E-Head

O.K.,
this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience with
these Russian match making services ?

I figure you could probably just visit Russia for a few weeks and save your
money.

Seriously though, have any westerners found love in the former USSR ?
Perhaps with a girl named Nikita ? or Sveta ?

Of course, I dont really expect anyone with any experience in these matters
to have
the nerve to respond to this post, but I just thought it would be fun to
ask.

I went to one of these "Russian Wives" sites (can you tell I'm bored at work
today ?),
and these ladies are simply stunning.
They seem so beautiful and intelligent and talented.

All we have over here (US) are these bimbo's I wouldn't go on a date with if
you paid me.
Seriously, the entire generation of women (and indeed many of the men too)
aged between 20-28 in the U.S. are extremely spoiled rotten, have major
attitude problems,
and think the world should revolve around them. This is the result of the
utterly shameless
spoiling of this generation by their fathers. My sister got a brand new
(factory ordered) Mustang
convertible on her 16th birthday. My father split the cost of a used Toyota
Corolla with me which
I could finally afford to buy when I was 17.

I am of the "Breakfast Club" generation (gen-X i suppose), and we were full
of apathy and
sarcasim and a slight shittiness towards life. So of course I find these
feelings to be completely natural.
This materialism/vanity (which I have termed "bimbo-ness") of the younger
generation throws me for
a loop.

Anyway, so there you have it, the real reason I want to go to Eastern Europe
....
where it seems years of communism have forged a certain degree of sarcasim
and shittiness in everyone.

and of course I love the snazzy architecture too.
%^)

Evelynvogtgamble

e-head wrote:
    >
    > O.K.,
    > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience with
    > these Russian match making services ?
    >
    > I figure you could probably just visit Russia for a few weeks and save your
    > money.

At least then you'd have a better idea of the actual person you were
matching yourself with! What guarantee do you have that any of the info
on the "matchmaking" site is genuine? (That seems like an awfully big
commitment to make without even meeting face-to-face!)

    > All we have over here (US) are these bimbo's I wouldn't go on a date with if
    > you paid me.

Perhaps the feeling is mutual?

    > Seriously, the entire generation of women (and indeed many of the men too)
    > aged between 20-28 in the U.S. are extremely spoiled rotten, have major
    > attitude problems,
    > and think the world should revolve around them.

That may be true of most, but if you are an exception, why do you think
there are no American women of your generation who feel as you do?
(FWIW, I'm a good deal older than you are, and so far as men of my own
generation were concerned, most of them fit your description, too.) You
just have to look harder for the ones who aren't, but I'm pretty sure
you won't find them in singles bars or on internet match-making
services. Try getting involved in organizations that reflect your
interests - that's the best way to encounter potential friends of both
sexes. (Also, don't be so eager for romance that you turn women off
before you get to know each other - I know several young men who do
that, but who listens to an old lady when she tries to advise them?)

Will Trash-Spam

"e-head" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > O.K.,
    > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience
with
    > these Russian match making services ?

Of course I maybe answering a troll but....

I actually found my wife, from Eastern Europe, from a pen-pal service.
Perhaps a bit more "higher class" than the "meat markets" that are the
"introduction" services which are frequented 95% by women trying to get the
hell out of a shitty place.

I also know a couple of other people who really did find "love" and didn't
use the "meat market" websites as an excuse for a sex tour and "freeish"
holiday (i.e. pay the airfare and stay at 5-6 accomodating
families/potential wives houses).

However its like any other market. You can get taken for a ride, or taken
for a "ride" or find a genuine partner. Its down to how gullable or
intelligent your are.

