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Pedestrian Streets in Paris?

Old Oct 16th 2004, 8:55 am
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"Ellie C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Ronald Hands wrote:
    > > Ellie C wrote:
    > > We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    > >
    > >> wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.
    > >
    > >
    > > One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near the
    > > Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he mentions it
    > > is pedestrian-only.
    > >
    > > -- Ron
    > I just gave it a look in the Pages Jaunes's "Photos de Villes" section.
    > It looks like the pedestrian part starts at #23/24 and goes to the end
    > of the street, maybe a few blocks. I did see about a dozen or so cars
    > parked there but it looks like there's not constant traffic. It looks
    > like it's mainly a market though. I didn't see a restaurant or café. A
    > good place to start though. Thanks!

The pedestrian part runs from the corner near the Ecole Militaire Metro stop
on the Av. de la Motte Picquet for at least the two blocks ending at the
intersection of rue de Grenelle. If I remember, there were a couple of
places with a few tables outdoors.

Also, could one of our Parisians tell us whether rue Mouffetard is
pedestrian? It seems to me that at least some of it was, but the Michelin
map I have has the little red arrows indicating traffic direction along its
entire length. I remember at least one cafe with tables outside near the
Pl. de la Contrescarpe.

There's a creperie on the pedestrian block bordering the Pl. Stravinsky just
south of the Pompidou center that overlooks the large fountain with all the
colorful, whimsical spinning and water-spouting sculptures. (Off topic for
this subject, but for those inquiring about things children enjoy in Paris,
this fountain was very much enjoyed by my 10 & 11-year-old granddaughters.)

GG
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 10:44 am
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:45:02 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:38:28 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:25:13 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>>On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:56:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>>>> The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >>>>>> And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >>>>>Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
    >>>>In Paris? Not much chance of that.
    >>>Rotterdam is apparently the most polluted place in the world.
    >>Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    >>Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    >>world, a statement I find easy to fathom.
    >It's in a report of a survey done by Envisat, the European Space
    >Agency's earth resources satellite that has made an audit of pollution
    >for the last 12 months. It was reported in the Dutch press and the UK
    >FT yesterday.

OK, it's only for air pollution.

Still, I am surprised by that, and also the concentration around
northern Italy, where I am living. Certainly my lungs have been
feeling just a little fragile in the last few months since I moved
here. I wonder what effect the high oil prices will have in this
regard...
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Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:22 am
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devil writes:

    > They apparently plan to clean up for the olympics. Not sure if it's doable
    > though.

They could probably just forbid all motor vehicles temporarily, which
might do a world of good.

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:23 am
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Ronald Hands writes:

    > One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near the
    > Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he mentions it
    > is pedestrian-only.

No wonder the street is clogged with American tourists these days.

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:23 am
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Ellie C writes:

    > I just gave it a look in the Pages Jaunes's "Photos de Villes" section.
    > It looks like the pedestrian part starts at #23/24 and goes to the end
    > of the street, maybe a few blocks. I did see about a dozen or so cars
    > parked there but it looks like there's not constant traffic. It looks
    > like it's mainly a market though. I didn't see a restaurant or café. A
    > good place to start though. Thanks!

It's just a mostly pedestrian street with a lot of stores (mostly food
stores).

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:24 am
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GG writes:

    > The pedestrian part runs from the corner near the Ecole Militaire Metro stop
    > on the Av. de la Motte Picquet for at least the two blocks ending at the
    > intersection of rue de Grenelle. If I remember, there were a couple of
    > places with a few tables outdoors.

A very few. There's a handful of cafés.

    > Also, could one of our Parisians tell us whether rue Mouffetard is
    > pedestrian? It seems to me that at least some of it was, but the Michelin
    > map I have has the little red arrows indicating traffic direction along its
    > entire length. I remember at least one cafe with tables outside near the
    > Pl. de la Contrescarpe.

The lower part of the street is primarily pedestrian, with the street
blocked to all but local vehicles (and there usually aren't many of
those).

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 12:14 pm
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:22:35 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

    > devil writes:
    >
    >> They apparently plan to clean up for the olympics. Not sure if it's doable
    >> though.
    >
    > They could probably just forbid all motor vehicles temporarily, which
    > might do a world of good.

No vehicles for the olympics? Might be interesting indeed. I guess
overweight tourists might benefit?

Not that they would be terribly happy though?
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 3:50 pm
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Rue Cler is a small market street and has a few delivery trucks in the
early morning and at the end of the day, street cleaning water trucks
come to wash the street but otherwise is closed to traffic- or at least
it used to be. There are lots of little stands- fruit, fish, etc. There
are also a number of little cafes and places to sit outside.
Surprisingly- there is NO SMELL from the stands. It's pristine.

My favorite Paris hotel (Hotel Grand Leveque) is there and each morning,
we'd sit outside of a cafe and have coffee and whatever. It's a lovely
place to just sit and watch a little slice of real Paris. It seemed to
be where the "help" from the rather fancy neighborhood come to buy high
quality fresh food.

I'm not sure it would be a destination to just go and sit or dine.
They're not restaurants- but we always try to stay there. You might want
to check it out!

