o2 London stinks
 

I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number to
reach me at.

Nothing but a mess.

O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
useless as can be imagined.

I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
letting it roam.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Danglerb wrote:
    > I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
    > UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number to
    > reach me at.
    >
    > Nothing but a mess.
    >
    > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    > cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    > finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    > whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
    > of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    > useless as can be imagined.
    >
    > I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    > letting it roam.
    >

I'm taking my T Mobile triband in 2 weeks to Scotland and Paris as most
of the cards seem to be a pain in the ass.
I'll just keep it off all day and check messages off the phone.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Danglerb wrote:

    > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > 250,
Huh? Did you buy a pay-as-you-go or a prepaid SIM?

PAYG sim-packs come with Cash values not minutes.

o2 prepaid contracts' inclusive minutes never count towards roaming
inwards or international calls.

    > and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > tried to use.
Agreed

    > one 18 min call home popped the
    > whole amount.
Sounds like a PAYG SIM, which will be very expensive to run if you're
calling home.
    > I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    > letting it roam.
Probably.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Danglerb wrote:
    >
    > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    > cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    > finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    > whole amount.
>
Orange PAYG SIMs charge 20 pence per minute to the US, billed in
one-second increments. Your 18 minute call would have been much cheaper
on Orange.
I've been using a US credit card to top up my Orange SIMs for a number
of years.
I've just checked the Orange website, and PAYG SIMs are available for
GBP 1 (which includes shipping and handling). When you register the
SIM, you get GBP 1 credited to your account, so the card is effectively
free.
I keep a few O2 SIMs as backup, for use in a few remote places in which
Orange coverage is poor.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Thus spaketh Danglerb:
    > I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
    > UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number
    > to reach me at.
    > Nothing but a mess.
    > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    > cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    > finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    > whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
    > of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    > useless as can be imagined.
    > I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    > letting it roam.


International calls on O2 PAYG are a rip-off, this is where they make
their money, they charge about £1.50 min, though with a one off payment
of £4.99 you can add the International Caller Bolt On calls are then
15p/min to USA/Canada. Still a rip-off considering from a landline you
can call the USA for 0.5p/min or free with certain VoIP providers like
VoIPStunt.com or inclusive calls providers. Virgin Mobile charge 20p
min to the USA without any need for extra bolt ons.

The only trouble with roaming is the high costs to call home and to
receive calls, if you pick an OK UK service the call costs aren't too
bad, plus in the UK like most other countries receiving calls does not
cost.

Usually a good idea to use local SIM for incoming calls and a calling
card (not from a mobile) for calling outside your current country.


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Re: o2 London stinks
 

Please do not come to Paris, evleth is unfortunately out of town, fighting
the israeli forces in south Lebanon.

"Bob Barnett" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > Danglerb wrote:
    >> I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
    >> UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number to
    >> reach me at.
    >> Nothing but a mess.
    >> O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    >> 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    >> tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    >> cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    >> finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    >> whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
    >> of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    >> useless as can be imagined.
    >> I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    >> letting it roam.
    > I'm taking my T Mobile triband in 2 weeks to Scotland and Paris as most of
    > the cards seem to be a pain in the ass.
    > I'll just keep it off all day and check messages off the phone.
    >

Re: o2 London stinks
 

"S Viemeister" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Danglerb wrote:
    >> O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    >> 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    >> tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    >> cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    >> finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    >> whole amount.
    > Orange PAYG SIMs charge 20 pence per minute to the US, billed in
    > one-second increments. Your 18 minute call would have been much cheaper
    > on Orange.

Indeed which is one reason I have just switched but the O2 website is quite
clear on international tariffs

http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/t...paygo/talkalot

You can get an international rate bolt on for £5 which drops
the call rate to the USA from £1.50 per minute to 15p
per minute

http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/t...alcallerbolton

Keith

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Thus spaketh S Viemeister:
    > Danglerb wrote:
    >> O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    >> 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    >> tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    >> cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    >> finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    >> whole amount.
    > Orange PAYG SIMs charge 20 pence per minute to the US, billed in
    > one-second increments. Your 18 minute call would have been much
    > cheaper on Orange.
    > I've been using a US credit card to top up my Orange SIMs for a number
    > of years.
    > I've just checked the Orange website, and PAYG SIMs are available for
    > GBP 1 (which includes shipping and handling). When you register the
    > SIM, you get GBP 1 credited to your account, so the card is
    > effectively free.
    > I keep a few O2 SIMs as backup, for use in a few remote places in
    > which Orange coverage is poor.

