Notice for those who are coming to Rome or are willing to.
Apr 4th 2005, 2:55 pm
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[email protected] wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>Go Fig wrote:
>>>>Rest in Peace!
>>>>jay
>>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
>>>>mailto:[email protected]
>>>Strange payback though.
>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
>>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
>>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
>>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
>>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
>
>
> the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
student!)
>
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>Go Fig wrote:
>>>>Rest in Peace!
>>>>jay
>>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
>>>>mailto:[email protected]
>>>Strange payback though.
>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
>>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
>>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
>>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
>>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
>
>
> the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
student!)
>
Apr 4th 2005, 2:58 pm
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Bart wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Bart wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>Strange payback though.
>>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
>>>This could be rephrased as:
>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it takes you from this
>>>world of sin and suffering and gives you eternal life.
>>>Just depends on your point of view.
>>so because he was so devoted he got to suffer more,
>>and we got to suffer the news bulletins.
>
>
> If you really want to understand, go read up on Christianity.
You're assuming this turkey CAN "read" - which appears doubtful.
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Bart wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>Strange payback though.
>>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
>>>This could be rephrased as:
>>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it takes you from this
>>>world of sin and suffering and gives you eternal life.
>>>Just depends on your point of view.
>>so because he was so devoted he got to suffer more,
>>and we got to suffer the news bulletins.
>
>
> If you really want to understand, go read up on Christianity.
You're assuming this turkey CAN "read" - which appears doubtful.
>
Apr 5th 2005, 5:52 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> >
> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Go Fig wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Rest in Peace!
> >>>>
> >>>>jay
> >>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
> >>>>mailto:[email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Strange payback though.
> >>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> >>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
> >>
> >>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
> >>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
> >>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
> >
> >
> > the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
> You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
> you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
> the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
> commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
> student!)
> >
what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
> [email protected] wrote:
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> >
> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Go Fig wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Rest in Peace!
> >>>>
> >>>>jay
> >>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
> >>>>mailto:[email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Strange payback though.
> >>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> >>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
> >>
> >>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
> >>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
> >>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
> >
> >
> > the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
> You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
> you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
> the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
> commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
> student!)
> >
what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
Apr 5th 2005, 5:56 am
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Bart wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Strange payback though.
> > Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> This could be rephrased as:
> Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it takes you from this
> world of sin and suffering and gives you eternal life.
> Just depends on your point of view.
some people say Hitler was misunderstood.
Just depends on your point of view.
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Strange payback though.
> > Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> This could be rephrased as:
> Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it takes you from this
> world of sin and suffering and gives you eternal life.
> Just depends on your point of view.
some people say Hitler was misunderstood.
Just depends on your point of view.
Apr 5th 2005, 8:33 am
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In article <[email protected] .com>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> > >
> > >>[email protected] wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Go Fig wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Rest in Peace!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>jay
> > >>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
> > >>>>mailto:[email protected]
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Strange payback though.
> > >>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> > >>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
> > >>
> > >>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
> > >>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
> > >>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
> > >
> > >
> > > the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
> >
> > You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
> > you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
> > the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
> > commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
> > student!)
> > >
>
> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
the assassination of him....
jay
Tue Apr 05, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
>
<[email protected]> wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> > >
> > >>[email protected] wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Go Fig wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Rest in Peace!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>jay
> > >>>>Sat Apr 02, 2005
> > >>>>mailto:[email protected]
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Strange payback though.
> > >>>Devote your life to your God and then he/she/it kills you.
> > >>>And makes you suffer for months before hand.
> > >>
> > >>So? That's different from the fate of any other mortal
> > >>being? (And for "true believers", death is the beginning of
> > >>eternal bliss, so counts as reward, not punishment.)
> > >
> > >
> > > the punishment was putting this shit on my TV screen.
