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Pedestrian Streets in Paris?

Old Oct 18th 2004, 3:13 pm
  #46  
Tom Bellhouse
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"Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Deep Frayed Morgues wrote:
    > > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0400, "Tom Bellhouse"
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>"Deep Frayed Morgues" <[email protected]>
    > >>wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > >>
    > >>>On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:39:11 -0400, "Tom Bellhouse"
    > >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>>"Bjorn Olsson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >>>>news:[email protected] le.com...
    > >>>
    > >>>>>non-smoking restaurants in China:
    > >>>>>http://www.smokefreeworld.com/asia-pac.shtml#prc
    > >>>>>Bjorn :)
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Talk about straining at gnats and passing camels...
    > >>>
    > >>>OK, I have heard some weird expressions in my time, but what the
hell
    > >>>does that one mean, and where does it come from?
    > >>>---
    > >>>DFM
    > >>Sorry, my quote was inexact. Here 'tis again:
    > >>"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a
camel."-Matthew
    > >>23:24.
    > > OK, it's a biblical one, but what on earth does it mean??? I might
    > > need to use it one day.
    > > DFM
    > OK I'll try a translation. "Your approach is so weird. You are
bugged
    > by little things but the big stuff blows right by."
========
Great work! Ever think about translating the whole thing? It would
certainly be more legible than the King James version.

Tom
 
Old Oct 18th 2004, 6:19 pm
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Miguel Cruz
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Tom Bellhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Great work! Ever think about translating the whole thing? It would
    > certainly be more legible than the King James version.

Here's a side-by-side Biblificator:

http://bibletools.org//index.cfm/fus...b/opt/parallel

Maybe Frank can work on the next version of the Good New Bible ("And Jesus
was all like 'Hey dudes, what up?' and his posse were all like 'Yo, Jesus'
and they took a cab to Galilee to get some pizza.")

miguel
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Old Oct 20th 2004, 11:22 pm
  #48  
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anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Outside the 3 pedestrian zones, the pedestrian streets are generally
    > > isolated but scattered all over Paris. Some "reduced trafic streets"
    > > are virtually pedestrian in fact (ex : rue Daguerre). In some
    > > districts some small normal
    > > streets see few or virtually no traffic most of the day (ex : North
    > > Marais) because the boulevards are mainly used for heavy transit
    > > traffic.
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm very familiar with the rue daguerre (mo:denfert-rochereau) since I
    > have family in the neighborhood...
    >
    > it's mainly a market street but it's NOT a pedestrian only street... in
    > fact at night it's got heavy truck traffic doing deliveries and if
    > street noise bothers you and you're in one of the little hotels on it
    > you should avoid rooms streetside.
    >
    > but it is a neighborhood I like.... I feel at home there :-}
    >
    > ttyl
    >
    > akia

Hi,
I precise that I don't recommand particularly rue Daguerre to Ellie. I
just gave an example of category. The area near Beaubourg (south of
rue Quincampoix, rue des Lombards) is better IMO for no cars + cafés,
FOR EX.
For those looking for a quiet night your advice about delivery cars at
night in rue Daguerre is usefull.
I precise nevertheless that I was talking ONLY of the part between av.
du Gal Leclerc and rue Boulard + the little rue de Grancey, which are
indicated as "streets subject to restriction" (rues à circulation
réduite) on my 1999 map but which are treated in reality as pedestrian
streets without sidewalks (like near Beaubourg) and even indicated as
pedestrian streets on a 2003 map of my collegue at work (perhaps among
the many works made by the new municipality on the subject). Delivery
and cars of local people with garages are normally allowed even in
pedestrian streets. When I go there I notice nevertheless that rue
Daguerre is virtually empty of cars (some parts of the day
corresponding probably to the periods when there are many pedestrians
passing by).

Friendly

Didier Meurgues
 
Old Oct 20th 2004, 11:45 pm
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Meurgues
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > GG writes:
    >
    > > The pedestrian part runs from the corner near the Ecole Militaire Metro stop
    > > on the Av. de la Motte Picquet for at least the two blocks ending at the
    > > intersection of rue de Grenelle. If I remember, there were a couple of
    > > places with a few tables outdoors.
    >
    > A very few. There's a handful of cafés.
    >
    > > Also, could one of our Parisians tell us whether rue Mouffetard is
    > > pedestrian? It seems to me that at least some of it was, but the Michelin
    > > map I have has the little red arrows indicating traffic direction along its
    > > entire length. I remember at least one cafe with tables outside near the
    > > Pl. de la Contrescarpe.
    >
    > The lower part of the street is primarily pedestrian, with the street
    > blocked to all but local vehicles (and there usually aren't many of
    > those).

