Paris Metro ?
Aug 3rd 2004, 2:05 am
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Paris Metro ?
Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
do I have to exit at another station ?
do I have to exit at another station ?
Aug 3rd 2004, 2:33 am
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Wanderingjew698 schrieb:
> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
> do I have to exit at another station ?
AFAIR there are no ticket checks at the exit; you just pass the turnstile
without inserting your ticket.
However, there _are_ ticket checks at the exit of RER stations so be
careful to use a genuine Metro exit.
I don't know if there are roving fare inspectors on the Metro, and what
they would do if they caught you with a ticket cancelled several hours ago.
... Martin
> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
> do I have to exit at another station ?
AFAIR there are no ticket checks at the exit; you just pass the turnstile
without inserting your ticket.
However, there _are_ ticket checks at the exit of RER stations so be
careful to use a genuine Metro exit.
I don't know if there are roving fare inspectors on the Metro, and what
they would do if they caught you with a ticket cancelled several hours ago.
... Martin
Aug 3rd 2004, 5:10 am
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Wanderingjew698 writes:
> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
> do I have to exit at another station ?
Trips in the Métro must be completed within 2 hours. There are no
checks at the exit turnstiles of Métro stations, however. RER stations
do check tickets at exits, but I don't know if the system is actually
programmed to check for the 2-hour limitation. You can exit at the same
station at which you entered without restriction.
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> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
> do I have to exit at another station ?
Trips in the Métro must be completed within 2 hours. There are no
checks at the exit turnstiles of Métro stations, however. RER stations
do check tickets at exits, but I don't know if the system is actually
programmed to check for the 2-hour limitation. You can exit at the same
station at which you entered without restriction.
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Aug 3rd 2004, 5:19 am
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[email protected] (Wanderingjew698) wrote in
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> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same
> station or do I have to exit at another station ?
>
The real question is, why, unless you are an itinerant musician or puppet
theater operator, would you want to ride the Metro for 3 hours? There is
little to see, taking the same ticket and riding the bus around town would
actually let you experience some Paris.
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> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same
> station or do I have to exit at another station ?
>
The real question is, why, unless you are an itinerant musician or puppet
theater operator, would you want to ride the Metro for 3 hours? There is
little to see, taking the same ticket and riding the bus around town would
actually let you experience some Paris.
Aug 3rd 2004, 5:48 am
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On 2004-08-03 15:33:18 +0100, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]> said:
> Wanderingjew698 schrieb:
>
>> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
>> do I have to exit at another station ?
>
> AFAIR there are no ticket checks at the exit; you just pass the turnstile
> without inserting your ticket.
>
> However, there _are_ ticket checks at the exit of RER stations so be
> careful to use a genuine Metro exit.
>
> I don't know if there are roving fare inspectors on the Metro, and what
> they would do if they caught you with a ticket cancelled several hours
> ago.
>
> ... Martin
I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
> Wanderingjew698 schrieb:
>
>> Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same station or
>> do I have to exit at another station ?
>
> AFAIR there are no ticket checks at the exit; you just pass the turnstile
> without inserting your ticket.
>
> However, there _are_ ticket checks at the exit of RER stations so be
> careful to use a genuine Metro exit.
>
> I don't know if there are roving fare inspectors on the Metro, and what
> they would do if they caught you with a ticket cancelled several hours
> ago.
>
> ... Martin
I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
Aug 3rd 2004, 6:02 am
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SampleX <> writes:
> I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
> the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
> to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
> occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
Inspections are common. Half a dozen agents in avocado-colored RATP
suits plus a few transit police (depending on the place and hour), and
often a few plainclothes agents milling around nearby. Some people are
more likely to be inspected then others--not everyone is stopped. If
you are a pretty female and the inspectors are male, they'll often let
you pass or tolerate all sorts of excuses for not having a valid ticket.
True also for many types of tourists.
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> I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
> the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
> to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
> occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
Inspections are common. Half a dozen agents in avocado-colored RATP
suits plus a few transit police (depending on the place and hour), and
often a few plainclothes agents milling around nearby. Some people are
more likely to be inspected then others--not everyone is stopped. If
you are a pretty female and the inspectors are male, they'll often let
you pass or tolerate all sorts of excuses for not having a valid ticket.
True also for many types of tourists.
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Aug 4th 2004, 6:54 am
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"jcoulter" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> [email protected] (Wanderingjew698) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same
> > station or do I have to exit at another station ?
> >
> The real question is, why, unless you are an itinerant musician or puppet
> theater operator, would you want to ride the Metro for 3 hours? There is
> little to see, taking the same ticket and riding the bus around town would
> actually let you experience some Paris.
Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
the whole system.
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Wanderingjew698) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> > Could I buy a 1 ride ticket ride for 3-4 hours then exit at the same
> > station or do I have to exit at another station ?
