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That old CELL PHONE question again

That old CELL PHONE question again

Old Feb 14th 2007, 3:54 am
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gpope
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Default That old CELL PHONE question again

No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.

This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
America.

We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
have UNLOCKED quad cell phones.

The question is, can I buy 1 SIM card in Europe that is good for more
than 1 country or do I have to buy a SIM card for each country I
visit?
Is there one particular country (SIM card) that offers relatively
cheap roaming fees?
Do any European SIM cards offer roaming calls to multiple countries?
Is there a Roaming issue (dificulty) of trying to call within the
(once) eastern block countries?
IS there a WEB site that provides some comprehensive information on
this subject?

Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.

Gord Pope

[email protected]
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:11 am
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Joseph Coulter
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[email protected] wrote:
> No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
> moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.
>
> This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
> America.
>
> We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
> Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
> few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
> other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
> have UNLOCKED quad cell phones.
>
> The question is, can I buy 1 SIM card in Europe that is good for more
> than 1 country or do I have to buy a SIM card for each country I
> visit?
> Is there one particular country (SIM card) that offers relatively
> cheap roaming fees?
> Do any European SIM cards offer roaming calls to multiple countries?
> Is there a Roaming issue (dificulty) of trying to call within the
> (once) eastern block countries?
> IS there a WEB site that provides some comprehensive information on
> this subject?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.
>
> Gord Pope
>
> [email protected]
www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
these guys ;-(
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:16 am
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Erick T . Barkhuis
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> The question is, can I buy 1 SIM card in Europe that is good for more
> than 1 country or do I have to buy a SIM card for each country I
> visit?

You buy one prepaid SIMcard from an international provider (Vodafone,
Orange) and you'll be OK.

> Is there one particular country (SIM card) that offers relatively
> cheap roaming fees?

Fees/tariffs change a lot and vary for each country. AFAIK, there isn't
one provider that appears to be cheapest in all countries.

> IS there a WEB site that provides some comprehensive information on
> this subject?

Have you googled "prepaid roaming europe tariffs"?
>

Enjoy the trip!

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:18 am
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Alec
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"Joseph Coulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..
> [email protected] wrote:
>> No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
>> moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.
>>
>> This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
>> America.
>>
>> We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
>> Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
>> few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
>> other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
>> have UNLOCKED quad cell phones. The question is, can I buy 1 SIM card in
>> Europe that is good for more
>> than 1 country or do I have to buy a SIM card for each country I
>> visit? Is there one particular country (SIM card) that offers relatively
>> cheap roaming fees? Do any European SIM cards offer roaming calls to
>> multiple countries?
>> Is there a Roaming issue (dificulty) of trying to call within the
>> (once) eastern block countries? IS there a WEB site that provides some
>> comprehensive information on
>> this subject?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.
>>
>> Gord Pope
>>
>> [email protected]
> www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging these
> guys ;-(
>
>
And also get European-spec walkie-talkies (US FRS can't be used in Europe,
as it may interfere with emergency services radio), for as little as 40 euro
a pair in any electronic or AV shop. Free to call each other up to about 1/2
mile apart in cars, about 1-2 miles in open air.

Alec
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:27 am
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-Martin
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:54 -0500, Joseph Coulter <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
>> moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.
>>
>> This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
>> America.
>>
>> We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
>> Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
>> few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
>> other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
>> have UNLOCKED quad cell phones.
>>
>> The question is, can I buy 1 SIM card in Europe that is good for more
>> than 1 country or do I have to buy a SIM card for each country I
>> visit?
>> Is there one particular country (SIM card) that offers relatively
>> cheap roaming fees?
>> Do any European SIM cards offer roaming calls to multiple countries?
>> Is there a Roaming issue (dificulty) of trying to call within the
>> (once) eastern block countries?
>> IS there a WEB site that provides some comprehensive information on
>> this subject?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.
>>
>> Gord Pope
>>
>> [email protected]
>www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
>these guys ;-(

Are you sure you are not?

I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap. He specifically
said "This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
America."
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Martin
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:34 am
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David Horne
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:54 -0500, Joseph Coulter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
> >> moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.
> >>
> >> This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
> >> America.
> >>
> >> We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
> >> Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
> >> few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
> >> other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
> >> have UNLOCKED quad cell phones.
[]
> >> Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.
> >>
> >> Gord Pope
> >>
> >> [email protected]
> >www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
> >these guys ;-(
>
> Are you sure you are not?
>
> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.

Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
fee per call.

