Paris dining
Mar 4th 2003, 5:43 am
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Paris dining
Hi all! Bonjour!
We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
Merci. Thanks!
Victor
Victor M. Martinez
[email protected]
http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv
We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
Merci. Thanks!
Victor
Victor M. Martinez
[email protected]
http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv
Mar 4th 2003, 5:57 am
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Re: Paris dining
le Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:43:48 -0600, dans l'article , Victor M. Martinez a dit ...
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
La Tour d'Argent.
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Desmond Coughlan
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> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
La Tour d'Argent.
--
Desmond Coughlan
desmond @ zeouane.org
http: // www . zeouane . org
Mar 4th 2003, 6:31 am
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Victor M. Martinez wrote:
> Hi all! Bonjour!
>
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
For starters, you can go to http://www.viamichelin.com which will have
up-to-date prices.
Bernard Higonnet
> Hi all! Bonjour!
>
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
For starters, you can go to http://www.viamichelin.com which will have
up-to-date prices.
Bernard Higonnet
Mar 4th 2003, 10:01 am
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"Victor M. Martinez" writes:
> Hi all! Bonjour!
>
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
months in advance.)
OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
Regards,
Allen
> Hi all! Bonjour!
>
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
months in advance.)
OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
Regards,
Allen
Mar 4th 2003, 2:09 pm
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Re: Paris dining
The worst dining experience that I have ever had in Paris at a ** or ***
Michelin restaurant was at Ducasse. On the other hand, Taillevent (4 times)
is the best experience. I would also recommend Michel Rostang very highly.
Mike Hagley
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> Hi all! Bonjour!
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> Merci. Thanks!
> Victor
> Victor M. Martinez
> [email protected]
> http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv
Michelin restaurant was at Ducasse. On the other hand, Taillevent (4 times)
is the best experience. I would also recommend Michel Rostang very highly.
Mike Hagley
"Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message
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> Hi all! Bonjour!
> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> Merci. Thanks!
> Victor
> Victor M. Martinez
> [email protected]
> http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv
Mar 4th 2003, 2:20 pm
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> OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
Also she has a web site and lists some of her favorite restaurants of Paris.
The book lists them by arrondisements and also lists cafes and bistros as
well as restaurants.
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
Also she has a web site and lists some of her favorite restaurants of Paris.
The book lists them by arrondisements and also lists cafes and bistros as
well as restaurants.
Mar 4th 2003, 2:28 pm
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Re: Paris dining
Might be hard to get reservations, but possibly easier for lunch than dinner
and generally less expensive then as well.
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> "Victor M. Martinez" writes:
> > Hi all! Bonjour!
> >
> > We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> > somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> > expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> > choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody
have
> > a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> > guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> > example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
> don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
> months in advance.)
> OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
and generally less expensive then as well.
"Allen Windhorn" wrote in message
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> "Victor M. Martinez" writes:
> > Hi all! Bonjour!
> >
> > We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> > somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> > expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> > choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody
have
> > a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> > guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> > example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
> don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
> months in advance.)
> OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
Mar 4th 2003, 3:40 pm
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Re: Paris dining
allen asks about the restaurants of paris while holding his wallet open so
that the head waiter can see that he qualifies:
"Allen Windhorn" wrote in message
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> "Victor M. Martinez" writes:
> > Hi all! Bonjour!
> >
> > We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> > somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> > expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> > choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody
have
> > a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> > guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> > example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
> don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
> months in advance.)
> OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
haven't eaten at the plaza athene restaurant but just had lunch at guy savoy
(made the reservation the previous morning).
i did not ask but it did not seem as though the dinner menu would be much
different in body or price. it was good but not earth shaking. we did
spend a very enjoyable three hours and a fair amount of euros. there were,
i believe, two different tasting menus with prices of around 300 euros. but
i forget.
we did not want to eat too much. tasting menus are quite attractive but we
tend to skip em after one drunken too full experience at pierre gagnaire.
but that is a whole other story as they say.
anyway most of these restaurants let you get half plates so you can kind of
build your own anyway.
we have eaten at another ducasse restaurant that was great - it is the hotel
/ restaurant in moustiers. i highly recommend this place.
we have had the good fortune to dine at several of these kind of restaurants
and have always left a bit wanting. i don't know. just seems like the
price doesn't produce the big bang.
i can recommend another place in paris - astrance in the 16th. very good.
different tastes. well prepared. good service.
the restaurant in the hotel crillon is very good and not as expensive. we
had a very nice lunch there a few weeks ago.
guy savoy was nice because guy savoy was there and smiling. as i suppose he
should be since the restaurant was full at lunch on a weekday.
i have read that joel robuchon is opening a new restaurant - it sounds
interesting.
lucas carton is good but no big bang there either.
l'esperance in burgundy is good but no great shakes there - although the
hotel / watermill rooms are quite nice.
pierre gagnaire was dissappointing.
there ya go just my opinion
that the head waiter can see that he qualifies:
"Allen Windhorn" wrote in message
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> "Victor M. Martinez" writes:
> > Hi all! Bonjour!
