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Old Jul 12th 2004, 4:46 am
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Earl Evleth
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On 12/07/04 17:02, in article [email protected],
"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:42:55 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "Capitalist Pig"
    > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... No Earl, I just don't like your socialist expatriate anti-American self
    > and
    > ... your inane drivel. Its no wonder that your supporters are perennial losers
    > ... and include Patraig Badbreath, Tom Bellhouse, whose fascination human
    > ... excrement knows no bounds, and Magda, a bitter lesbian who offers nothing
    > ... except institutional criticism.
    >
    > ROTFL
    >


For some reason the subject of "Paris, the coldest July since 1941" got
Capitalist Oinker over on his anti-socialist rant!

He does keep us amused. A little.

Earl
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 5:02 am
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Frank F. Matthews writes:

    > I would find anything below -20C too cold and above 40C too hot. It's
    > the 50C temps in Phoenix that have me planning to flee for the summer
    > when I retire there.

So why do you want to retire there? There are more moderate climates in
the world.

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Old Jul 12th 2004, 5:02 am
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:46:56 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Earl Evleth <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... For some reason the subject of "Paris, the coldest July since 1941" got
... Capitalist Oinker over on his anti-socialist rant!
...
... He does keep us amused. A little.

I'm keeping some of his posts to amuse my friends too. He is hilarious when he loses his
temper - and it's soooo easy to make him lose it... I wonder if he has killed all his
neighbours already. LOL
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 5:04 am
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Donna Evleth writes:

    > Unless the temperature is around 28°, I always wear a jacket when I go out.
    > I am 5'7" tall, and weigh 116 pounds. I walk 5 km per day.

You need to gain some weight.

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Old Jul 12th 2004, 5:14 am
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in article [email protected], Miguel Cruz at [email protected]
wrote on 07/12/2004 4:26 PM:

    > but even among the tropical rich it's a rare thing to make a winter
    > visit to Chicago.

Right. But, you'll find a lot of them jetting off to Vail, or Aspen, or Sun
Valley, or Tahoe. A few even make their way over to the Alps.

My own guess regarding the prime determinant of the time of year that
vacations are taken is that familial obligations prevent most people from
going except when their children are on holiday from school. And, I'd guess
that employers have, over the years, come to assume that most employees will
want to take their vacation days during the months of June, July or August.
I know that when I worked for any fairly large organization it was the norm
for the boss to pass around a list sometime during the spring time. On it
each person was asked to list his or her vacation preference, and, in case
of conflicts with other employees, the boss sought to work out a compromise
or settled the matter by going by seniority.

HH
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 8:12 am
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On 2004-07-11, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Miguel Cruz writes:
    >>> I should think a majority of the earth's people would find 28 more
    >>> comfortable than 16. Even if you don't.
    >> I seriously doubt that. The usual ideal external temperature is around
    >> 20° Celsius.
    > Says who?

People who have to do physical work. Ask top athletes what temperature they
prefer.

Any place that has a "siesta" is hotter than ideal.

    > More people live in warm climates than cold,

Any piece of land will have the number of people is can sustain, living on
it. Very few people have chosen their country of residence based on climate.

But if you want to play that game, note there's a lot more people from hot
countries trying to get into cold countries, than the other way around.

    > and more people choose to vacation in warm climates than cold.

They do? The worlds most popular tourist destinations aren't in the tropics.
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 8:38 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Frank F. Matthews writes:
    >
    >
    >>I would find anything below -20C too cold and above 40C too hot. It's
    >>the 50C temps in Phoenix that have me planning to flee for the summer
    >>when I retire there.
    >
    >
    > So why do you want to retire there? There are more moderate climates in
    > the world.

Many retired Americans from the upper Midwest (those who can afford it)
maintain TWO homes - Arizona in the winter and a "summer home" in a
resort area of their home state. (The "best of both worlds", perhaps -
but it involves furnishing, maintaining and paying taxes on two separate
dwellings.)

    >
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 8:38 am
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...especially the weak minded...

Tim K

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > The best thing is to stay clear of people who are
    > psycho-toxic. One risks infection.
    > Earl
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 8:48 am
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For the same reasons you choose to live in 'the city of love' all the
while eschewing interpersonal contact perhaps....

