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Hi all

I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and Venice
(3d).

I have checked the weather forecast for next week but it looks very
cold for me. But my friend insists that it is not that cold. (I like
warm climate! who don't).
Here the beautiful spring has come and sakura viewing is over. How is
in Europe esp Paris and Venice. Should I bring some winter clothing.

I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence and
cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you that I may
need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a place, but
consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near possible future.

I am not much exposed to art but I like architecture and History.

Any advice on logistics, tips and places to see will be of great help.

thanks in advance

-qq

Ken Blake

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[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:

    > I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and
    > Venice
    > (3d).

    > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to
    > Florence and
    > cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days.


I think that's a bad bargain. Once you factor in the travel
time, you will have a lot less than a whole day in Florence, but
you will lose a whole day in Venice.

And even three days will only enough time to let you see the
highlights of Venice.

I think you should choose either Venice or Florence, but not try
to see both in so short a time.

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Rog

<[email protected]> wrote:
    > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence
    > and cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you
    > that I may need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a
    > place, but consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near
    > possible future.

I disagree with Ken on this. IMO, you can easily hit the highlights
and get a feel for Venice in 2 days. Its small and compact. You
can walk from one end to the other in 45 minutes (using walkways,
not the canals). A Eurostar train from Venice to Florence is only
3 hours.

Last time, we took a night train, arrived in Venice @8AM, and left
at 4PM for Florence. Admittedly, too short, but we adore Florence
and felt our time was better spent there. In Florence, the must-sees
are the Accademia ("David"), Il Domo & Uffizi Gallery, all of which
can be done in a day. =R=

Go Fig

In article <[email protected]>, Rog'
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence
    > > and cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you
    > > that I may need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a
    > > place, but consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near
    > > possible future.
    >
    > I disagree with Ken on this. IMO, you can easily hit the highlights
    > and get a feel for Venice in 2 days.

I agree with you, it can be done and if you don't plan to return
soon... I would suggest it.

Plan your train travel wisely, early evening/early morning, consider
pre-paying for the Uffizi(by-pass line) and if you have certain
attraction you want to see... spend the time now and plot them out in
an efficient way on a map and the required transportation needed for
them.

Despite what some may say here, the majority of Venice visitors are DAY
visitors... I'll bet they are glad they spent the day and effort.

jay
Tue Apr 12, 2005
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    > Its small and compact. You
    > can walk from one end to the other in 45 minutes (using walkways,
    > not the canals). A Eurostar train from Venice to Florence is only
    > 3 hours.
    >
    > Last time, we took a night train, arrived in Venice @8AM, and left
    > at 4PM for Florence. Admittedly, too short, but we adore Florence
    > and felt our time was better spent there. In Florence, the must-sees
    > are the Accademia ("David"), Il Domo & Uffizi Gallery, all of which
    > can be done in a day. =R=
    >

Mxsmanic

[email protected] writes:

    > I have checked the weather forecast for next week but it looks very
    > cold for me.

Weather forecasts for Europe are not reliable more than about 48 hours
in advance, because the climate is so variable.

    > But my friend insists that it is not that cold.

At this time of year, normal daytime highs in Paris are around 14.5° C
(56° F) and lows get down to 6.7° C (45° F). However, it is currently a
bit warmer than that and recent years have been increasingly warm in all
seasons, and even hot during the summer.

    > I like warm climate! who don't.

I don't. But all climates will be warm or hot in a few years.

    > Here the beautiful spring has come and sakura viewing is over. How is
    > in Europe esp Paris and Venice. Should I bring some winter clothing.

Bring layers of clothing that you can add or remove depending on the
temperature, as the climate can vary greatly from one day to the next.

--
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Chancellor Of The Duchy Of Besses O' Th' Barn

Ken Blake <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In news:[email protected] ups.com,
    > [email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
    >
    > > I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and
    > > Venice
    > > (3d).
    >
    > > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to
    > > Florence and
    > > cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days.
    >
    >
    > I think that's a bad bargain. Once you factor in the travel
    > time, you will have a lot less than a whole day in Florence, but
    > you will lose a whole day in Venice.
    >
    > And even three days will only enough time to let you see the
    > highlights of Venice.

I don't agree with that. We spent three days in Venice, and I'd say we
saw and visited the highlights, and that even included an afternoon
'wasted' on the beach at the Lido. Will you see everything in three
days? No, but it's certainly enough time for a good experience there
IMO. In fact, to tell the truth three days was enough for me in Venice,
but it was the second half of June and getting busy.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Gerald

Have you considered how much time you will actually be in each place,
and how much of your time will be spent traveling from one place to
another? It will take the better part of a full day Paris-Venice,
unless you take the sleeper.

Venice-florence is close to 3 hrs travel time. At least 2 hrs of the
scenery is very boring. Given an hour on each side to prep for
travel, you burned 10 hrs.

There is plenty to see in Venice for any with any interests outside of
TV and celeberties.

On 12 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Hi all
    >I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and Venice
    >(3d).
    >I have checked the weather forecast for next week but it looks very
    >cold for me. But my friend insists that it is not that cold. (I like
    >warm climate! who don't).
    >Here the beautiful spring has come and sakura viewing is over. How is
    >in Europe esp Paris and Venice. Should I bring some winter clothing.
    >I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence and
    >cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you that I may
    >need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a place, but
    >consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near possible future.
    >I am not much exposed to art but I like architecture and History.
    >Any advice on logistics, tips and places to see will be of great help.
    >thanks in advance
    >
    >-qq

oneofcold

Two days is enough in Venice.

