would seem sensible to book a small Kombi car which would
> suffice and hope for an upgrade on account of your luggage. It works
> for me...
>
> I have yesterday driven from central UK to Frankfurt in an Opel Vectra
> Kombi. No fun but that was work...
>
> Dave
May 24th 2004, 2:32 am
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Max wrote:
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
On my last trip to Europe we had booked a Volkswagon Borro <?> I was not
familiar with that model but was assured that it could easily handle 5 adults,
which we needed because we needed extra room to drive some friends to
functions. The rest of the time it was just my wife and I in the car. When I
arrived to pick up the car it turned out to be a Gulf ( with TDI diesel
engine). I was a little disappointed when I saw it, but it turned out to be
quite roomy and very comfortable. We drove 4,000 km over two weeks, and I never
once felt uncomfortable. I was quite happy with it, and we got close to 60 mpg
with that car.
> We are not familiar with the characteristics of various European cars not
> sold in the US.
> We are looking for the most economical cars that are large enough to carry
> two 6 foot adults and their luggage reasonably comfortably for up to 8 hours
> a day behind the wheel at times.
> Comfortable front seats, low engine and road noise and high fuel economy.
> So, we don't want the tiniest cars because they will be uncomfortable, noisy
> and tiring on long drives and we don't want the largest cars because the
> rental rates will be too high and they will cost too much in fuel usage.
> Recommendations?
On my last trip to Europe we had booked a Volkswagon Borro <?> I was not
familiar with that model but was assured that it could easily handle 5 adults,
which we needed because we needed extra room to drive some friends to
functions. The rest of the time it was just my wife and I in the car. When I
arrived to pick up the car it turned out to be a Gulf ( with TDI diesel
engine). I was a little disappointed when I saw it, but it turned out to be
quite roomy and very comfortable. We drove 4,000 km over two weeks, and I never
once felt uncomfortable. I was quite happy with it, and we got close to 60 mpg
with that car.
May 24th 2004, 2:32 am
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On 24 May 2004 09:08:28 GMT, Jeroen Wijnands
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Max wrote:
>2 adults means you can perhaps use the back seat for luggage as well.
>I'm 6 something (2 meters) and I can drive almost anything in the C
>class (VW Golf, Opel Astra, Ford Focus, Renault Megane) quite
>comfortably for a day. One thing about Diesels you should know, the
>engine noise tends to be a lot lower in frequency, something which
>bothers some people.
We had reserved a Megane for our trip this past January, and were upgraded due
to availability at CDG to a Renault Laguna diesel. This car was just
terrifically comfortable for a three-week, 2700 KM wander around France, and the
diesel was quiet and smooth -- gobs of torque, not much high-end. It would be my
choice for our next trip as well.
-- Larry
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Max wrote:
>2 adults means you can perhaps use the back seat for luggage as well.
>I'm 6 something (2 meters) and I can drive almost anything in the C
>class (VW Golf, Opel Astra, Ford Focus, Renault Megane) quite
>comfortably for a day. One thing about Diesels you should know, the
>engine noise tends to be a lot lower in frequency, something which
>bothers some people.
We had reserved a Megane for our trip this past January, and were upgraded due
to availability at CDG to a Renault Laguna diesel. This car was just
terrifically comfortable for a three-week, 2700 KM wander around France, and the
diesel was quiet and smooth -- gobs of torque, not much high-end. It would be my
choice for our next trip as well.
-- Larry
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May 24th 2004, 2:33 am
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:32:41 -0400, pltrgyst <[email protected]> wrote:
>We had reserved a Megane for our trip this past January, and were upgraded due
>to availability at CDG to a Renault Laguna diesel. This car was just
>terrifically comfortable for a three-week, 2700 KM wander around France, and the
>diesel was quiet and smooth -- gobs of torque, not much high-end. It would be my
>choice for our next trip as well.
>-- Larry
...btw, forgot to mention, I'm 6'3", my wife is 5'10".
-- Larry
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>We had reserved a Megane for our trip this past January, and were upgraded due
>to availability at CDG to a Renault Laguna diesel. This car was just
>terrifically comfortable for a three-week, 2700 KM wander around France, and the
>diesel was quiet and smooth -- gobs of torque, not much high-end. It would be my
>choice for our next trip as well.
>-- Larry
...btw, forgot to mention, I'm 6'3", my wife is 5'10".
-- Larry
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May 24th 2004, 2:34 am
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A Mate extrapolated from data available...
> Ford Focus type vehicle with 2L engine!
> Peugeot 206 - also comes as a diesel.
VW Polo or VW Diesel
> Small European cars drive much
> better than small US cars; much superior interior space usage means
> they're much more comfortable.
>
>
Well, since the the Ford Focus, the VW Golf and Jetta and several other
"World" cars are sold in the US (and where with a couple of exceptions, the
US "small cars" are but off the rack imports redesignated), that's a pretty
rash claim. Basically, aside from the fact that standard transmissions are
unusual in the US and common in Europe (sensible since driving conditions
and driving habits are quite different).
The difference.....none of the "very small" (read sub-subcompact) cars
available in Europe are sold in the uS, not meeting minimal US crash test
standards.
TMO
> Ford Focus type vehicle with 2L engine!
> Peugeot 206 - also comes as a diesel.
VW Polo or VW Diesel
> Small European cars drive much
> better than small US cars; much superior interior space usage means
> they're much more comfortable.
>
>
Well, since the the Ford Focus, the VW Golf and Jetta and several other
"World" cars are sold in the US (and where with a couple of exceptions, the
US "small cars" are but off the rack imports redesignated), that's a pretty
rash claim. Basically, aside from the fact that standard transmissions are
unusual in the US and common in Europe (sensible since driving conditions
and driving habits are quite different).
The difference.....none of the "very small" (read sub-subcompact) cars
available in Europe are sold in the uS, not meeting minimal US crash test
standards.
TMO