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:40 am
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-Martin
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:58 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:54 -0500, Joseph Coulter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >> No doubt the subject has been discussed many times here but, at the
>> >> moment, I cannot find answers to my questions.
>> >>
>> >> This does NOT involve calls back to Canada or anywhere else in North
>> >> America.
>> >>
>> >> We are 1/2 of 2 couples travelling in separate vehicles in Germany,
>> >> Chech Rep, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia, Italy. And maybe a
>> >> few more countries. We are concerned about keeping in touch with each
>> >> other as it is quite possible that we will become separated. We each
>> >> have UNLOCKED quad cell phones.
>[]
>> >> Thanks in advance for any help or related experiences.
>> >>
>> >> Gord Pope
>> >>
>> >> [email protected]
>> >www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
>> >these guys ;-(
>>
>> Are you sure you are not?
>>
>> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.
>
>Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
>solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
>SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
>fee per call.

Compared to Orange and Vodafone's rates of ...
--

Martin
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:44 am
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David Horne
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:58 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:54 -0500, Joseph Coulter
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> >www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
> >> >these guys ;-(
> >>
> >> Are you sure you are not?
> >>
> >> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.
> >
> >Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
> >solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> >SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> >fee per call.
>
> Compared to Orange and Vodafone's rates of ...

What, exactly? Vodafone's pasport rate won't work in all those
countries, for a start, and the minute you take the SIM into another
country, calling each other will be very expensive.

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:47 am
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Erick T . Barkhuis
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Martin:
> David Horne

> > As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> >SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> >fee per call.
>
> Compared to Orange and Vodafone's rates of ...

More, I'm afraid, since the callee will have to pay for the incoming call
as well. I just found out that united-mobile doesn't charge for an
incoming call.

However, I haven't found their tariffs for cell-to-cell calls. I thought
the 39cents tariff is to a normal phone, only.

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:51 am
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David Horne
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Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Martin:
> > David Horne
>
> > > As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> > >SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> > >fee per call.
> >
> > Compared to Orange and Vodafone's rates of ...
>
> More, I'm afraid, since the callee will have to pay for the incoming call
> as well. I just found out that united-mobile doesn't charge for an
> incoming call.
>
> However, I haven't found their tariffs for cell-to-cell calls. I thought
> the 39cents tariff is to a normal phone, only.

It's 20 cents a minute more to call a cell phone in Europe. It's 39
cents to call a united mobile phone though. The OP suggests they'll
mostly be calling each other however. Given the number of countries they
will be in, I think a united-mobile SIM is a good suggestion.

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:52 am
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Erick T . Barkhuis
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*):

> and the minute you take the SIM into another
> country, calling each other will be very expensive.

Well, yes, but in order to be able to call using united, both couples
have to buy a sim card for 40 euros each (with 15 euros on the card). So
that's 50 euros gone to begin with.


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Erick
 
Old Feb 14th 2007, 4:54 am
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David Horne
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Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*):
>
> > and the minute you take the SIM into another
> > country, calling each other will be very expensive.
>
> Well, yes, but in order to be able to call using united, both couples
> have to buy a sim card for 40 euros each (with 15 euros on the card). So
> that's 50 euros gone to begin with.

So that's something they will have to weigh up. Given the number of
countries they're in, I think I'd opt for the two SIMs.

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 5:01 am
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David Horne
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:58 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> > chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >
> > >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:11:54 -0500, Joseph Coulter
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
> > >> >www.united-mobile.com I really wish I was getting paid for plugging
> > >> >these guys ;-(
> > >>
> > >> Are you sure you are not?
> > >>
> > >> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.
> > >
> > >Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
> > >solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> > >SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> > >fee per call.
> >
> > Compared to Orange and Vodafone's rates of ...
>
> What, exactly? Vodafone's pasport rate won't work in all those
> countries, for a start,

Actually, just checking, it might well do. They seem to have greatly
increased the number of partner networks since I last checked.

<http://www.abroad.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm?do=cost.passport&meĀ”&nu=1&
le=1&sn=s7>

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 10:35 am
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Jack Campin - bogus addre
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>>> www.united-mobile.com
>> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.
> Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
> solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> fee per call.

They don't cover Iran.

Is there an affordable SIM that does, apart from local providers?

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Old Feb 14th 2007, 5:12 pm
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Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>> www.united-mobile.com
> >> I already pointed out that within Europe they are not cheap.
> > Given the countries that they will be in, it's a prefectly good one-SIM
> > solution. As they want to contact each other, then two united-mobile
> > SIMs is a pretty good idea- 39 euro cents a minute with a 25 cent set-up
> > fee per call.
>
> They don't cover Iran.

it's not in Europe, and the OP isn't going there.

> Is there an affordable SIM that does, apart from local providers?

I would doubt it, and suspect getting a local SIM would be best.
uk.telecom.mobile or alt.cellular might know...

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