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Pedestrian Streets in Paris?

Old Oct 15th 2004, 8:42 pm
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Ellie C
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We were in Narbonne yesterday and were thrilled to find a fairly large
area of the city where there are little shops and restaurants and no
cars. What a treat to sit and drink coffee without the addition of
diesel fumes. We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.
 
Old Oct 15th 2004, 9:46 pm
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Ellie C writes:

    > We were in Narbonne yesterday and were thrilled to find a fairly large
    > area of the city where there are little shops and restaurants and no
    > cars. What a treat to sit and drink coffee without the addition of
    > diesel fumes. We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    > wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.

There are, although perhaps not as many as some would like to see.

There's a large pedestrian area in the Latin Quarter. There are such
areas in Montmartre, Bercy, the Forum, and at other locations. They
usually cover half a dozen streets or so. You're almost never that far
from traffic, though, and Paris is a city with a lot of traffic (one
thing you don't hear in movies about Paris is the _constant_ traffic
noise--it's edited out in post-production).

La Défense is a very large pedestrian's-only area which is rather nice,
but it's not actually in Paris, and it's very modern, not really
Parisian in the classic style at all.

The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.

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Old Oct 15th 2004, 10:53 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    >La Défense is a very large pedestrian's-only area which is rather nice,
    >but it's not actually in Paris, and it's very modern, not really
    >Parisian in the classic style at all.
Modern French architecture, and rather nice?

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Old Oct 15th 2004, 11:21 pm
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Ellie C
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Mxsmanic wrote:
    > Ellie C writes:
    >
    > There are, although perhaps not as many as some would like to see.
    >
    > There's a large pedestrian area in the Latin Quarter. There are such
    > areas in Montmartre, Bercy, the Forum, and at other locations. They
    > usually cover half a dozen streets or so. You're almost never that far
    > from traffic, though, and Paris is a city with a lot of traffic (one
    > thing you don't hear in movies about Paris is the _constant_ traffic
    > noise--it's edited out in post-production).
    >
    > La Défense is a very large pedestrian's-only area which is rather nice,
    > but it's not actually in Paris, and it's very modern, not really
    > Parisian in the classic style at all.

La Défense isn't the sort of thing I had in mind. Although I love the
look of the arch, the area around it doesn't seem to have much going on
other than kids skateboarding. Of course, I was last there about 10
years ago so this may be different now. But I'm looking for someplace
nearer to the center of Paris.
    >
    > The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    > And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
 
Old Oct 15th 2004, 11:56 pm
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Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic wrote:

    >> The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >> And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.

In Paris? Not much chance of that.

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 12:25 am
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:56:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >>> And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >>Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
    >In Paris? Not much chance of that.

Rotterdam is apparently the most polluted place in the world.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 12:38 am
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Deep Frayed Morgues
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:25:13 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:56:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>> The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >>>> And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >>>Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
    >>In Paris? Not much chance of that.
    >Rotterdam is apparently the most polluted place in the world.

Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
world, a statement I find easy to fathom.
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Old Oct 16th 2004, 12:45 am
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:38:28 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:25:13 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:56:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>>> The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >>>>> And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >>>>Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
    >>>In Paris? Not much chance of that.
    >>Rotterdam is apparently the most polluted place in the world.
    >Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    >Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    >world, a statement I find easy to fathom.

It's in a report of a survey done by Envisat, the European Space
Agency's earth resources satellite that has made an audit of pollution
for the last 12 months. It was reported in the Dutch press and the UK
FT yesterday.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 4:23 am
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Ellie C wrote:
We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    > wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.

One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near the
Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he mentions it
is pedestrian-only.

-- Ron
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 5:14 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:

    > >>Rotterdam is apparently the most polluted place in the world.
    > >
    > >Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    > >Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    > >world, a statement I find easy to fathom.
    >
    > It's in a report of a survey done by Envisat, the European Space
    > Agency's earth resources satellite that has made an audit of pollution
    > for the last 12 months. It was reported in the Dutch press and the UK
    > FT yesterday.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W22652B89

or

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_..._id=19&story_i
d=12892&name=Randstad+has+world's+worst+NO2+pollut ion

