cts

Good question. The last time I was there, which was in 2003, he was
still giving the tours. I do not know if he has been training anyone to
take over for him when he retires. I know he isn't that young. I also
know that in the past, he spent the "offseason" giving lectures around
the world.

I'd try to contact the visitor's center in Chartres or the cathedral
itself via an e-mail and see what the current scoop is. (Also, when
you Google "Malcolm Miller" make sure you distinguish the hits between
the Chartres expert and the English music guy.)

Have a great trip.

Joann

Jeremyrh Geo

Martin wrote:

    > Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.

I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?

Mr B;

Jeremyrh Geo

Martin wrote:
    > On Wed, 03 May 2006 06:34:12 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >Suzanne writes:
    > >
    > >> How far away is Chartres from Paris? I would love to see the cathedral.
    > >>
    > >> We are spending 4 days in Paris, and would appreciated your thoughts
    > >> and ideas on getting to chartes?
    > >
    > >It's about one hour by train. However, I don't think it's worth the
    > >time if you will only be in Paris for four days, as you will end up
    > >spending at least half a day on the Chartres excursion. Unless you
    > >have a special interest in Chartres, it might be better to skip it.
    > A typical example of a waste of prime time in McDs

Not to mention all that quality time you could have gnawing on a stale
baguette in front of your PC writing a Windows programme!

Mr B;

Martin

On 3 May 2006 10:26:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.
    >I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
    >with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
    >I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?

If you discard the first 130 pages of waffle the other 570 are
readable. If you buy it discounted in Tescos each page works out
cheaper than a sheet of toilet paper.
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Chris

He was offering them summer 2005, once a day. We didn't go on his
tour. I was disappointed that you couldn't walk the labyrinth, at least
not on our visit. Do they ever have it cleared?

chris

Patrick Wallace

Can't be bothered to read that sort of book, but I'm sure she said it
was based in and around Carcassonne?

On 3 May 2006 10:26:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.
    >I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
    >with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
    >I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?
    >Mr B;

Martin

On Fri, 05 May 2006 16:37:30 GMT, [email protected]
(Patrick Wallace) wrote:


    >On 3 May 2006 10:26:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    >>Martin wrote:
    >>> Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.
    >>I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
    >>with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
    >>I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?
    >Can't be bothered to read that sort of book, but I'm sure she said it
    >was based in and around Carcassonne?
As somebody who hasn't bothered to read it, are you claiming Chartres
wasn't mentioned in it?
As somebody who has bothered to read all 700 pages of it, I can tell
you Chartres Cathedral & it's labyrinth were featured in it
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Martin

Poldy

In article <[email protected]. com>,
[email protected] wrote:

    > I really enjoy visiting Chartres but agree that you want to do it on a
    > bright day. The stained glass is well known for its high quality blue,
    > which means that the interior luminance level is very poor unless the
    > glass is "backlit" with a bright sky.

Anyone try photographing the vitrage there?

Would they allow you to use a tripod?

Mxsmanic

poldy writes:

    > Anyone try photographing the vitrage there?
    >
    > Would they allow you to use a tripod?

Stained glass can usually be photographed hand-held, since the light
level is comparable to that of the world outside (in the daytime, on
sunny days).

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Mister Bartlett

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 May 2006 16:37:30 GMT, [email protected]
    > (Patrick Wallace) wrote:
    >
    >
    > >On 3 May 2006 10:26:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >>Martin wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.
    > >>
    > >>I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
    > >>with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
    > >>I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?
    > >Can't be bothered to read that sort of book, but I'm sure she said it
    > >was based in and around Carcassonne?
    > >
    > As somebody who hasn't bothered to read it, are you claiming Chartres
    > wasn't mentioned in it?

I can't be bothered to read top postings, so I don't know what he
claimed.

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On Sun, 7 May 2006 09:57:23 +0200, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett)
wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Fri, 05 May 2006 16:37:30 GMT, [email protected]
    >> (Patrick Wallace) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> >On 3 May 2006 10:26:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >>Martin wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Kate Mosse's Labyrinth will lead to even more visiting Chartres.
    >> >>
    >> >>I thought you meant Kate Moss and wondered what her labyrinth had to do
    >> >>with Chartres, but now I guess you mean the bint from the Culture Show.
    >> >>I saw the book in a shop here - is it any good?
    >> >Can't be bothered to read that sort of book, but I'm sure she said it
    >> >was based in and around Carcassonne?
    >> >
    >> As somebody who hasn't bothered to read it, are you claiming Chartres
    >> wasn't mentioned in it?
    >I can't be bothered to read top postings, so I don't know what he
    >claimed.

