Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???
Nov 1st 2004, 2:09 am
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Re: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>ThePresidentWhoCouldn'tProtectUS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>He's correct. Not only does the U.S. lack paid vacation time, in many cases
>>>it lacks paid holidays and it certainly lacks a decent healthcare system.
> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
> at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
> for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
and their health care system is completely different.
> In article <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>ThePresidentWhoCouldn'tProtectUS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>He's correct. Not only does the U.S. lack paid vacation time, in many cases
>>>it lacks paid holidays and it certainly lacks a decent healthcare system.
> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
> at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
> for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
and their health care system is completely different.
Nov 1st 2004, 2:25 am
#782
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Re: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:09:21 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
>> at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
>> for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>and their health care system is completely different.
japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
compared to the US's minimum of 10, on average it seems they get more
like 33 - something the US doesn't manage until you average users
with over 15 years service. They may indeed choose not to take it,
for similar reasons as people in other countries don't, I know lots of
people in the UK who don't take their full amount.
Jim.
wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
>> at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
>> for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>and their health care system is completely different.
japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
compared to the US's minimum of 10, on average it seems they get more
like 33 - something the US doesn't manage until you average users
with over 15 years service. They may indeed choose not to take it,
for similar reasons as people in other countries don't, I know lots of
people in the UK who don't take their full amount.
Jim.
Nov 1st 2004, 2:39 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
In article <[email protected]>,
Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>Most Europeans have much more time for themselves and their families than
>>In the U.S. it isn't all about work. It's all about money. Specifically
>>making money for the Rich. In order to do that, citizens must believe that
>>it is possible to grab a piece of the American dream no matter how small
>>that piece may be. Willing to trade so much of their lives for more money
>>so they can be more like all those rich and famous icons on American TV.
Are any of them Christians? Because Jesus bluntly warned people it is easier
for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a "rich man to enter
heaven". The GOP has been making Satan's job a whole lot easier with their
huge tax givaways to the wealthy.
Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>Most Europeans have much more time for themselves and their families than
>>In the U.S. it isn't all about work. It's all about money. Specifically
>>making money for the Rich. In order to do that, citizens must believe that
>>it is possible to grab a piece of the American dream no matter how small
>>that piece may be. Willing to trade so much of their lives for more money
>>so they can be more like all those rich and famous icons on American TV.
Are any of them Christians? Because Jesus bluntly warned people it is easier
for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a "rich man to enter
heaven". The GOP has been making Satan's job a whole lot easier with their
huge tax givaways to the wealthy.
Nov 1st 2004, 2:41 am
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Re: USA: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
[email protected] wrote:
>American
>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
This statement shows that you have no clue about business in other countries.
Having worked with companies in Europe, I can tell you that US ones have far
more latitude to hire than ones in Europe. It is so difficult over there to let
someone go, that they will do just about anything to avoid hiring a new person.
>American
>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
This statement shows that you have no clue about business in other countries.
Having worked with companies in Europe, I can tell you that US ones have far
more latitude to hire than ones in Europe. It is so difficult over there to let
someone go, that they will do just about anything to avoid hiring a new person.
Nov 1st 2004, 2:50 am
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Re: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
Jim Ley wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:09:21 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
>>>at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
>>>for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>>>health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>>>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>>>A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>>>have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>>and their health care system is completely different.
>
>
> japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
> compared to the US's minimum of 10,
The US has no minimum.
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:09:21 +1100, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies are
>>>at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck paying
>>>for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>>>health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>>>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>>>A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>>>have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>>and their health care system is completely different.
>
>
> japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
> compared to the US's minimum of 10,
The US has no minimum.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:08 am
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Re: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> <[email protected]> wrote
>>> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies
>>> are at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck
>>> paying for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>>> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>>> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as
>>> possible.
>>> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>>> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>>and their health care system is completely different.
> japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
> compared to the US's minimum of 10, on average it seems they get more
> like 33 - something the US doesn't manage until you average users
> with over 15 years service. They may indeed choose not to take it,
And thats what matters with that terminally silly line about
the health care system having anything to do with it.
It wouldnt surprise me if the japs actually take a lot less
than they used to now that even the japs are laying off.
Hardly surprising that some would try to ensure they
arent personally the ones to be laid off like that.
> for similar reasons as people in other countries don't, I know
> lots of people in the UK who don't take their full amount.
Yeah, plenty who like their work dont.
Some just find holidays a dead bore.
news:[email protected]...