Nick

goto Prague, Czech women are much less materialistic than Russians,
who are all professional gold diggers

"e-head" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > O.K.,
    > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience with
    > these Russian match making services ?
    > I figure you could probably just visit Russia for a few weeks and save your
    > money.
    > Seriously though, have any westerners found love in the former USSR ?
    > Perhaps with a girl named Nikita ? or Sveta ?
    > Of course, I dont really expect anyone with any experience in these matters
    > to have
    > the nerve to respond to this post, but I just thought it would be fun to
    > ask.
    > I went to one of these "Russian Wives" sites (can you tell I'm bored at work
    > today ?),
    > and these ladies are simply stunning.
    > They seem so beautiful and intelligent and talented.
    > All we have over here (US) are these bimbo's I wouldn't go on a date with if
    > you paid me.
    > Seriously, the entire generation of women (and indeed many of the men too)
    > aged between 20-28 in the U.S. are extremely spoiled rotten, have major
    > attitude problems,
    > and think the world should revolve around them. This is the result of the
    > utterly shameless
    > spoiling of this generation by their fathers. My sister got a brand new
    > (factory ordered) Mustang
    > convertible on her 16th birthday. My father split the cost of a used Toyota
    > Corolla with me which
    > I could finally afford to buy when I was 17.
    > I am of the "Breakfast Club" generation (gen-X i suppose), and we were full
    > of apathy and
    > sarcasim and a slight shittiness towards life. So of course I find these
    > feelings to be completely natural.
    > This materialism/vanity (which I have termed "bimbo-ness") of the younger
    > generation throws me for
    > a loop.
    > Anyway, so there you have it, the real reason I want to go to Eastern Europe
    > ....
    > where it seems years of communism have forged a certain degree of sarcasim
    > and shittiness in everyone.
    > and of course I love the snazzy architecture too.
    > %^)

Erilar

In article <[email protected]>, "e-head"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > O.K.,
    > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience
    > with
    > these Russian match making services ?
    >
    > I figure you could probably just visit Russia for a few weeks and save
    > your
    > money.
    >
    > Seriously though, have any westerners found love in the former USSR ?
    > Perhaps with a girl named Nikita ? or Sveta ?
    >

I don't know exactly how he met her except that the internet was
involved, but my brother is married to a Russian woman. Right now he's
over there sorting out red tape so she can come back with him this time.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)


Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

Mason Barge

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:37:36 GMT, "e-head" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >O.K.,
    >this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience with
    >these Russian match making services ?

One of my best friends married a Russian woman he met on a meat-market
tour. They are actually very happily married. He is not at all
attractive looking, but is a cultured and fairly well-to-do gent in
his 50's. The woman is perhaps 40, attractive, and really quite nice.
She has a 14 year old son who my friend has supported both
economically and emotionally. She spoke like zero English, too. I
was amazed that they made it, especially with the potential troubles
of a displaced boy that age from a broken home.

On the other hand, her best fried -- a rather spectacular statuesque
blond -- married this total schmiel looking dentist in Florida, and
divorced him as soon as she got solid with being able to stay in the
US.

You have to be ready to give a lot. Some of these women are genuinely
wonderful human beings, but they need a lot of
time/support/understanding. When they get here, they can't work and
they can't drive.
Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln

Gregory Morrow

e-head wrote:

    > O.K.,
    > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience
with
    > these Russian match making services ?
    > I figure you could probably just visit Russia for a few weeks and save
your
    > money.
    > Seriously though, have any westerners found love in the former USSR ?
    > Perhaps with a girl named Nikita ? or Sveta ?
    > Of course, I dont really expect anyone with any experience in these
matters
    > to have
    > the nerve to respond to this post, but I just thought it would be fun to
    > ask.
    > I went to one of these "Russian Wives" sites (can you tell I'm bored at
work
    > today ?),
    > and these ladies are simply stunning.
    > They seem so beautiful and intelligent and talented.


ALL Russian women are termagent fishwives...avoid 'em like contaminated
drinking water...plus when they get to a "certain" age they all dye their
hair that ghastly red henna color and wear only c. 1974 Soviet - era shoes
(and *where* they dig up these "mules" I'll never know).....