According to my 1999... map the South of rue Mouffetard from rue de
l'Epée to St Medard church is effectively a "street subject to
restrictions" (rue à circulation réduite) like the central part near
place de la Contrescarpe. The sidewalks have not been supressed like
in pedestrian streets and the cars can pass. Nevertheless,
http://www.paris.fr/fr/deplacements/...is_respire.asp
says that the street is closed to cars on sundays and "feasts" (?=
jours fériés) from 10H00 to 18H00 all the year. I don't know if it's
linked to a market since it seems that the market has been mooved
nearby on place Monge (????) :
http://www.paris.fr/fr/marches/default.asp

didier Meurgues
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 2:57 am
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    >>I'm very familiar with the rue daguerre (mo:denfert-rochereau) since I
    >>have family in the neighborhood...
    >>it's mainly a market street but it's NOT a pedestrian only street... in
    >>fact at night it's got heavy truck traffic doing deliveries and if
    >>street noise bothers you and you're in one of the little hotels on it
    >>you should avoid rooms streetside.
    >>but it is a neighborhood I like.... I feel at home there :-}

    > Hi,
    > I precise that I don't recommand particularly rue Daguerre to Ellie. I
    > just gave an example of category. The area near Beaubourg (south of
    > rue Quincampoix, rue des Lombards) is better IMO for no cars + cafés,
    > FOR EX.
    > For those looking for a quiet night your advice about delivery cars at
    > night in rue Daguerre is usefull.
    > I precise nevertheless that I was talking ONLY of the part between av.
    > du Gal Leclerc and rue Boulard + the little rue de Grancey, which are
    > indicated as "streets subject to restriction" (rues à circulation
    > réduite) on my 1999 map but which are treated in reality as pedestrian
    > streets without sidewalks (like near Beaubourg) and even indicated as
    > pedestrian streets on a 2003 map of my collegue at work (perhaps among
    > the many works made by the new municipality on the subject). Delivery
    > and cars of local people with garages are normally allowed even in
    > pedestrian streets. When I go there I notice nevertheless that rue
    > Daguerre is virtually empty of cars (some parts of the day
    > corresponding probably to the periods when there are many pedestrians
    > passing by).
    >
    > Friendly
    >
    > Didier Meurgues

Hi,

I understand.

there's just this nutjob that shows up here periodically claiming that
ALL European Cities or ALL US Cities will be car free by 20xx (pick a
random date).

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Old Oct 21st 2004, 5:51 am
  #51  
Ellie C
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meurgues wrote:

    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    >
    >>GG writes:
    >>>The pedestrian part runs from the corner near the Ecole Militaire Metro stop
    >>>on the Av. de la Motte Picquet for at least the two blocks ending at the
    >>>intersection of rue de Grenelle. If I remember, there were a couple of
    >>>places with a few tables outdoors.
    >>A very few. There's a handful of cafés.
    >>>Also, could one of our Parisians tell us whether rue Mouffetard is
    >>>pedestrian? It seems to me that at least some of it was, but the Michelin
    >>>map I have has the little red arrows indicating traffic direction along its
    >>>entire length. I remember at least one cafe with tables outside near the
    >>>Pl. de la Contrescarpe.
    >>The lower part of the street is primarily pedestrian, with the street
    >>blocked to all but local vehicles (and there usually aren't many of
    >>those).
    >
    >
    > According to my 1999... map the South of rue Mouffetard from rue de
    > l'Epée to St Medard church is effectively a "street subject to
    > restrictions" (rue à circulation réduite) like the central part near
    > place de la Contrescarpe. The sidewalks have not been supressed like
    > in pedestrian streets and the cars can pass. Nevertheless,
    > http://www.paris.fr/fr/deplacements/...is_respire.asp
    > says that the street is closed to cars on sundays and "feasts" (?=
    > jours fériés) from 10H00 to 18H00 all the year. I don't know if it's
    > linked to a market since it seems that the market has been mooved
    > nearby on place Monge (????) :
    > http://www.paris.fr/fr/marches/default.asp
    >
    > didier Meurgues
Thanks for the links. They are both very helpful, and the information
about the different markets is fascinating.
 

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