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> <[email protected]> wrote
>>> The 2nd problem strongly encourages the first problem. US companies
>>> are at a natural disadvantage in labor costs because they get stuck
>>> paying for health care while every other first world country has a univeral
>>> health care system. Because of these inflated labor costs American
>>> companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>> as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as
>>> possible.
>>> A screwed up health care system is a large part of the reason Americans
>>> have the lowest vacation levels of the entire first world.
>>Have fun explaining how come the Japs are about the same
>>and their health care system is completely different.
> japanese get 25 days vacation a year, it's a statutory minimum
> compared to the US's minimum of 10, on average it seems they get more
> like 33 - something the US doesn't manage until you average users
> with over 15 years service. They may indeed choose not to take it,
And thats what matters with that terminally silly line about
the health care system having anything to do with it.
It wouldnt surprise me if the japs actually take a lot less
than they used to now that even the japs are laying off.
Hardly surprising that some would try to ensure they
arent personally the ones to be laid off like that.
> for similar reasons as people in other countries don't, I know
> lots of people in the UK who don't take their full amount.
Yeah, plenty who like their work dont.
Some just find holidays a dead bore.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:09 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
In article <[email protected]. net>,
Jane Sitton <[email protected]> wrote:
>It depends upon whether one is salaried or hourly. There are stricter
>laws for hourly work, but some changes went into effect this past August
>making it easier to screw people out of overtime. An example is calling
>someone a manager when he spends most of his time waiting tables or
>ringing up sales. Here's a link for the website explaining the changes:
>http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/
These were created by the Bush administration on behalf of $pecial interest
campaign contributors and rubberstamped by the GOP congress. His new
overtime rules screwed an estimated 6 million American workers. It is
important to realize that Bush is twice as dangerous because the GOP congress
rubberstamps everything he crams down our throats. It is unbelievable
that anyone who works for a living would vote for him.
>Odd to me that the website claims to strengthen overtime protections. I
>guess it's all in how you spin it, eh?
Yes the GOP has been borrowing ideas from George Orwell again.
Jane Sitton <[email protected]> wrote:
>It depends upon whether one is salaried or hourly. There are stricter
>laws for hourly work, but some changes went into effect this past August
>making it easier to screw people out of overtime. An example is calling
>someone a manager when he spends most of his time waiting tables or
>ringing up sales. Here's a link for the website explaining the changes:
>http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/fairpay/
These were created by the Bush administration on behalf of $pecial interest
campaign contributors and rubberstamped by the GOP congress. His new
overtime rules screwed an estimated 6 million American workers. It is
important to realize that Bush is twice as dangerous because the GOP congress
rubberstamps everything he crams down our throats. It is unbelievable
that anyone who works for a living would vote for him.
>Odd to me that the website claims to strengthen overtime protections. I
>guess it's all in how you spin it, eh?
Yes the GOP has been borrowing ideas from George Orwell again.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:27 am
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Re: USA: Screwed up health care system encourages stingy vacation time
In article <[email protected]>,
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>>American
>>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>Having worked with companies in Europe, I can tell you that US ones have far
>more latitude to hire than ones in Europe. It is so difficult over there to let
>someone go, that they will do just about anything to avoid hiring a new person.
Which has nothing at all to do with the fact that America's ****ed up health
care system provides a special incentive to hire as few workers as possible
while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>>American
>>companies in particular have a special incentive to hire as few workers
>>as possible and while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
>Having worked with companies in Europe, I can tell you that US ones have far
>more latitude to hire than ones in Europe. It is so difficult over there to let
>someone go, that they will do just about anything to avoid hiring a new person.
Which has nothing at all to do with the fact that America's ****ed up health
care system provides a special incentive to hire as few workers as possible
while giving each worker as little vacation time as possible.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:37 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Rod Speed wrote:
> "Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>>Antipodean Bucket Farmer writes:
>>>>>There are plenty of restrictions for departing Americans.
>>>>Not so.
>>>Fraid so.
>>>>Americans may leave the country freely, with very rare exceptions.
>>>He was obviously talking about the restrictions
>>>imposed by the destination, given his next sentence.
>>>>>While the US government (like most others)
>>>>>doesn't care much about those who are leaving,
>>>Which is saying just what you said.
>>>>>the destination countries certainly *do* care, and have
>>>>>requirements on who is issued work and residence permits.
>>>>They don't care about anyone who hasn't entered their countries.
>>>Pathetic, really.
>>>>It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>Nope, its always both with permanent movements.
>>Almost but what about the guy living in CDG?
> So rare that its not worth worrying about really.
I suspect that you never think something that disproves one of your
grandiose statements is worth worrying about. You do know the meaning
of the word always? It is pathetic how you try to avoid evidence.
