Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???
Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:33:26 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
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>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Thom wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to the lowest unemployment rate in the entire world.
>>>>>>>>>>> 18% is doing fine? Lets not be taken in by the Bush liars who use
>>>>>>>>>>> only the number of people getting insurance. The real job hunters
>>>>>>>>>>> are about 18% and 18% of 290 million is larger than many countries.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's ever possible to provide an accurate number.
>>>>>>>>> It is however quite feasible to standardise the definition so you
>>>>>>>>> can compare the rate from country to country and when that is
>>>>>>>>> done the US still ends up with one of the lowest rates in the world.
>>>>>>>> 18% is not low.
>>>>>>> 18% is a lie. Try 5%
>>>>>> I don't lie
>>>>> You lie.
>>>> do you work for the PM's Ministry for propaghanda?
>>>Nope, neither do the ILO or OECD.
>> ask me if I care since we were talking about the US unemployment rate
>Its the US unemployment rate they are stating,
>you silly little pig ignorant lying ****wit.
typical Australian liberal party member, all arrogance, a foul mouth
and no policies worth even using for loo paper. Lets see what the
latest is?
The Children overboard thing was just a big Howard lie? WOMD on every
street corner in Iraq? I'm sure if I held up a sign with the word
truth on it, Howard and Costello would throw they caps over their
heads and run like I showed a cross to a vampire!
>None of the rest of your peurile silly shit any 2 year old could
>leave for dead worth bothering with, all flushed where it belongs.
Still waiting for those WMD.
THOM
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>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> Thom <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Thom wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to the lowest unemployment rate in the entire world.
>>>>>>>>>>> 18% is doing fine? Lets not be taken in by the Bush liars who use
>>>>>>>>>>> only the number of people getting insurance. The real job hunters
>>>>>>>>>>> are about 18% and 18% of 290 million is larger than many countries.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's ever possible to provide an accurate number.
>>>>>>>>> It is however quite feasible to standardise the definition so you
>>>>>>>>> can compare the rate from country to country and when that is
>>>>>>>>> done the US still ends up with one of the lowest rates in the world.
>>>>>>>> 18% is not low.
>>>>>>> 18% is a lie. Try 5%
>>>>>> I don't lie
>>>>> You lie.
>>>> do you work for the PM's Ministry for propaghanda?
>>>Nope, neither do the ILO or OECD.
>> ask me if I care since we were talking about the US unemployment rate
>Its the US unemployment rate they are stating,
>you silly little pig ignorant lying ****wit.
typical Australian liberal party member, all arrogance, a foul mouth
and no policies worth even using for loo paper. Lets see what the
latest is?
The Children overboard thing was just a big Howard lie? WOMD on every
street corner in Iraq? I'm sure if I held up a sign with the word
truth on it, Howard and Costello would throw they caps over their
heads and run like I showed a cross to a vampire!
>None of the rest of your peurile silly shit any 2 year old could
>leave for dead worth bothering with, all flushed where it belongs.
Still waiting for those WMD.
THOM
Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:34:46 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
your refering to all of Howards failed policies of course. By the way
have you liberals figured out how to get those multi-millions back
that Costello lost in that currency speculation scam? Found the WMD
yet? The Baghdad Target or K-Mart might have them or the dog ate
them?
THOM
>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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wrote:
>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
your refering to all of Howards failed policies of course. By the way
have you liberals figured out how to get those multi-millions back
that Costello lost in that currency speculation scam? Found the WMD
yet? The Baghdad Target or K-Mart might have them or the dog ate
them?
THOM
>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:43:44 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
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>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:02 -0800, Icono Clast <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>Thom wrote:
>>>> Maybe its because up till recently a nice house was only twice the
>>>> yearly average wage.
>>>Thrice. Now, around the country, it's running five and more. Here, it's
>>>closer to seven.
>>>Today it was reported that 4/3000 of counties in the USA have
>>>one-bedroom rents that can be afforded by a minimum wage worker. All
>>>sorts programs to help those people live in the 2,996 counties they
>>>can't afford were suggested. All sorts of programs but the only thing
>>>that could possibly approach a solution:
>>>Increase the Minimum Wage! Increase it to what? Ten percent of what's
>>>paid to members of Congress. When I first looked into it, they were
>>>getting eleven times the Minimum Wage. Now they're getting significantly
>>>more. Those with the most power in our society are increasing their
>>>income while ignoring those with the least power in our society. It's
>>>not only unAmerican, it also violates the professed values of every
>>>major philosophy on Earth.
>> you bring up good points.
>Nope, not one.
what would an Australian Liberal know about good?
>> Sould congress persons wages be based on a multiple
>> of the average or mean average wage of Americans?
>Not a chance of getting the pollys to vote for that, fool.
Now there I'll agree with you.
THOM
>> Should it be capped at some point?
>Ditto in spades.
>> I ran for State Parliament in Victoria this last election
>And lost. Wota surprise.
>> and had not the Labor guy dinged me with 58% I
>> would be making exactly 3X's the average wage here.
>Pity the average is a useless number.
>> The average wage here is quite high and cost of living
>> (though raising under the right wingers in the national parliament)
>Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
>that it increases regardless of who the govt is.