Enjoy your trip-

Susan



Ellie C wrote:

    > Ronald Hands wrote:
    >
    >> Ellie C wrote:
    >> We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    >>> wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.
    >> One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near the
    >> Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he mentions
    >> it is pedestrian-only.
    >> -- Ron
    >
    > I just gave it a look in the Pages Jaunes's "Photos de Villes" section.
    > It looks like the pedestrian part starts at #23/24 and goes to the end
    > of the street, maybe a few blocks. I did see about a dozen or so cars
    > parked there but it looks like there's not constant traffic. It looks
    > like it's mainly a market though. I didn't see a restaurant or café. A
    > good place to start though. Thanks!
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 9:52 pm
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Susan Wachob writes:

    > My favorite Paris hotel (Hotel Grand Leveque) is there and each morning,
    > we'd sit outside of a cafe and have coffee and whatever. It's a lovely
    > place to just sit and watch a little slice of real Paris.

If watching other Americans walk by is the real Paris, that is.

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 9:55 pm
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:52:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Susan Wachob writes:
    >> My favorite Paris hotel (Hotel Grand Leveque) is there and each morning,
    >> we'd sit outside of a cafe and have coffee and whatever. It's a lovely
    >> place to just sit and watch a little slice of real Paris.
    >If watching other Americans walk by is the real Paris, that is.

Since they have been doing since before you were born, why not accept
it as real Paris.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:11 pm
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
    > Deep Frayed Morgues <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    >>Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    >>world, a statement I find easy to fathom.
    >
    >
    > I was just annoying all of you from China a week ago. In Beijing the
    > pollution was so bad that by mid-afternoon that I could not see buildings
    > three streets away. At all. It made navigating the city an extra challenge,
    > since I couldn't read the signs either (language, not pollution).
    >
    > I've really never seen anything like it. Even in indoor spaces, if large
    > enough, the air was visibly thick and murky (except for air-conditioned
    > buildings like shopping malls).
    >
    > Have a look at this photo:
    >
    > http://travel.u.nu/photo-cn-12.php
    >
    > The closest part of the building is pretty much across the street from where
    > I was standing, and it's already noticeably obscured by the haze. The
    > pointy one in the background is at the end of the block. Behind that one
    > (across another street) there are other tall buildings, and you can't see
    > them at all, except for a slight hint at the very left edge of the frame
    > near the horizon line.
    >
    > miguel
Amazing! Note to self: Don't be planning a trip to China any time soon.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 11:21 pm
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Susan Wachob wrote:

    >
    > Rue Cler is a small market street and has a few delivery trucks in the
    > early morning and at the end of the day, street cleaning water trucks
    > come to wash the street but otherwise is closed to traffic- or at least
    > it used to be. There are lots of little stands- fruit, fish, etc. There
    > are also a number of little cafes and places to sit outside.
    > Surprisingly- there is NO SMELL from the stands. It's pristine.
    >
    > My favorite Paris hotel (Hotel Grand Leveque) is there and each morning,
    > we'd sit outside of a cafe and have coffee and whatever. It's a lovely
    > place to just sit and watch a little slice of real Paris. It seemed to
    > be where the "help" from the rather fancy neighborhood come to buy high
    > quality fresh food.
    >
    > I'm not sure it would be a destination to just go and sit or dine.
    > They're not restaurants- but we always try to stay there. You might want
    > to check it out!
    >
    > Enjoy your trip-
    >
    > Susan
    >
    >
    >
    > Ellie C wrote:
    >
    >> Ronald Hands wrote:
    >>> Ellie C wrote:
    >>> We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    >>>> wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.
    >>> One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near
    >>> the Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he
    >>> mentions it is pedestrian-only.
    >>> -- Ron
    >> I just gave it a look in the Pages Jaunes's "Photos de Villes"
    >> section. It looks like the pedestrian part starts at #23/24 and goes
    >> to the end of the street, maybe a few blocks. I did see about a dozen
    >> or so cars parked there but it looks like there's not constant
    >> traffic. It looks like it's mainly a market though. I didn't see a
    >> restaurant or café. A good place to start though. Thanks!

Sounds like just the sort of hotel we'll be looking for. Interestingly,
it's just around the corner from where I stayed the first time I was inj
Paris, in 1992. The hotel was the Hotel France but I don't think it
exists anymore. I like that area, though. Thanks!
 
Old Oct 17th 2004, 12:27 am
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:50:46 GMT, Susan Wachob
<[email protected]> wrote:
    >Rue Cler is a small market street and has a few delivery trucks in the
    >early morning and at the end of the day, street cleaning water trucks
    >come to wash the street but otherwise is closed to traffic- or at least
    >it used to be. There are lots of little stands- fruit, fish, etc. There
    >are also a number of little cafes and places to sit outside.
    >Surprisingly- there is NO SMELL from the stands. It's pristine.

No smell except for the place that sells the roasted chickens...
that fragrance travels down the street and always makes me
hungry, and I don't even particularly like chicken!

Darby Jo
 
Old Oct 17th 2004, 5:44 am
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[email protected] writes:

    > Since they have been doing since before you were born, why not accept
    > it as real Paris.

The rue Cler has only recently become popular with Americans, as far as
I can tell.

I don't recall saying when I was born.

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Old Oct 17th 2004, 6:48 am
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:44:22 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >[email protected] writes:
    >> Since they have been doing since before you were born, why not accept
    >> it as real Paris.
    >The rue Cler has only recently become popular with Americans, as far as
    >I can tell.
    >I don't recall saying when I was born.

I guessed within a 100 years.
 

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