Since you're not really interested in art, I'd recommend an extra day
in Paris rather than going to Florence.

    >From Paris you should consider day trips to Versailles and Chartres.

Bob Fusillo

Check weather.com for forecasts and averages. The average in Venice right
now is low 60's F. The 10 day prediction pretty well holds to this.
rjf

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
    > Hi all
    > I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and Venice
    > (3d).
    > I have checked the weather forecast for next week but it looks very
    > cold for me. But my friend insists that it is not that cold. (I like
    > warm climate! who don't).
    > Here the beautiful spring has come and sakura viewing is over. How is
    > in Europe esp Paris and Venice. Should I bring some winter clothing.
    > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence and
    > cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you that I may
    > need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a place, but
    > consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near possible future.
    > I am not much exposed to art but I like architecture and History.
    > Any advice on logistics, tips and places to see will be of great help.
    > thanks in advance
    > -qq

Ken Blake

In news:[email protected],
Rog' <[email protected]> typed:

    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to
    >> Florence
    >> and cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you
    >> that I may need to spend at least few days to have a feel
    >> about a
    >> place, but consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near
    >> possible future.
    > I disagree with Ken on this. IMO, you can easily hit the
    > highlights
    > and get a feel for Venice in 2 days.


A feel for it? Yes. But you are going to miss much of what's
there.


    > Its small and compact. You
    > can walk from one end to the other in 45 minutes (using
    > walkways,
    > not the canals). A Eurostar train from Venice to Florence is
    > only
    > 3 hours.


Three hours in each direction is a total of six hours. Add the
time getting to and from the stations and arriving early so you
don't miss the trains, you have a minimum of 8 hours or so, and
likely more. That doesn't leave a whole lot of time in a day to
spend in Florence.


    > Last time, we took a night train, arrived in Venice @8AM, and
    > left
    > at 4PM for Florence. Admittedly, too short, but we adore
    > Florence
    > and felt our time was better spent there.


That's fine. If you prefer Florence to Venice, then that's where
you should go. Although I personally prefer Venice, my point
wasn't that the OP should go there instead of Florence, but that,
with so little time, he should choose one of the two.


    > In Florence, the must-sees
    > are the Accademia ("David"), Il Domo


That's "Duomo."


    > & Uffizi Gallery, all of which
    > can be done in a day. =R=


Yes, but much of that day will be spent waiting in lines. Each to
his own, but I would find a day spent mostly on trains and in
lines to be a very tiring and unpleasant one.

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Deep Foiled Malls

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:18:08 -0700, "Ken Blake"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >That's "Duomo."

That's "Il Duomo".

    :o)
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Deep Foiled Malls <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
typed:

    > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:18:08 -0700, "Ken Blake"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> That's "Duomo."
    > That's "Il Duomo".


Of course, but he did spell "Il" correctly. I was pointing out
that "Duomo" was misspelled.

I don't like to correct other's spelling, but when it's the thing
being talked about and recommended, there's always a risk that
with the wrong spelling, he may not be able to find it.

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Rog

"Ken Blake" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> That's "Duomo."

Don't whip me, massah! :-) =R=

Ken Blake

In news:[email protected],
Rog' <[email protected]> typed:

    > "Ken Blake" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> That's "Duomo."
    > Don't whip me, massah! :-) =R=


Of course not. My point was not to castigate you for an error,
but to make the OP aware if the correct spelling. If he doesn't
have the correct name, he may have trouble finding it.

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qqcq6s59

Hi all

Thanks a lot for all you replies,

I am taking ryan air to and out of Venice. so I will not be spending
much of time travelling.

My Florence trip is also to see the scenery and the Europe outside of
cities though Train. I do not want to miss the travel by train (long
distance, outside Metros).

I can not say I am not interested in art. I am never exposed to it. so
I don't know how to appreciate it. I have never visited an art gallery
in my life nor an exhibition. But read a lot about people Michael
Angelo and others.

I am planning to start early and leave Late in the evening to
compensate for some time.

I wanted to have some feel/Introduction about Europe, in this trip as
being the first. In Art, Architecture, Culture, People, Food.

I hope I can visit again to enjoy and immerse into Europe sometime
later.

Once again thanks for your replies.

-qq


Bob Fusillo wrote:
    > Check weather.com for forecasts and averages. The average in Venice
right
    > now is low 60's F. The 10 day prediction pretty well holds to this.
    > rjf
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] ups.com...
    > > Hi all
    > >
    > > I am visiting Europe and spending next week in Paris (4d)and Venice
    > > (3d).
    > >
    > > I have checked the weather forecast for next week but it looks very
    > > cold for me. But my friend insists that it is not that cold. (I
like
    > > warm climate! who don't).
    > > Here the beautiful spring has come and sakura viewing is over. How
is
    > > in Europe esp Paris and Venice. Should I bring some winter
clothing.
    > >
    > > I am wondering whether it is worth to plan a day trip to Florence
and
    > > cutback my Venice Plan to 2 days. I agree with most of you that I
may
    > > need to spend at least few days to have a feel about a place, but
    > > consider I may not comeback to Europe in the near possible future.
    > >
    > > I am not much exposed to art but I like architecture and History.
    > >
    > > Any advice on logistics, tips and places to see will be of great
help.
    > >
    > > thanks in advance
    > >
    > > -qq
    > >