> >
> > You certainly have a truly "cosmopolitan" attitude, haven't
> > you? Most of the world is actually interested in knowing of
> > the death of a major historical personage. (It's a sad
> > commentary on our educational system if you are a typical
> > student!)
> > >
>
> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
the assassination of him....
jay
Tue Apr 05, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
>
Apr 5th 2005, 8:36 am
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> the assassination of him....
Indeed.
Pity his opinion on the Iraq war didn't intimidate the hell out of Bush
and Blair.
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[]
> Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> the assassination of him....
Indeed.
Pity his opinion on the Iraq war didn't intimidate the hell out of Bush
and Blair.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Apr 5th 2005, 9:23 am
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In article <1guken2.en1qpw4ro0i4N%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.com>,
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
> > Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> > credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> > the assassination of him....
>
> Indeed.
>
> Pity his opinion on the Iraq war didn't intimidate the hell out of Bush
> and Blair.
Perhaps and most likely so, if he came from the Parish of Bagdad,
rather then Krakow, there would have may have been no outwardly
opposition to the war.
You do know that the Pope was against the border control war in
Bosnia...
jay
Tue Apr 05, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> []
> > Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> > credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> > the assassination of him....
>
> Indeed.
>
> Pity his opinion on the Iraq war didn't intimidate the hell out of Bush
> and Blair.
Perhaps and most likely so, if he came from the Parish of Bagdad,
rather then Krakow, there would have may have been no outwardly
opposition to the war.
You do know that the Pope was against the border control war in
Bosnia...
jay
Tue Apr 05, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
Apr 5th 2005, 9:28 am
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Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Perhaps and most likely so, if he came from the Parish of Bagdad,
> rather then Krakow, there would have may have been no outwardly
> opposition to the war.
And?
> You do know that the Pope was against the border control war in
> Bosnia...
He may have had a point.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> Perhaps and most likely so, if he came from the Parish of Bagdad,
> rather then Krakow, there would have may have been no outwardly
> opposition to the war.
And?
> You do know that the Pope was against the border control war in
> Bosnia...
He may have had a point.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Apr 5th 2005, 10:13 pm
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Following up to Go Fig
>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>the assassination of him....
Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
aids.
On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
Nelson Mandela.
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>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>the assassination of him....
Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
aids.
On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
Nelson Mandela.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-Photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Apr 5th 2005, 10:42 pm
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[email protected] wrote:
> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
Well, let's see:
He encouraged pedophiles by ignoring them.
He caused orphans to not be adopted, and unwanted children to be
born, by discouraging the use of contraception, and abortion when
contraception failed.
He increased the population in general, and the population afflicted
with AIDS in particular, by discouraging the use of condoms.
He decimated the priesthood by denying it to the married.
He encouraged misogyny by denying the penisless the priesthood.
He played a passive, but significant, rôle in the cessation of the
Cold War.
He tried to ease the animosity between believers in his One True God
and the believers in the 600 or so other One True gods.
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> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
Well, let's see:
He encouraged pedophiles by ignoring them.
He caused orphans to not be adopted, and unwanted children to be
born, by discouraging the use of contraception, and abortion when
contraception failed.
He increased the population in general, and the population afflicted
with AIDS in particular, by discouraging the use of condoms.
He decimated the priesthood by denying it to the married.
He encouraged misogyny by denying the penisless the priesthood.
He played a passive, but significant, rôle in the cessation of the
Cold War.
He tried to ease the animosity between believers in his One True God
and the believers in the 600 or so other One True gods.
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Apr 6th 2005, 8:08 am
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:11 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Go Fig
>>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>>the assassination of him....
>Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
>you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
>on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
>aids.
>On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
>Nelson Mandela.
Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Go Fig
>>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>>the assassination of him....
>Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
>you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
>on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
>aids.
>On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
>Nelson Mandela.
Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
Apr 6th 2005, 8:36 am
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In article <[email protected]>, nitram
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:11 +0100, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to Go Fig
> >
> >>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
> >>
> >>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> >>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> >>the assassination of him....