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 5:18 am
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Des O'Donoghue
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Ellie C wrote:
    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >
    >> Ellie C writes:
    >> There are, although perhaps not as many as some would like to see.
    >> There's a large pedestrian area in the Latin Quarter. There are such
    >> areas in Montmartre, Bercy, the Forum, and at other locations. They
    >> usually cover half a dozen streets or so. You're almost never that far
    >> from traffic, though, and Paris is a city with a lot of traffic (one
    >> thing you don't hear in movies about Paris is the _constant_ traffic
    >> noise--it's edited out in post-production).
    >> La Défense is a very large pedestrian's-only area which is rather nice,
    >> but it's not actually in Paris, and it's very modern, not really
    >> Parisian in the classic style at all.
    >
    >
    > La Défense isn't the sort of thing I had in mind. Although I love the
    > look of the arch, the area around it doesn't seem to have much going on
    > other than kids skateboarding. Of course, I was last there about 10
    > years ago so this may be different now. But I'm looking for someplace
    > nearer to the center of Paris.

Last year from around mid-November they had a large Christmas market
there which added a bit of atmosphere and nice smells.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 5:43 am
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Ellie C
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:
    > Ellie C <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>The pedestrian areas, such as they are, are nevertheless quite nice.
    >>>And even many areas that allow cars are still very charming.
    >>Although charm is nice, I'm looking more for absence of exhaust fumes.
    >
    >
    > In Paris? Not much chance of that.
    >
Unfortunately true. But I do find that the pollution is less distressing
if you are not right near the cars. Perhaps the particle pollution
doesn't carry as far as the NO2. Even here in my small town the
pollution in the main steet makes me cough unless there happen to be no
cars at all. But once I get about 10 meters away from the road the air
is breathable. I'm particularly sensitive, I guess, but there seems to
be no changing that.
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 5:58 am
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Deep Frayed Morgues <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    > Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    > world, a statement I find easy to fathom.

I was just annoying all of you from China a week ago. In Beijing the
pollution was so bad that by mid-afternoon that I could not see buildings
three streets away. At all. It made navigating the city an extra challenge,
since I couldn't read the signs either (language, not pollution).

I've really never seen anything like it. Even in indoor spaces, if large
enough, the air was visibly thick and murky (except for air-conditioned
buildings like shopping malls).

Have a look at this photo:

http://travel.u.nu/photo-cn-12.php

The closest part of the building is pretty much across the street from where
I was standing, and it's already noticeably obscured by the haze. The
pointy one in the background is at the end of the block. Behind that one
(across another street) there are other tall buildings, and you can't see
them at all, except for a slight hint at the very left edge of the frame
near the horizon line.

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Old Oct 16th 2004, 6:11 am
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Ellie C
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Ronald Hands wrote:

    > Ellie C wrote:
    > We're planning on going to paris in a few weeks and I'm
    >
    >> wondering if there are car free shopping/restaurant areas in Paris.
    >
    >
    > One of Rick Steves' favorite haunts is Rue Cler, in the 7th near the
    > Eiffel Tower (if I have my geography right) and I believe he mentions it
    > is pedestrian-only.
    >
    > -- Ron
I just gave it a look in the Pages Jaunes's "Photos de Villes" section.
It looks like the pedestrian part starts at #23/24 and goes to the end
of the street, maybe a few blocks. I did see about a dozen or so cars
parked there but it looks like there's not constant traffic. It looks
like it's mainly a market though. I didn't see a restaurant or café. A
good place to start though. Thanks!
 
Old Oct 16th 2004, 7:09 am
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:58:43 -0500, Miguel Cruz wrote:

    > Deep Frayed Morgues <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Nah, I can't possibly believe that. Ever been to China? I read in
    >> Colours magazine that it has 9 of the 10 most polluted cities in the
    >> world, a statement I find easy to fathom.
    >
    > I was just annoying all of you from China a week ago. In Beijing the
    > pollution was so bad that by mid-afternoon that I could not see buildings
    > three streets away. At all. It made navigating the city an extra challenge,
    > since I couldn't read the signs either (language, not pollution).
    >
    > I've really never seen anything like it. Even in indoor spaces, if large
    > enough, the air was visibly thick and murky (except for air-conditioned
    > buildings like shopping malls).
    >
    > Have a look at this photo:
    >
    > http://travel.u.nu/photo-cn-12.php
    >
    > The closest part of the building is pretty much across the street from where
    > I was standing, and it's already noticeably obscured by the haze. The
    > pointy one in the background is at the end of the block. Behind that one
    > (across another street) there are other tall buildings, and you can't see
    > them at all, except for a slight hint at the very left edge of the frame
    > near the horizon line.


Must be fairly standard. I was there in July and it was the same or
possibly even worse.

They apparently plan to clean up for the olympics. Not sure if it's doable
though.
 

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