I rearranged his post to conform to rte standards.
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cts

I recall a few years back (about 7) that they had it cleared and
cordoned off with a velvet rope, so that if you wanted to go in and
walk it, you could. (For a complete experience, I gather you are
supposed to do it on your knees...which I imagine is effective penance
for just about anything ;-) ) The last time I was there three years
ago, it was not cordoned off and I recall someone saying that it was
roped off only at certain times. I gather that the crown management in
the summer led them to do that. Also, I think some people wanted to
walk the labyrinth for its religious significance while a lot of people
(particularly kids) just wanted to screw around. Again, I'd inquire
directly and see if they have special hours for the labyrinth.

There is also a manicured lawn labyrinth in the yard behind the
cathedral. (at least there was three years ago...) When I was there
you could walk through that. It is not an exact replica of the one
inside.

Joann

cts

I had decent luck photographing the windows at Chartres with an older
SLR camera and silver-halide film. It was a bright day. Plus, I was
able to set it on a ledge/chair to get steady longer term exposures in
addition to some hand-held ones. I am pretty sure the film I shot was
200 speed.

Still, if it isn't a sunny day or even particularly bright - you might
want a tripod to do a longer exposure. Even if it is a sunny day, the
sun ducking in behind clouds can really lower your luminance level
significantly. You can always play games with the film speed and
exposure. I have not tried doing a lot of digital photos there... The
last ones I shot were pretty decent but the digital camera was new and
I hadn't played with all of the bells and wistles and I have had time
since to learn a lot more about how to get the most out of the camera.


You have to remember that you will dark-adapt and as long as you have a
few candelas of luminance, your cones will perceive color even in the
low light. Your imaging medium may need additional consideration if
the light levels are particularly low. The plus with digital cameras
is you can look at your shots and make adjustments on the spot.

For someone interested in doing digital photos of stained glass there
are lots of websites that provide tips. Here is one:
http://www.digicamhelp.com/stained-g...aphy/index.htm
Google can help you find a bunch more.

Joann

Poldy

In article <[email protected] .com>,
[email protected] wrote:

    > Still, if it isn't a sunny day or even particularly bright - you might
    > want a tripod to do a longer exposure. Even if it is a sunny day, the
    > sun ducking in behind clouds can really lower your luminance level
    > significantly. You can always play games with the film speed and
    > exposure. I have not tried doing a lot of digital photos there... The
    > last ones I shot were pretty decent but the digital camera was new and
    > I hadn't played with all of the bells and wistles and I have had time
    > since to learn a lot more about how to get the most out of the camera.
    >
    >
    > You have to remember that you will dark-adapt and as long as you have a
    > few candelas of luminance, your cones will perceive color even in the
    > low light. Your imaging medium may need additional consideration if
    > the light levels are particularly low. The plus with digital cameras
    > is you can look at your shots and make adjustments on the spot.
    >
    > For someone interested in doing digital photos of stained glass there
    > are lots of websites that provide tips. Here is one:
    > http://www.digicamhelp.com/stained-g...aphy/index.htm
    > Google can help you find a bunch more.

My digicam has night modes which involve some long exposures. Plus, the
maunal recommends using the lowest light sensitivity setting, ISO 80,
even though it could go up to at least ISO 400. But then the pictures
get noisy especially in the dark areas with a lot of snow.

My question wasn't about whether you can take such pics with or without
a tripod.

It was more whether they would object to you trying to do so. I have a
portable tripod with a relatively small footprint. Certainly a lot
smaller footprint than those used to support film SLRs.

Still at crowded venues, they might discourage people from setting up
tripods as that would tend to slow down the traffic.

I wonder about tripod use at other French sites, like the Eiffel tower
observation decks, inside churches, etc.

I know some museums will allow cameras but no flash or tripods. Maybe
for crowd traffic flow reasons as far as tripods go. One suggested that
use of tripods suggested you might be a pro photographer and as such
would have to get permits or face fines.

Mister Bartlett

poldy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > My digicam has night modes which involve some long exposures. Plus, the
    > maunal recommends using the lowest light sensitivity setting, ISO 80,
    > even though it could go up to at least ISO 400. But then the pictures
    > get noisy especially in the dark areas with a lot of snow.

The ISO setting won't affect the amount of noise, because it's seen just
as a function of the signal - and the signal is the amount of light. A,
say, ten second exposure at ISO 200 will have the same amount of noise
as a 5 second exposure at ISO 400.

Mr B;


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