Price of an espresso across Europe
Jun 18th 2003, 8:46 pm
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Re: Price of an espresso across Europe
Luca Logi wrote:
> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
> Italian borders.
Some of the best Pizza I know of is to be had in Split (Croatie). Some
of the worst is in Rome (at the airport...)...
Krist
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> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
> Italian borders.
Some of the best Pizza I know of is to be had in Split (Croatie). Some
of the worst is in Rome (at the airport...)...
Krist
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Jun 18th 2003, 11:46 pm
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:30:00 +0200, [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>Phil Richards wrote:
>> Some good Espresso to be had in this country made by Italian's of
>> course...
>I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
>Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very few
>exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
>espresso.
I have to say something remarkable here, which is that the best cappucino I have
ever had was in - - Russia!
Being from the US, the remarkable thing (to me) is not that a decent cup of
coffee is more expensive in the UK, US, etc. It is like the talking dog. The
surprising thing is that it exists at all. I wish I could recreate the feeling
I got when I had my first cup of French coffee.
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"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
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>Phil Richards wrote:
>> Some good Espresso to be had in this country made by Italian's of
>> course...
>I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
>Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very few
>exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
>espresso.
I have to say something remarkable here, which is that the best cappucino I have
ever had was in - - Russia!
Being from the US, the remarkable thing (to me) is not that a decent cup of
coffee is more expensive in the UK, US, etc. It is like the talking dog. The
surprising thing is that it exists at all. I wish I could recreate the feeling
I got when I had my first cup of French coffee.
--
"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln
Jun 18th 2003, 11:52 pm
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Re: Price of an espresso across Europe
Krist wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Luca Logi wrote:
>
>> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
>> Italian borders.
>
> Some of the best Pizza I know of is to be had in Split (Croatie). Some
> of the worst is in Rome (at the airport...)...
>
> Krist
>
Ahh, but is Pizza really Italian, the debate rages . . .
I have had good Pizza on the Cote d'Azur, but then that is "really" Italy,
right?
> Luca Logi wrote:
>
>> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
>> Italian borders.
>
> Some of the best Pizza I know of is to be had in Split (Croatie). Some
> of the worst is in Rome (at the airport...)...
>
> Krist
>
Ahh, but is Pizza really Italian, the debate rages . . .
I have had good Pizza on the Cote d'Azur, but then that is "really" Italy,
right?
Jun 18th 2003, 11:54 pm
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Luca Logi wrote:
>
> Phil Richards wrote:
>
> > Some good Espresso to be had in this country made by Italian's of
> > course...
>
> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
> Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very few
> exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
> espresso.
This is generally a good policy. For example, in China I only drink tea,
which they know how to make, rather than any sort of coffee, which is
usually made with a powder. However, my husband and I had some good
espresso in London last November, in more than one place.
I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
technique.
Barbara
>
> Phil Richards wrote:
>
> > Some good Espresso to be had in this country made by Italian's of
> > course...
>
> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made outside
> Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very few
> exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
> espresso.
This is generally a good policy. For example, in China I only drink tea,
which they know how to make, rather than any sort of coffee, which is
usually made with a powder. However, my husband and I had some good
espresso in London last November, in more than one place.
I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
technique.
Barbara
Jun 18th 2003, 11:56 pm
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Luca Logi wrote:
>
> Phil Richards wrote:
>
> > > I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> > > necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> > > the UK,
> >
> > About 1 euro in Italy late last year...
>
> In Florence, it is euro 0.80 (standing - 0.85 in luxury bars).
It's also about euro 0.80 where I live.
Barbara
>
> Phil Richards wrote:
>
> > > I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> > > necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> > > the UK,
> >
> > About 1 euro in Italy late last year...
>
> In Florence, it is euro 0.80 (standing - 0.85 in luxury bars).
It's also about euro 0.80 where I live.
Barbara
Jun 19th 2003, 4:16 am
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Milano around the Duomo area 0.99 to E 1.10
"Tim Vanhoof" wrote in message
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> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
> Post your experiences, people.
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
"Tim Vanhoof" wrote in message
news:1fwrb8s.dy3ojq18oj23sN%[email protected]...
> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
> Post your experiences, people.
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
Jun 19th 2003, 4:54 am
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>>>>> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made
outside Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very
few exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
espresso.
I go to Italy at least once a year, but I have never had as good an espresso
(or cappucino) there as the one I get in my kitchen. The cafe bars in Italy
serve in such quantities that, for one thing, they use standard commercial
blends that pale in comparison to the quality of bean and roasting (and
freshness) that I can get locally from Intelligentsia in Chicago. There's
no comparison. When I bring beans from the U.S. to Europe, and drink the
espresso from them side-by-side with Lavazza or Illy, the beans from home
are remarkably richer.
outside Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with very
few exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
espresso.
I go to Italy at least once a year, but I have never had as good an espresso
(or cappucino) there as the one I get in my kitchen. The cafe bars in Italy
serve in such quantities that, for one thing, they use standard commercial
blends that pale in comparison to the quality of bean and roasting (and
freshness) that I can get locally from Intelligentsia in Chicago. There's
no comparison. When I bring beans from the U.S. to Europe, and drink the
espresso from them side-by-side with Lavazza or Illy, the beans from home
are remarkably richer.
Jun 19th 2003, 5:22 am
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Might I suggest that next time you are in Rome you go to Caffe'
Sant'Eustachio in Piazza S. Eustachio and try the espresso. There is nothing
from Chicago that can come close to it.
However, de gustibus non disputandum est...as the old Roman said...you might
not agree.
"Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote in message
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> >>>>> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made
> outside Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with
very
> few exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
> espresso.