--
Best
Greg

Devil

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:28:08 +0000, Gregory Morrow wrote:

    >
    > ALL Russian women are termagent fishwives...avoid 'em like contaminated
    > drinking water...plus when they get to a "certain" age they all dye their
    > hair that ghastly red henna color and wear only c. 1974 Soviet - era shoes
    > (and *where* they dig up these "mules" I'll never know).....

Didn't you forget these Soviet-era bras, or didn't yours wear these?

Also, they get their hair done by a pastry chef.

Gregory Morrow

devil wrote:

    > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:28:08 +0000, Gregory Morrow wrote:
    > >
    > > ALL Russian women are termagent fishwives...avoid 'em like contaminated
    > > drinking water...plus when they get to a "certain" age they all dye
their
    > > hair that ghastly red henna color and wear only c. 1974 Soviet - era
shoes
    > > (and *where* they dig up these "mules" I'll never know).....
    > Didn't you forget these Soviet-era bras, or didn't yours wear these?


Lol.....


    > Also, they get their hair done by a pastry chef.


<boggle>

--
Best
Greg

Icono Clast

"Will Trash-Spam" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I actually found my wife, from Eastern Europe

The recent Russian immigrant with limited English I know is here on
her own. I don't know her exact status.

She's VERY attractive physically and has a very pleasant personality.
She's cute, sexy, and just a tiny bit vulgar. Very appealing to me.
She's also of an age that Russian, and I suppose peasants in general,
women blow up into babushkas. She has not.

She's currently the girlfriend of a man I know who succeeds in
attracting very attractive women who have told me he's a great lover.
But he can't keep them for reasons I've not been told (my observation
is that, in general, he's an asshole). When I commented to this woman
that she's been with him longer than any other I've ever known, she
said "It is because I am very patient with him".

I've made it clear to her that when m'girlfriend tires of me, and she
of him, well, you know.
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E-Head

    > That may be true of most, but if you are an exception, why do you think
    > there are no American women of your generation who feel as you do?
    > (FWIW, I'm a good deal older than you are, and so far as men of my own
    > generation were concerned, most of them fit your description, too.) You
    > just have to look harder for the ones who aren't, but I'm pretty sure
    > you won't find them in singles bars or on internet match-making
    > services. Try getting involved in organizations that reflect your
    > interests - that's the best way to encounter potential friends of both
    > sexes. (Also, don't be so eager for romance that you turn women off
    > before you get to know each other - I know several young men who do
    > that, but who listens to an old lady when she tries to advise them?)

I'm sure your full of good advice.
%^)

Isn't it funny how people of different generations often have very similiar
personality types ?

My dad is of the "workaholic, control-freak" generation. Back when men were
MEN i suppose.

Actually, I'm one generation removed from the "superficial bimbos" i
described.
Only, all the women my own age are either married or divorced with 2 kids,
neither of which
looks like too appealing to me.
%^)

E-Head

    > > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience
    > with
    > > these Russian match making services ?
    > >
    > Of course I maybe answering a troll but....
    > I actually found my wife, from Eastern Europe, from a pen-pal service.

Hey, that's really wild.
I wasnt trolling at all really.
With the kind of luck i've had with women, i've often thought i would be
just
as well off having someone else randomly pick a partner for me. Prolly just
as good a chance of falling in love.

My uncle was single till he was like 45 or so, then went to thailand on
"holiday"
and the next thing we knew he was getting married to a thai girl.

The one thing i always thought would be difficult though, is explaining how
you met
your wife to people. Many people are kind of petty and shitty and i imagine
they
shake there head when you tell em how you met.

Dont know if you watch the Sopranos, but hey, that russian girlfriend of
Tony Soprano is something else, ehh !