They often offer them for free too, like Virgin, T-Mobile, O2 and
Vodafone do from time to time.

Orange have some free at the moment:

http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/thehits2
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/thebox
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/smashhits2
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/xtaster
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/360x
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/sonic
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/virginsimoffer
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/mgm


Virgin: http://www.virginmobilefreesim.com

O2: http://ucaspromo.o2.co.uk/talker.php


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Re: o2 London stinks
 

"Danglerb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
    >I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
    > UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number to
    > reach me at.
    > Nothing but a mess.
    > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    > cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    > finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    > whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
    > of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    > useless as can be imagined.

Totally OT but I've never seen anyone British ever use 'L' to mean pounds.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Following up to Danglerb

    >I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    >letting it roam.

I thought it was going to be an air quality thread.
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Re: o2 London stinks
 

nicandal <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Danglerb wrote:
    >
    > > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > > 250,
    > Huh? Did you buy a pay-as-you-go or a prepaid SIM?
    >
    > PAYG sim-packs come with Cash values not minutes.
    >
    > o2 prepaid contracts' inclusive minutes never count towards roaming
    > inwards or international calls.
    >
    > > and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > > tried to use.
    > Agreed
    >
    > > one 18 min call home popped the
    > > whole amount.
    > Sounds like a PAYG SIM, which will be very expensive to run if you're
    > calling home.

Actually, on some providers the PAYG rate is the same as the contract
rate.

I've mentioned this before, but there are cheaper alternatives. Get a
SIM (e.g. Tesco, Easymobile) which has flat rates to 0870 numbers, and
use a call through service (plenty available- I use telediscount.) With
a Tesco value or Easymobile SIM, the calls to the US would cost 15p a
minute.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    > Thus spaketh Danglerb:
    > > I bought a nice triband phone before leaving the US, and also bought a
    > > UK o2 sim so I could hit the ground running and give people a number
    > > to reach me at.
    > >
    > > Nothing but a mess.
    > >
    > > O2 sim I bought turned out to have ZERO minutes included instead of
    > > 250, and o2.co.uk has to be the most worthless website I have ever
    > > tried to use. No real information of any kind, won't accept US credit
    > > cards, but gives no error message showing that is the problem. I
    > > finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    > > whole amount. Website still doesn't show any cost or call information
    > > of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    > > useless as can be imagined.
    > >
    > > I think I would have been better off leaving in the US Tmobile sim and
    > > letting it roam.
    >
    >
    > International calls on O2 PAYG are a rip-off, this is where they make
    > their money, they charge about £1.50 min, though with a one off payment
    > of £4.99 you can add the International Caller Bolt On calls are then
    > 15p/min to USA/Canada. Still a rip-off considering from a landline you
    > can call the USA for 0.5p/min or free with certain VoIP providers like
    > VoIPStunt.com or inclusive calls providers. Virgin Mobile charge 20p
    > min to the USA without any need for extra bolt ons.

I pay 9p a minute on Tesco (PAYG) Extra using an 0870 call through
service.

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Re: o2 London stinks
 

Mark Hewitt wrote:

    > "Danglerb" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>of any kind. I put in another L10, but its turning out just about as
    >>useless as can be imagined.
    >
    >
    > Totally OT but I've never seen anyone British ever use 'L' to mean pounds.
    >
    >
Most Britons will have the pound symbol on their keyboards.
I generally use the standard 'GBP' abbreviation.

Re: o2 London stinks
 

Following up to "Danglerb" <[email protected]> :

    >I
    >finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    >whole amount.

I'm not surprised. 10 Lire won't get you far.
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Re: o2 London stinks
 

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:38:16 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Following up to "Danglerb" <[email protected]> :
    >>I
    >>finally topped up L10 at a Tesco, and one 18 min call home popped the
    >>whole amount.
    >I'm not surprised. 10 Lire won't get you far.

Even Mixi won't accept one.
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