> There are also some stateless people too.
>>>>Most developed nations place no restrictions
>>>>on the former, but many restrictions on the latter.
>>>Which is what he said in different words.
> "Frank F. Matthews" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Rod Speed wrote:
>>>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>>Antipodean Bucket Farmer writes:
>>>>>There are plenty of restrictions for departing Americans.
>>>>Not so.
>>>Fraid so.
>>>>Americans may leave the country freely, with very rare exceptions.
>>>He was obviously talking about the restrictions
>>>imposed by the destination, given his next sentence.
>>>>>While the US government (like most others)
>>>>>doesn't care much about those who are leaving,
>>>Which is saying just what you said.
>>>>>the destination countries certainly *do* care, and have
>>>>>requirements on who is issued work and residence permits.
>>>>They don't care about anyone who hasn't entered their countries.
>>>Pathetic, really.
>>>>It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>Nope, its always both with permanent movements.
>>Almost but what about the guy living in CDG?
> So rare that its not worth worrying about really.
I suspect that you never think something that disproves one of your
grandiose statements is worth worrying about. You do know the meaning
of the word always? It is pathetic how you try to avoid evidence.
> There are also some stateless people too.
>>>>Most developed nations place no restrictions
>>>>on the former, but many restrictions on the latter.
>>>Which is what he said in different words.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:39 am
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Passport Needed???
Deep Frayed Morgues wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:31:50 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>In any case, I know of people who have done exactly that, boarding
>>without a passport. They had some difficulties upon arrival, but they
>>got in.
> OK, which country, and just how many 'difficulties'??? I would be very
> suprised if you were able to get on any international flight without
> showing your passport!!! I never have been able to!
> DFM
As I have said before it is quite common. International flights within
Schengen. Or flights between the US and either Canada or Mexico.
Suitable ID needed but no passport required.
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:31:50 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>In any case, I know of people who have done exactly that, boarding
>>without a passport. They had some difficulties upon arrival, but they
>>got in.
> OK, which country, and just how many 'difficulties'??? I would be very
> suprised if you were able to get on any international flight without
> showing your passport!!! I never have been able to!
> DFM
As I have said before it is quite common. International flights within
Schengen. Or flights between the US and either Canada or Mexico.
Suitable ID needed but no passport required.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:42 am
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Re: Passports??
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:52:32 GMT, George Grapman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>>>Antipodean Bucket Farmer wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>[email protected] says...
>>>snip
>>>>>It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>>I am will aware of the difference. And I am also aware that leaving
>>>>one place involves going to another place. (The only legal
>>>>alternative I can think of would be to spend the rest of your life on
>>>>a boat.)
>>>Or in the transit facility of a suitable airport. Think CDG.
>>>>>Most developed nations place no restrictions on the former, but
>>>>>many restrictions on the latter.
>>>>If you don't think that there are any restrictions on leaving, try
>>>>getting on an international flight without a passport.
>>>Easy as pie for someone from the US going to Canada or Mexico. Or
>>>someone from a Schengen country going to another.
>>>snip
>> Even easier when you walk over the border to Mexico. No official on
>>either side even talk to you.
> There are no officials on the road borders between some Schengen
> lands.
The discussion did concern International flights. Schengen does cause
them some problems though.
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:52:32 GMT, George Grapman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>>>Antipodean Bucket Farmer wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>[email protected] says...
>>>snip
>>>>>It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>>I am will aware of the difference. And I am also aware that leaving
>>>>one place involves going to another place. (The only legal
>>>>alternative I can think of would be to spend the rest of your life on
>>>>a boat.)
>>>Or in the transit facility of a suitable airport. Think CDG.
>>>>>Most developed nations place no restrictions on the former, but
>>>>>many restrictions on the latter.
>>>>If you don't think that there are any restrictions on leaving, try
>>>>getting on an international flight without a passport.
>>>Easy as pie for someone from the US going to Canada or Mexico. Or
>>>someone from a Schengen country going to another.
>>>snip
>> Even easier when you walk over the border to Mexico. No official on
>>either side even talk to you.
> There are no officials on the road borders between some Schengen
> lands.
The discussion did concern International flights. Schengen does cause
them some problems though.
Nov 1st 2004, 3:47 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
In article <[email protected]>,
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>The Real Bev writes:
>> Why do I feel like I've just been insulted? Especially since I'm 1/4
>> German...
>The average American has about 50% German ancestry (the other half
>typically being English).
Especially since the saxon" part of Anglo-Saxon refers to a region in
Germany and the "anglo" part refers to England.