> >
> >Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
> >you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
> >on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
> >aids.
> >On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
> >Nelson Mandela.
>
> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
Prison porn....
jay
Wed Apr 06, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:11 +0100, The Reids
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to Go Fig
> >
> >>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
> >>
> >>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
> >>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
> >>the assassination of him....
> >
> >Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
> >you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
> >on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
> >aids.
> >On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
> >Nelson Mandela.
>
> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
Prison porn....
jay
Wed Apr 06, 2005
mailto:[email protected]
Apr 6th 2005, 10:59 am
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:36:13 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, nitram
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:11 +0100, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to Go Fig
>> >
>> >>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>> >>
>> >>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>> >>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>> >>the assassination of him....
>> >
>> >Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
>> >you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
>> >on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
>> >aids.
>> >On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
>> >Nelson Mandela.
>>
>> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
>Prison porn....
Blessed erotica?
>In article <[email protected]>, nitram
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:13:11 +0100, The Reids
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Following up to Go Fig
>> >
>> >>> what did he do that was worthy of praise ?
>> >>
>> >>Intimidated the hell out of the Soviets... to the point where there is
>> >>credible evidence pointing to the fact that (they) may have been behind
>> >>the assassination of him....
>> >
>> >Do you think the soviet union collapsed because of the Pope? Also
>> >you need to balance anything there with his illiberal attitudes
>> >on sex, I don't think anti condoms is a good policy for African
>> >aids.
>> >On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he wasn't
>> >Nelson Mandela.
>>
>> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
>Prison porn....
Blessed erotica?
Apr 6th 2005, 11:17 am
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>>>> On balance, his death is as sad as the next mans, but he
>>>> wasn't Nelson Mandela.
>>> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
>> Prison porn.
> Blessed erotica?
Demon now carries the newsgroup it.eventi.papa2005, in which
somebody (my Italian is minimal, why can't they just use Latin
like God intended?) appears to be suggesting that the College
of Cardinals had a bukkake party over the body in private (not
that I know what "bukkake" would have been in the language of
Catullus).
I think I *do* understand some of what they're saying about the
"security" arrangements, and Rome doesn't look like a very
appealing place to live at the moment.
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>>>> wasn't Nelson Mandela.
>>> Winnie would have changed his attitude to sex :-)
>> Prison porn.
> Blessed erotica?
Demon now carries the newsgroup it.eventi.papa2005, in which
somebody (my Italian is minimal, why can't they just use Latin
like God intended?) appears to be suggesting that the College
of Cardinals had a bukkake party over the body in private (not
that I know what "bukkake" would have been in the language of
Catullus).
I think I *do* understand some of what they're saying about the
"security" arrangements, and Rome doesn't look like a very
appealing place to live at the moment.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
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<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
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Apr 6th 2005, 10:26 pm
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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> why can't they just use Latin like God intended?
According to the ultimate authority on such things, the Jews' god
spoke Hebrew. Is it unreasonable to presume that the worshipers of
the Jew who Catholics worship as a god also spoke Hebrew as his
primary language and, perhaps, Latin and/or Amharic as secondary
language(s)?
I don't recall specific languages of particular people being
mentioned in the Book of Judeo-Christian Mythology. Does it say who
spoke what?
Who's the "ultimate authority"? Cecil B. DeMille, but you knew that.
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> why can't they just use Latin like God intended?
According to the ultimate authority on such things, the Jews' god
spoke Hebrew. Is it unreasonable to presume that the worshipers of
the Jew who Catholics worship as a god also spoke Hebrew as his
primary language and, perhaps, Latin and/or Amharic as secondary
language(s)?
I don't recall specific languages of particular people being
mentioned in the Book of Judeo-Christian Mythology. Does it say who
spoke what?
Who's the "ultimate authority"? Cecil B. DeMille, but you knew that.
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