> >
> The real question is, why, unless you are an itinerant musician or puppet
> theater operator, would you want to ride the Metro for 3 hours? There is
> little to see, taking the same ticket and riding the bus around town would
> actually let you experience some Paris.
Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
the whole system.
Aug 4th 2004, 9:57 am
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I've got a metro story for you. In the summer of 2002 I was doing a
summer course at The Sorbonne. I bought a carte orange each week.
I rode the metro often and it really annoyed that it seemed like I
was the only one who actually paid for it.
One night I was coming home, got off the metro, walked up a stairway,
turned the corner, and faced a line of transit cops checking tickets.
Finally! I thought, nail those deadbeats. When they got to me I pulled
out my carte orange. Come with me, the wormy little transit cop said.
My French was not great but he said that I was being fined for not
having my picture pasted in the ticket holder! We went back and forth
angrily for about 15 minutes. "La guerre contre les gens qui paye!" I
said. He got his sergeant at that point and walked me back to the
platform and pointed to a 3 foot by 3 foot poster with the rules of
the Metro. I had not read this poster, and I do not recall the ticket
vendor telling me of any conditions for the carte orange. At that point
I gave up. It was an instant 20 euro fine on my credit card. The worm
glowed with pride, like he had caught a really big fish.
The next day I went to a copy shop, made a copy of a picture, and
pasted it in.
When I got home I challenged the fine with my credit card company. I
argued that the "transaction" was conducted in a language I did not
speak and, in addition, I had not signed or consented to anything,
and had not been informed of any special conditions for the carte
orange by the Metro employee who sold it to me.
I won the challenge. It probably helped that I bought the carte orange
with the same credit card and could prove that I actually paid.
The next time I bought a carte orange I read the rules. It seems that
not only is your picture required in the holder but the serial number
on the holder must also be written on the ticket itself!
Mxsmanic wrote:
> SampleX <> writes:
>
>
>>I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
>>the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
>>to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
>>occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
>
>
> Inspections are common. Half a dozen agents in avocado-colored RATP
> suits plus a few transit police (depending on the place and hour), and
> often a few plainclothes agents milling around nearby. Some people are
> more likely to be inspected then others--not everyone is stopped. If
> you are a pretty female and the inspectors are male, they'll often let
> you pass or tolerate all sorts of excuses for not having a valid ticket.
> True also for many types of tourists.
>
--
Patrick Hernan [email protected]
EECS Graduate Admissions phone: (510) 642-9265
U.C. Berkeley fax: (510) 642-7644
Berkeley CA 94720-1770 http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Grad/
summer course at The Sorbonne. I bought a carte orange each week.
I rode the metro often and it really annoyed that it seemed like I
was the only one who actually paid for it.
One night I was coming home, got off the metro, walked up a stairway,
turned the corner, and faced a line of transit cops checking tickets.
Finally! I thought, nail those deadbeats. When they got to me I pulled
out my carte orange. Come with me, the wormy little transit cop said.
My French was not great but he said that I was being fined for not
having my picture pasted in the ticket holder! We went back and forth
angrily for about 15 minutes. "La guerre contre les gens qui paye!" I
said. He got his sergeant at that point and walked me back to the
platform and pointed to a 3 foot by 3 foot poster with the rules of
the Metro. I had not read this poster, and I do not recall the ticket
vendor telling me of any conditions for the carte orange. At that point
I gave up. It was an instant 20 euro fine on my credit card. The worm
glowed with pride, like he had caught a really big fish.
The next day I went to a copy shop, made a copy of a picture, and
pasted it in.
When I got home I challenged the fine with my credit card company. I
argued that the "transaction" was conducted in a language I did not
speak and, in addition, I had not signed or consented to anything,
and had not been informed of any special conditions for the carte
orange by the Metro employee who sold it to me.
I won the challenge. It probably helped that I bought the carte orange
with the same credit card and could prove that I actually paid.
The next time I bought a carte orange I read the rules. It seems that
not only is your picture required in the holder but the serial number
on the holder must also be written on the ticket itself!
Mxsmanic wrote:
> SampleX <> writes:
>
>
>>I've had inspections twice on the Paris Metro. They were conducted by
>>the Metro Police. They are not particularly regular, but you don't want
>>to feel like a pillock with a couple of armed gendarmes there and the
>>occasional muzzled alsatian eyeing you up and down.
>
>
> Inspections are common. Half a dozen agents in avocado-colored RATP
> suits plus a few transit police (depending on the place and hour), and
> often a few plainclothes agents milling around nearby. Some people are
> more likely to be inspected then others--not everyone is stopped. If
> you are a pretty female and the inspectors are male, they'll often let
> you pass or tolerate all sorts of excuses for not having a valid ticket.
> True also for many types of tourists.