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>The Real Bev writes:
>> Why do I feel like I've just been insulted? Especially since I'm 1/4
>> German...
>The average American has about 50% German ancestry (the other half
>typically being English).
Especially since the saxon" part of Anglo-Saxon refers to a region in
Germany and the "anglo" part refers to England.
Nov 1st 2004, 4:00 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
In article <[email protected]>,
Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>but 80 years ago Argentina was almost certainly first world - what
>went wrong?
>Jim.
Argentina had a significant middle class only 10-20 years ago. Not any more.
Part of the reason for the destruction of their middle class was that their
government ran up too much debt. Sound famaliar?
Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
>but 80 years ago Argentina was almost certainly first world - what
>went wrong?
>Jim.
Argentina had a significant middle class only 10-20 years ago. Not any more.
Part of the reason for the destruction of their middle class was that their
government ran up too much debt. Sound famaliar?
Nov 1st 2004, 4:01 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Antipodean Bucket Farmer writes
>>>>>> There are plenty of restrictions for departing Americans.
>>>>> Not so.
>>>> Fraid so.
>>>>> Americans may leave the country freely, with very rare exceptions.
>>>> He was obviously talking about the restrictions
>>>> imposed by the destination, given his next sentence.
>>>>>> While the US government (like most others)
>>>>>> doesn't care much about those who are leaving,
>>>> Which is saying just what you said.
>>>>>> the destination countries certainly *do* care, and have
>>>>>> requirements on who is issued work and residence permits.
>>>>> They don't care about anyone who hasn't entered their countries.
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>> It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>> Nope, its always both with permanent movements.
>>> Almost but what about the guy living in CDG?
>> So rare that its not worth worrying about really.
> I suspect that you never think something that disproves one of your grandiose
> statements is worth worrying about.
I know that you couldnt even bullshit your way out of a wet
paperbag even if your pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.
> You do know the meaning of the word always?
I dont bother to qualify every statement I make to
allow for such an rare exception as that, just so some
mindless nit picking prat like you cant get off on it.
> It is pathetic how you try to avoid evidence.
Nothing like as pathetic as your utterly mindless nit picking.
Having fun, child ?
>> There are also some stateless people too.
>>>>> Most developed nations place no restrictions
>>>>> on the former, but many restrictions on the latter.
>>>> Which is what he said in different words.
in message news:[email protected]...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Frank F. Matthews <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Antipodean Bucket Farmer writes
>>>>>> There are plenty of restrictions for departing Americans.
>>>>> Not so.
>>>> Fraid so.
>>>>> Americans may leave the country freely, with very rare exceptions.
>>>> He was obviously talking about the restrictions
>>>> imposed by the destination, given his next sentence.
>>>>>> While the US government (like most others)
>>>>>> doesn't care much about those who are leaving,
>>>> Which is saying just what you said.
>>>>>> the destination countries certainly *do* care, and have
>>>>>> requirements on who is issued work and residence permits.
>>>>> They don't care about anyone who hasn't entered their countries.
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>> It's important to distinguish between emigration and immigration.
>>>> Nope, its always both with permanent movements.
>>> Almost but what about the guy living in CDG?
>> So rare that its not worth worrying about really.
> I suspect that you never think something that disproves one of your grandiose
> statements is worth worrying about.
I know that you couldnt even bullshit your way out of a wet
paperbag even if your pathetic excuse for a 'life' depended on it.
> You do know the meaning of the word always?
I dont bother to qualify every statement I make to
allow for such an rare exception as that, just so some
mindless nit picking prat like you cant get off on it.
> It is pathetic how you try to avoid evidence.
Nothing like as pathetic as your utterly mindless nit picking.
Having fun, child ?
>> There are also some stateless people too.
>>>>> Most developed nations place no restrictions
>>>>> on the former, but many restrictions on the latter.
>>>> Which is what he said in different words.
Nov 1st 2004, 4:13 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:32:58 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to john
>>Government agencies aren't in the business of making money.
>>The government gets its money from the private sector.
>>The less government employees the less taxes we have to pay.
>why am I not surprised you cant think beyond your tax bill? Like
>most right wingers you know the price of everything and the value
>of nothing.
Oh, I guess I ruffled the feathers of a lowly civil clerk working for
His Majesty's Government.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to john
>>Government agencies aren't in the business of making money.
>>The government gets its money from the private sector.
>>The less government employees the less taxes we have to pay.
>why am I not surprised you cant think beyond your tax bill? Like
>most right wingers you know the price of everything and the value
>of nothing.
Oh, I guess I ruffled the feathers of a lowly civil clerk working for
His Majesty's Government.