> >
> > We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
> > somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
> > expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
> > choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody
have
> > a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
> > guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
> > example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
> But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
> don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
> months in advance.)
> OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
> in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
> Regards,
> Allen
haven't eaten at the plaza athene restaurant but just had lunch at guy savoy
(made the reservation the previous morning).
i did not ask but it did not seem as though the dinner menu would be much
different in body or price. it was good but not earth shaking. we did
spend a very enjoyable three hours and a fair amount of euros. there were,
i believe, two different tasting menus with prices of around 300 euros. but
i forget.
we did not want to eat too much. tasting menus are quite attractive but we
tend to skip em after one drunken too full experience at pierre gagnaire.
but that is a whole other story as they say.
anyway most of these restaurants let you get half plates so you can kind of
build your own anyway.
we have eaten at another ducasse restaurant that was great - it is the hotel
/ restaurant in moustiers. i highly recommend this place.
we have had the good fortune to dine at several of these kind of restaurants
and have always left a bit wanting. i don't know. just seems like the
price doesn't produce the big bang.
i can recommend another place in paris - astrance in the 16th. very good.
different tastes. well prepared. good service.
the restaurant in the hotel crillon is very good and not as expensive. we
had a very nice lunch there a few weeks ago.
guy savoy was nice because guy savoy was there and smiling. as i suppose he
should be since the restaurant was full at lunch on a weekday.
i have read that joel robuchon is opening a new restaurant - it sounds
interesting.
lucas carton is good but no big bang there either.
l'esperance in burgundy is good but no great shakes there - although the
hotel / watermill rooms are quite nice.
pierre gagnaire was dissappointing.
there ya go just my opinion
Mar 5th 2003, 12:42 am
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Re: Paris dining
Chose your own from reviews in Zagat, Gault Milleau, and Michelin.
For accurate pricing, the new Michelin guide (just out) will be close.
Go here:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...34RHY:ucpku3iu
Click 3 star, plug in paris, select 75000 click result, read'em and
weep.
The site is not up to date, I jus tealized, as Le "Cinq" just got a
3rd star, I think.
Plan on €200 for a menu PP, plus wine, and not getting in. You are
too late. Your best chance will be the 2* Gerard Besson.
Start calling today.
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:01:50 GMT, Allen Windhorn
wrote:
>"Victor M. Martinez" writes:
>> Hi all! Bonjour!
>>
>> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
>> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
>> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
>> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
>> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
>> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
>> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
>But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
>don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
>months in advance.)
>OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
>in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
>Regards,
>Allen
For accurate pricing, the new Michelin guide (just out) will be close.
Go here:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...34RHY:ucpku3iu
Click 3 star, plug in paris, select 75000 click result, read'em and
weep.
The site is not up to date, I jus tealized, as Le "Cinq" just got a
3rd star, I think.
Plan on €200 for a menu PP, plus wine, and not getting in. You are
too late. Your best chance will be the 2* Gerard Besson.
Start calling today.
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:01:50 GMT, Allen Windhorn
wrote:
>"Victor M. Martinez" writes:
>> Hi all! Bonjour!
>>
>> We'll be going to Paris in a couple of weeks and I have a question
>> somebody here might be able to answer. We're planning on having one
>> expensive dinner at a fabulous restaurant while there. Two of my top
>> choices are Alain Ducasse at Plaza Athene and Guy Savoy. Does anybody have
>> a clear favorite? How much are their tasting menus lately? All the
>> guidebooks I've seen have fairly outdated information (using francs, for
>> example). Any advice would be most appreciated.
>But will you be able to get reservations at this short notice? (I
>don't know, I'm just asking, but I've heard the best places are booked
>months in advance.)
>OTOH there are so many good places to eat, you should be able to get
>in somewhere. Patricia Wells' book is very good.
>Regards,
>Allen