> I go to Italy at least once a year, but I have never had as good an
espresso
> (or cappucino) there as the one I get in my kitchen. The cafe bars in
Italy
> serve in such quantities that, for one thing, they use standard commercial
> blends that pale in comparison to the quality of bean and roasting (and
> freshness) that I can get locally from Intelligentsia in Chicago. There's
> no comparison. When I bring beans from the U.S. to Europe, and drink the
> espresso from them side-by-side with Lavazza or Illy, the beans from home
> are remarkably richer.
Sant'Eustachio in Piazza S. Eustachio and try the espresso. There is nothing
from Chicago that can come close to it.
However, de gustibus non disputandum est...as the old Roman said...you might
not agree.
"Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>>>> I am extremely wary of everything with an Italian label but made
> outside Italian borders. I never drink espresso outside Italy as, with
very
> few exceptions, the local coffee is better of what is said to be an
> espresso.
> I go to Italy at least once a year, but I have never had as good an
espresso
> (or cappucino) there as the one I get in my kitchen. The cafe bars in
Italy
> serve in such quantities that, for one thing, they use standard commercial
> blends that pale in comparison to the quality of bean and roasting (and
> freshness) that I can get locally from Intelligentsia in Chicago. There's
> no comparison. When I bring beans from the U.S. to Europe, and drink the
> espresso from them side-by-side with Lavazza or Illy, the beans from home
> are remarkably richer.
Jun 19th 2003, 5:40 am
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:49:50 GMT, [email protected] (Tim Vanhoof)
wrote:
>Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
>I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
>necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
>the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
>yuppies/exiled Europeans.
>Post your experiences, people.
>In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
In london it can be 2-50 and UP UP ,depends on location of shops and
the high rents they have to pay.
the whole thing has become extortionate thanks to the US style coffee
shops where when you buy a cup of coffee you have to support an army
of shareholders and fat cat bosses.
Hence the ridiculous high price
wrote:
>Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
>I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
>necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
>the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
>yuppies/exiled Europeans.
>Post your experiences, people.
>In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
In london it can be 2-50 and UP UP ,depends on location of shops and
the high rents they have to pay.
the whole thing has become extortionate thanks to the US style coffee
shops where when you buy a cup of coffee you have to support an army
of shareholders and fat cat bosses.
Hence the ridiculous high price
Jun 19th 2003, 6:15 am
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:47:06 +0100, Phil Richards
wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:54:44 +0200 Barbara Vaughan
> said...
>> I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
>> the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
>> technique.
>All of which can be found outside of Italy...
Including Italians.
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wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:54:44 +0200 Barbara Vaughan
> said...
>> I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
>> the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
>> technique.
>All of which can be found outside of Italy...
Including Italians.
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Jun 19th 2003, 6:45 am
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:40:03 +0100 Him_Tarzan said...
> In london it can be 2-50 and UP UP ,depends on location of shops and
> the high rents they have to pay.
> the whole thing has become extortionate thanks to the US style coffee
> shops where when you buy a cup of coffee you have to support an army
> of shareholders and fat cat bosses.
That's one reason why I'm not a big fan of Starbucks which have spread
like wildfire here in the UK over the last few years...
--
Phil Richards
London, N4
> In london it can be 2-50 and UP UP ,depends on location of shops and
> the high rents they have to pay.
> the whole thing has become extortionate thanks to the US style coffee
> shops where when you buy a cup of coffee you have to support an army
> of shareholders and fat cat bosses.
That's one reason why I'm not a big fan of Starbucks which have spread
like wildfire here in the UK over the last few years...
--
Phil Richards
London, N4
Jun 19th 2003, 6:47 am
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:54:44 +0200 Barbara Vaughan
said...
> I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
> the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
> technique.
All of which can be found outside of Italy...
--
Phil Richards
London, N4
said...
> I don't think good espresso has to be made by an Italian. But you need
> the right sort of machine and the right sort of coffee, and the right
> technique.
All of which can be found outside of Italy...
--
Phil Richards
London, N4
Jun 19th 2003, 8:24 am
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[email protected] says...
>
> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
>
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
>
> Post your experiences, people.
>
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
>
1.40-1,75 euro over here in nl.
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[email protected] says...
>
> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
>
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
>
> Post your experiences, people.
>
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
>
1.40-1,75 euro over here in nl.
--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards
Jeroen Wijnands
http://spam.pagina.nl
Jun 19th 2003, 2:18 pm
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>>>>> Might I suggest that next time you are in Rome you go to Caffe'
Sant'Eustachio in Piazza S. Eustachio and try the espresso. There is nothing
from Chicago that can come close to it.
Thanks for the suggestion (and I will take any others). I'm looking forward
to it! (Voila--another reason why I have to go to Rome)--thank you Nicola!
Sant'Eustachio in Piazza S. Eustachio and try the espresso. There is nothing
from Chicago that can come close to it.
Thanks for the suggestion (and I will take any others). I'm looking forward
to it! (Voila--another reason why I have to go to Rome)--thank you Nicola!
Jun 19th 2003, 9:19 pm
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Tim Vanhoof a écrit :
> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
> Post your experiences, people.
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
Switzerland: 3 Sfr
Nathalie in in Switzerland
> Can we have a comparison of the price of espresso in Europe?
> I'm guessing that in Italy, where it is apparently regarded as a basic
> necessity of life, a cup of espresso in a coffee bar costs less than in
> the UK, where it is only drunk by cosmopolitans/yuppies/wannabe
> yuppies/exiled Europeans.
> Post your experiences, people.
> In Glasgow, UK it averages about GBP 1.15 at the moment.
Switzerland: 3 Sfr
Nathalie in in Switzerland