    > Perhaps a bit more "higher class" than the "meat markets" that are the
    > "introduction" services which are frequented 95% by women trying to get
the
    > hell out of a shitty place.
    > I also know a couple of other people who really did find "love" and didn't
    > use the "meat market" websites as an excuse for a sex tour and "freeish"
    > holiday (i.e. pay the airfare and stay at 5-6 accomodating
    > families/potential wives houses).

shoot ... i never thought of getting a free room for the night this way ...

you could get a free room, have a nice authentic home cooked meal, have a
date for
the theator .... and if you really liked the girl, get married in St.
Petersburg !
what a holiday that would be ....

and just think, you could set it up so you stayed w/ a different family each
night !
then the last few nights you could stay w/ your favorite ....
if you didn't like any of them ... just get the heck out of dodge ....
not a bad idea really, and i wouldn't feel bad so long as i was genuine and
open minded ...
which i am .... i'm always open for love !
%^)

(though it's only happened to me once in 33 years so far ...)

E-Head

    > She's VERY attractive physically and has a very pleasant personality.
    > She's cute, sexy, and just a tiny bit vulgar. Very appealing to me.
    > She's also of an age that Russian, and I suppose peasants in general,
    > women blow up into babushkas. She has not.

yeah, you know ... that 24% fatties we kept hearing about in that other
thread ...
they gotta come from somewhere ...

at this point, i will admit to visiting a couple of Russian sites of
prurient interest ...
and all i will say is SHAAAAZAM !
there are definitely some cutties over there ....

i'm not much impressed w/ these So Cal girls with there plastic bobbies and
rich tans ...
i kind of like "quirky" girls, for lack of a better word ...
e.g., i thought Amelie (from the movie) was just a darling ...
and these Russian ladies are very pretty if you ask me ...
could be something about the lure of the "exotic" too i suppose ...

    > She's currently the girlfriend of a man I know who succeeds in
    > attracting very attractive women who have told me he's a great lover.
    > But he can't keep them for reasons I've not been told (my observation
    > is that, in general, he's an asshole). When I commented to this woman
    > that she's been with him longer than any other I've ever known, she
    > said "It is because I am very patient with him".

it's unbelievable what some women will put up with ...

    > I've made it clear to her that when m'girlfriend tires of me, and she
    > of him, well, you know.

that a boy !

E-Head

    > ALL Russian women are termagent fishwives...avoid 'em like contaminated
    > drinking water...plus when they get to a "certain" age they all dye their
    > hair that ghastly red henna color and wear only c. 1974 Soviet - era shoes
    > (and *where* they dig up these "mules" I'll never know).....

I dont know ...
i might could get into them shoes ... (i've always had a shoe fettish %^)

maybe i could talk her into wearing a full blown soviet era KGB uniform,
and carry one of them little black wands ...
that would rock !

- i could say something about pig-tails and russian peasant outfits ...
but lets keep this PG %^)

Bjorn Olsson

"Will Trash-Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "e-head" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > O.K.,
    > > this is kind of off topic, but have any westerners had good experience
    > with
    > > these Russian match making services ?
    > >
    >
    > Of course I maybe answering a troll but....
    >
    > I actually found my wife, from Eastern Europe, from a pen-pal service.

Me too.

    > Perhaps a bit more "higher class" than the "meat markets" that are the
    > "introduction" services which are frequented 95% by women trying to get the
    > hell out of a shitty place.
    >
    > I also know a couple of other people who really did find "love" and didn't
    > use the "meat market" websites as an excuse for a sex tour and "freeish"
    > holiday (i.e. pay the airfare and stay at 5-6 accomodating
    > families/potential wives houses).
    >
    > However its like any other market. You can get taken for a ride, or taken
    > for a "ride" or find a genuine partner. Its down to how gullable or
    > intelligent your are.

I think it's down to understanding that the pen-pal stuff is just they
method of initially meeting someone, just like a singles bar or any
other method people use to meet potential partners. You then, after
having initially met and experienced mutual attraction, have to go
through exactly the same process as after having met through any other
method, that is, you need to start dating, spending time together,
getting to know each other, having arguments and becoming friends
again, and so on, and so on. If there is not mutual love, you will of
course notice, and then you split up, as you would in any
relationship. In my (our) case this meant almost 3 years of me
travelling numerous times to Russia and her travelling to Sweden
before actually starting to live permanently together.

Bjorn