>
--
Patrick Hernan [email protected]
EECS Graduate Admissions phone: (510) 642-9265
U.C. Berkeley fax: (510) 642-7644
Berkeley CA 94720-1770 http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Grad/
Aug 4th 2004, 4:40 pm
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Patrick Hernan writes:
> The next time I bought a carte orange I read the rules. It seems that
> not only is your picture required in the holder but the serial number
> on the holder must also be written on the ticket itself!
It's a good idea to always read the rules, instead of trying to justify
doing things wrong.
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> The next time I bought a carte orange I read the rules. It seems that
> not only is your picture required in the holder but the serial number
> on the holder must also be written on the ticket itself!
It's a good idea to always read the rules, instead of trying to justify
doing things wrong.
--
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Aug 4th 2004, 4:41 pm
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Lennart Petersen writes:
> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
> the whole system.
Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
purpose.
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> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
> the whole system.
Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
purpose.
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Aug 4th 2004, 5:25 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lennart Petersen writes:
>> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
>> the whole system.
> Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
> that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
> purpose.
What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
miguel
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> Lennart Petersen writes:
>> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
>> the whole system.
> Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
> that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
> purpose.
What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
miguel
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Aug 4th 2004, 10:04 pm
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Miguel Cruz writes:
> What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
You don't have to be wealthy to buy a Métro ticket. Any anyone who can
spend a day riding the Métro just out of personal interest in the Métro
obviously is not hurting for money.
The Métro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
ticket.
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> What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
You don't have to be wealthy to buy a Métro ticket. Any anyone who can
spend a day riding the Métro just out of personal interest in the Métro
obviously is not hurting for money.
The Métro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
ticket.
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Aug 4th 2004, 11:26 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz writes:
> > What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
{ snip }
> The M?tro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
> shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
> through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
> ticket.
How do you know that she can 'afford' it ?
> Miguel Cruz writes:
> > What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
{ snip }
> The M?tro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
> shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
> through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
> ticket.
How do you know that she can 'afford' it ?
Aug 5th 2004, 12:01 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Miguel Cruz writes:
> > What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
> You don't have to be wealthy to buy a Métro ticket. Any anyone who can
> spend a day riding the Métro just out of personal interest in the Métro
> obviously is not hurting for money.
> The Métro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
> shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
> through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
> ticket.
Maybe it was a chat-up line.....
Another missed opportunity ?
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> Miguel Cruz writes:
> > What's the correlation between enthusiasm and wealth?
> You don't have to be wealthy to buy a Métro ticket. Any anyone who can
> spend a day riding the Métro just out of personal interest in the Métro
> obviously is not hurting for money.
> The Métro is very heavily subsidized and it is not expensive. I rather
> shocked a pretty young woman yesterday when she asked if she could pass
> through the turnstile with me and I said "no." She can afford to buy a
> ticket.
Maybe it was a chat-up line.....
Another missed opportunity ?
Aug 5th 2004, 1:41 am
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On 2004-08-05, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lennart Petersen writes:
>> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
>> the whole system.
> Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
> that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
> purpose.
A one-day Mobiles card for zones 1-2 is 5,30 euro. If you can't afford
that, you can't afford going to Paris.
Note that the Mobiles is one of the options NOT mentioned of the English
version of the RATP site...
When I'm visiting a large city, I _always_ go for the unlimited ride
ticket. Even if I could save a couple of euro by buying single tickets
and only take the most necessary trip, the unlimited ticket is still
worth it, just to avoid speculation over "is this transfer legal on
one ticket" and "is this trip worth it". I enjoy a trip more, when I
can just jump on a bus or a train whenever I feel like it.
With single tickets you don't do stuff like take a bus across Place
Charles de Gaulle, get off, cross the street and take the next bus
back across the Place. 4 times in a row. Just to study the traffic.
> Lennart Petersen writes:
>> Some people, being train,tram or metro enthusiast are possibly keen to cover
>> the whole system.
> Covering the whole system can easily take a day or more. And anyone
> that enthusiastic can easily afford more than one ticket for the
> purpose.
A one-day Mobiles card for zones 1-2 is 5,30 euro. If you can't afford
that, you can't afford going to Paris.
Note that the Mobiles is one of the options NOT mentioned of the English
version of the RATP site...
When I'm visiting a large city, I _always_ go for the unlimited ride
ticket. Even if I could save a couple of euro by buying single tickets
and only take the most necessary trip, the unlimited ticket is still
worth it, just to avoid speculation over "is this transfer legal on
one ticket" and "is this trip worth it". I enjoy a trip more, when I
can just jump on a bus or a train whenever I feel like it.
With single tickets you don't do stuff like take a bus across Place
Charles de Gaulle, get off, cross the street and take the next bus
back across the Place. 4 times in a row. Just to study the traffic.