>> is lower than the States.
>You're lying, as usual.
>> A simple example is a mutli-format DVD player
>> today at US$30.25 at my local super market
>Even someone as stupid as you should be able to check the
>prices on a US pricewatch site and see that thats nothing special.
>> or the 80 gig hard drive I got over the weekend at US$43.45.
>Ditto in spades.
>> Petrol (unleaded) was US$2.05 a US gallon as I passed the station
>> but honestly I don't know if that's more or less than the States.
>So stupid that it hasnt even noticed that we
>have MUCH higher fuel taxes than the US does.
>> Theres no reason the USA couldn't pay these kinds
>> of average wages and have these kinds of prices.
>Wota terminal ****wit.
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>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:02 -0800, Icono Clast <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>Thom wrote:
>>>> Maybe its because up till recently a nice house was only twice the
>>>> yearly average wage.
>>>Thrice. Now, around the country, it's running five and more. Here, it's
>>>closer to seven.
>>>Today it was reported that 4/3000 of counties in the USA have
>>>one-bedroom rents that can be afforded by a minimum wage worker. All
>>>sorts programs to help those people live in the 2,996 counties they
>>>can't afford were suggested. All sorts of programs but the only thing
>>>that could possibly approach a solution:
>>>Increase the Minimum Wage! Increase it to what? Ten percent of what's
>>>paid to members of Congress. When I first looked into it, they were
>>>getting eleven times the Minimum Wage. Now they're getting significantly
>>>more. Those with the most power in our society are increasing their
>>>income while ignoring those with the least power in our society. It's
>>>not only unAmerican, it also violates the professed values of every
>>>major philosophy on Earth.
>> you bring up good points.
>Nope, not one.
what would an Australian Liberal know about good?
>> Sould congress persons wages be based on a multiple
>> of the average or mean average wage of Americans?
>Not a chance of getting the pollys to vote for that, fool.
Now there I'll agree with you.
THOM
>> Should it be capped at some point?
>Ditto in spades.
>> I ran for State Parliament in Victoria this last election
>And lost. Wota surprise.
>> and had not the Labor guy dinged me with 58% I
>> would be making exactly 3X's the average wage here.
>Pity the average is a useless number.
>> The average wage here is quite high and cost of living
>> (though raising under the right wingers in the national parliament)
>Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
>that it increases regardless of who the govt is.
>> is lower than the States.
>You're lying, as usual.
>> A simple example is a mutli-format DVD player
>> today at US$30.25 at my local super market
>Even someone as stupid as you should be able to check the
>prices on a US pricewatch site and see that thats nothing special.
>> or the 80 gig hard drive I got over the weekend at US$43.45.
>Ditto in spades.
>> Petrol (unleaded) was US$2.05 a US gallon as I passed the station
>> but honestly I don't know if that's more or less than the States.
>So stupid that it hasnt even noticed that we
>have MUCH higher fuel taxes than the US does.
>> Theres no reason the USA couldn't pay these kinds
>> of average wages and have these kinds of prices.
>Wota terminal ****wit.
Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
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>> Thom wrote:
>>> Icono Clast wrote:
>>>> Increase the Minimum Wage! Increase it to what? Ten percent of what's paid
>>>> to members of Congress.
>>> you bring up good points.
>> Thank you. They're the same points I've been making, fruitlessly, for longer
>> than thirty years.
>>> Sould congress persons wages be based on a multiple of the average or
>>> mean average wage of Americans? Should it be capped at some point?
>> Neither. The Congressional and the Minimum wages should be inextricably
>> locked together at a ratio of 10:1. Thus neither will ever be too low,
>> too high, nor, and these are the points, unfair nor probably unlivable.
>Just another mindlessly simplistic silly lefty proposal.
Decency and fairness is always leftist, its opposed to what the right
does which is usually unfair and indecent.
THOM
>And that is the real reason the loopy left gets so few votes.
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>Icono Clast <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Thom wrote:
>>> Icono Clast wrote:
>>>> Increase the Minimum Wage! Increase it to what? Ten percent of what's paid
>>>> to members of Congress.
>>> you bring up good points.
>> Thank you. They're the same points I've been making, fruitlessly, for longer
>> than thirty years.
>>> Sould congress persons wages be based on a multiple of the average or
>>> mean average wage of Americans? Should it be capped at some point?
>> Neither. The Congressional and the Minimum wages should be inextricably
>> locked together at a ratio of 10:1. Thus neither will ever be too low,
>> too high, nor, and these are the points, unfair nor probably unlivable.
>Just another mindlessly simplistic silly lefty proposal.
Decency and fairness is always leftist, its opposed to what the right
does which is usually unfair and indecent.
THOM
>And that is the real reason the loopy left gets so few votes.
Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:57:01 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
do you just look into your skull or something?
THOM
who unlike the entire white house and John Howards front bench is a
Viet Nam vet.
>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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wrote:
>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
do you just look into your skull or something?
THOM
who unlike the entire white house and John Howards front bench is a
Viet Nam vet.
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:31 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:57:33 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
In the treasury? Did Costello suddenly disappear?