Tim K

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Frank F. Matthews writes:
    > > I would find anything below -20C too cold and above 40C too hot.
It's
    > > the 50C temps in Phoenix that have me planning to flee for the
summer
    > > when I retire there.
    > So why do you want to retire there? There are more moderate climates
in
    > the world.
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Old Jul 12th 2004, 9:03 am
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I'm sorry I missed Pooch Parade... or how Earl smells when he gets
wet...

Tim K

"Donna Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Dans l'article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (David Stroud) a écrit :
    > > Ealier this week "le jounal" /tv2 had a report about the cold temps
on
    > > the Atlantic beaches of France, "Novembre en Julliet." shots of
empty
    > > beaches and shivering vacationers...
    > This morning the thermometer at my kitchen window reads 15 degrees
celsius.
    > I am wearing long pants and a sweat shirt. Poor Gaston got very wet
from
    > the rain when Earl took him out this morning. According to last
night's TV2
    > weather report there is no relief in sight.
    > Donna Evleth
    > >
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 1:21 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Frank F. Matthews writes:

    >>I would find anything below -20C too cold and above 40C too hot. It's
    >>the 50C temps in Phoenix that have me planning to flee for the summer
    >>when I retire there.

    > So why do you want to retire there? There are more moderate climates in
    > the world.

I inherited a nice house with a great back porch that looks across two
fairways and a lake to watch the sun set in the mountains.

It's great when it's not too hot. Lots of local activities as well.
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 1:24 pm
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The house taxes in Arizona are pretty light. Between $700 & $800 for a
nice house.

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> Many retired Americans from the upper Midwest (those who can afford
> it)
> maintain TWO homes - Arizona in the winter and a "summer home" in a
> resort area of their home state. (The "best of both worlds", perhaps
> but it involves furnishing, maintaining and paying taxes on two
> separate dwellings.)

    > Mxsmanic wrote:
>> So why do you want to retire there? There are more moderate climates
>> in the world.

    >> Frank F. Matthews writes:
    >>> I would find anything below -20C too cold and above 40C too hot.
    >>> It's the 50C temps in Phoenix that have me planning to flee for the
    >>> summer when I retire there.
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 1:27 pm
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

    > Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>Miguel Cruz wrote:

    >>>Sure, but if they liked them, they wouldn't vacation to warm climates
    >>>so often.

    >>You should understand that folks will vacation to relieve their usual
    >>existence. Folks in cold climates take winter vacations where it is warm.
    >>Folks in warm climates take summer vacations where it is cool.

    > Sure, sometimes, but you see a lot more of the former than the latter. The
    > argument could be made that people in warm climates are less likely to have
    > enough money to travel far enough to experience significantly different
    > weather, but even among the tropical rich it's a rare thing to make a winter
    > visit to Chicago. miguel

True. New england or the West or Canada are more likely. So far this
summer I've been to Nova Scotia and I'm getting ready to go to the
western parks.
 
Old Jul 12th 2004, 3:00 pm
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Tim Kroesen writes:

    > For the same reasons you choose to live in 'the city of love' all the
    > while eschewing interpersonal contact perhaps....

I see no correlation. Paris has a very moderate climate. A similar
climate in the U.S. would probably be that of San Francisco or Seattle.

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Old Jul 12th 2004, 4:49 pm
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Jesper Lauridsen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Says who?
    > People who have to do physical work. Ask top athletes what temperature they
    > prefer.

Ok, find me some.

    > Any place that has a "siesta" is hotter than ideal.

A siesta makes it ideal. You're saying any place with coping mechanisms for
the temperature is not ideal? Any place with coats, building insulation,
heaters, etc.?

    >> More people live in warm climates than cold,
    > Any piece of land will have the number of people is can sustain, living on
    > it. Very few people have chosen their country of residence based on climate.
    > But if you want to play that game, note there's a lot more people from hot
    > countries trying to get into cold countries, than the other way around.

Not for the weather. But in any case, that's not the game I was trying to
play. I just meant that more people on the planet are acclimatized to warm
weather than to cold. It would be silly to claim or believe that most people
live where they do by choice, especially choice dictated by temperature.

    >> and more people choose to vacation in warm climates than cold.
    > They do? The worlds most popular tourist destinations aren't in the
    > tropics.

Come on now. Add up all the numbers of all the places people go on vacation
and how many people go there. The fact that there are a few very popular
concentrations of tourist activity in predominantly cold places (Paris,
etc.) doesn't take away from the vast numbers of beach destinations and
other warm vacation spots that may each receive fewer visitors than Paris
but in aggregate exceed it.

miguel
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