THOM
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>Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong.
>Whoops, nothing left.
In the treasury? Did Costello suddenly disappear?
THOM
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:51 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:51 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:52 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
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Dec 23rd 2004, 9:54 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Reams of your pathetic attempts at insults any 2 year
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Dec 23rd 2004, 11:00 pm
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:16:56 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
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>> The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Thom wrote:
>>>> I see your too lazy to go to the website. Why would anyone
>>>> use a buggy MS product when they can get LINUX for free?
>>> Because they can't get suitable drivers for quite a bit of
>>> hardware/software. I run a win2K machine for scanning and taxes.
>> I have only one thing my LINUX box can't address, my slide scanner.
>You deficiencys are your problem, child.
I don't have republican computers, they all work fine and don't demand
money every time I boot up or pass a collection plate.
THOM
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>Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Thom wrote:
>>>> I see your too lazy to go to the website. Why would anyone
>>>> use a buggy MS product when they can get LINUX for free?
>>> Because they can't get suitable drivers for quite a bit of
>>> hardware/software. I run a win2K machine for scanning and taxes.
>> I have only one thing my LINUX box can't address, my slide scanner.
>You deficiencys are your problem, child.
I don't have republican computers, they all work fine and don't demand
money every time I boot up or pass a collection plate.
THOM
Dec 24th 2004, 12:41 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Thom <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I ran for State Parliament in Victoria this last election
> and had not the Labor guy dinged me with 58%
And you only managed 6% of the vote. Wota surprise.
And there were only 3 candidates to vote for, too.
Rather pathetic, really.
> I would be making exactly 3X's the average wage here.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.
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> I ran for State Parliament in Victoria this last election
> and had not the Labor guy dinged me with 58%
And you only managed 6% of the vote. Wota surprise.
And there were only 3 candidates to vote for, too.
Rather pathetic, really.
> I would be making exactly 3X's the average wage here.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.
Dec 24th 2004, 5:18 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Thom wrote:
>
> On , The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >Thom wrote:
> >
> >> I see your too lazy to go to the website. Why would anyone use a
> >> buggy MS product when they can get LINUX for free?
> >
> >Because they can't get suitable drivers for quite a bit of
> >hardware/software. I run a win2K machine for scanning and taxes.
>
> I have only one thing my LINUX box can't address, my slide scanner.
Does SANE support any slide scanners? I got tired of looking. The $79
PrimeFilm 1800u from Costco.com is OK, but the winsoftware is flaky. My
winmachine seems to have lost its parallel port, but when it was working
I could get twice the resolution on my cheap Mustek scanner as when I
ran it under linux.
--
Cheers, Bev
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again
incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
>
> On , The Real Bev <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >Thom wrote:
> >
> >> I see your too lazy to go to the website. Why would anyone use a
> >> buggy MS product when they can get LINUX for free?
> >
> >Because they can't get suitable drivers for quite a bit of
> >hardware/software. I run a win2K machine for scanning and taxes.
>
> I have only one thing my LINUX box can't address, my slide scanner.
Does SANE support any slide scanners? I got tired of looking. The $79
PrimeFilm 1800u from Costco.com is OK, but the winsoftware is flaky. My
winmachine seems to have lost its parallel port, but when it was working
I could get twice the resolution on my cheap Mustek scanner as when I
ran it under linux.
--
Cheers, Bev
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again
incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
Dec 24th 2004, 4:56 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
I like adding fuel to fires:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp_cap
and
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lab_hou_wor
Draw your own conclusions. A quick calculation based on the figures in
these charts:
US GDP per person per hour worked: $20.08
France GDP per person per hour worked: $17.82
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp_cap
and
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lab_hou_wor
Draw your own conclusions. A quick calculation based on the figures in
these charts:
US GDP per person per hour worked: $20.08
France GDP per person per hour worked: $17.82
Dec 24th 2004, 5:08 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
At my company, the salaried guys get 3 weeks a year... eventually. The
first year is 1 week, the second and third years are 2 weeks. After
the third year you get 3 weeks. We also have 10 paid holidays
scattered throughout the year for a total of 25 paid days off. Grand
total hours worked a year are 2080-25*8 = 1880
The hourly guys top out at 2 weeks paid vacation a year. They are
equipment operators and travel alot for the company. The company keeps
them on the road for 3 weeks and then they are home a week. The weeks
they are out, they are guaranteed at least 10 hours a day whether they
work or not. So they get 70 hours minimum when they are on the road.
I estimate they work about 2730 hours a year. About 1170 are overtime
hours.
first year is 1 week, the second and third years are 2 weeks. After
the third year you get 3 weeks. We also have 10 paid holidays
scattered throughout the year for a total of 25 paid days off. Grand
total hours worked a year are 2080-25*8 = 1880
The hourly guys top out at 2 weeks paid vacation a year. They are
equipment operators and travel alot for the company. The company keeps
them on the road for 3 weeks and then they are home a week. The weeks
they are out, they are guaranteed at least 10 hours a day whether they
work or not. So they get 70 hours minimum when they are on the road.
I estimate they work about 2730 hours a year. About 1170 are overtime
hours.