Night Train from Paris to Rome
Jun 21st 2007, 7:37 am
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:01:32 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >If you're in a 4-couchette compartment, you will only have 2 strangers
> >in there with you. I had no problem with the trip and would do it
> >again. It allows you to leave Paris in the evening and be in Italy the
> >next morning. Flying usually ruins an entire day.
>
> That's rubbish. Take an evening flight to Italy and be in Italy the same day.
> I've sometimes done a days work, before flying via Paris to Italy.
I recently took my students to Riga. We did have to leave Manchester
early (4am bus to Liverpool airport) but we were at the hostel before
noon!
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:01:32 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >If you're in a 4-couchette compartment, you will only have 2 strangers
> >in there with you. I had no problem with the trip and would do it
> >again. It allows you to leave Paris in the evening and be in Italy the
> >next morning. Flying usually ruins an entire day.
>
> That's rubbish. Take an evening flight to Italy and be in Italy the same day.
> I've sometimes done a days work, before flying via Paris to Italy.
I recently took my students to Riga. We did have to leave Manchester
early (4am bus to Liverpool airport) but we were at the hostel before
noon!
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jun 21st 2007, 8:18 am
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>error message. What can I do?????
>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>Please help.
>
> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
> operated by SNCF.
------------
EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
Trenitalia.
Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
this night train over SNCF booking site.
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> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>error message. What can I do?????
>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>Please help.
>
> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
> operated by SNCF.
------------
EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
Trenitalia.
Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
this night train over SNCF booking site.
Jun 21st 2007, 9:22 am
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:06 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>>error message. What can I do?????
>>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>>Please help.
>>
>> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
>> operated by SNCF.
>------------
>EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
>DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
>227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
>Trenitalia.
>Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
>this night train over SNCF booking site.
I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
operated the sleepers.
It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
question is: How do you get more information if you have a
question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
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>
>
>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>>error message. What can I do?????
>>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>>Please help.
>>
>> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
>> operated by SNCF.
>------------
>EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
>DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
>227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
>Trenitalia.
>Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
>this night train over SNCF booking site.
I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
operated the sleepers.
It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
question is: How do you get more information if you have a
question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
--
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Jun 21st 2007, 11:52 am
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:06 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>>>error message. What can I do?????
>>>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>>>Please help.
>>>
>>> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
>>> operated by SNCF.
>>------------
>>EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
>>DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
>>227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
>>Trenitalia.
>>Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
>>this night train over SNCF booking site.
>
> I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
> operated the sleepers.
>
> It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
> question is: How do you get more information if you have a
> question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
>
SNCF is probably the right instance to call as they're responsible for the
booking.
Don't think there's a separate booking site for Artesia.
As I can see the o.p have by mistake made a booking he wants to cancel.
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:06 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
>>>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
>>>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
>>>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
>>>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
>>>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
>>>>error message. What can I do?????
>>>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
>>>>compartment on upper bunks.
>>>>Please help.
>>>
>>> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
>>> operated by SNCF.
>>------------
>>EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
>>DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
>>227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
>>Trenitalia.
>>Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
>>this night train over SNCF booking site.
>
> I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
> operated the sleepers.
>
> It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
> question is: How do you get more information if you have a
> question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
>
SNCF is probably the right instance to call as they're responsible for the
booking.
Don't think there's a separate booking site for Artesia.
As I can see the o.p have by mistake made a booking he wants to cancel.
Jun 21st 2007, 1:01 pm
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
Hatunen,
Thanks, that is exactly what I've been looking for. I can't find out
who to contact SNCF. I've emailed them using the link on their site
but I don't get a respones.
The SNCF website doesn't always translate every page into English so
it's a bit of a challenge to get answers since my French is somewhat
limited.
The biggest problem is the 1st class double sleeper prices is listed,
but when you try to book it you get an error message. I've tired
booked several different dates and everytime you get the same
message.
On Jun 21, 5:22 pm, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:06 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
> >>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
> >>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
> >>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
> >>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
> >>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
> >>>error message. What can I do?????
> >>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
> >>>compartment on upper bunks.
> >>>Please help.
>
> >> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
> >> operated by SNCF.
> >------------
> >EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
> >DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
> >227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
> >Trenitalia.
> >Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
> >this night train over SNCF booking site.
>
> I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
> operated the sleepers.
>
> It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
> question is: How do you get more information if you have a
> question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
>
> --
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Thanks, that is exactly what I've been looking for. I can't find out
who to contact SNCF. I've emailed them using the link on their site
but I don't get a respones.
The SNCF website doesn't always translate every page into English so
it's a bit of a challenge to get answers since my French is somewhat
limited.
The biggest problem is the 1st class double sleeper prices is listed,
but when you try to book it you get an error message. I've tired
booked several different dates and everytime you get the same
message.
On Jun 21, 5:22 pm, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:06 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"Hatunen" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:26:28 -0700, brewster
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>Help, we have booked 2 tickets for the night train #227 from Paris to
> >>>Rome in August and now we've found out that we are in a compartment
> >>>for 4 which is supposed to be first class. What I wanted to book was
> >>>a double sleeper in first class, not a couchette.
> >>>I've tired several times to book a double on-line using SNCF's
> >>>website, however it will not let me book a double. I keep getting an
> >>>error message. What can I do?????
> >>>We are not going to spend 14 hours with two strangers in a small
> >>>compartment on upper bunks.
> >>>Please help.
>
> >> The 227 is a EuroNight train and, strcictly speaking, is not
> >> operated by SNCF.
> >------------
> >EN Euro night is just a market name like IC,Intercity and EC Eurocity so
> >DB,SJ and a number of European national railways do operate EN-trains
> >227 however is operated by Artesia , a daughter company to SNCF and
> >Trenitalia.
> >Doesn't make so much sense for the average traveller as you can easy book
> >this night train over SNCF booking site.
>
> I assume you could do the same back in the days when Wagon-Lits
> operated the sleepers.
>
> It's not the initial booking that's at question here. The
> question is: How do you get more information if you have a
> question? Should the OP call Artesia? Is there a help number?
>
> --
> ************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Jun 27th 2007, 11:19 pm
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Re: Night Train from Paris to Rome
Yes there is a fault on the SNCF website which prevents you booking double sleepers. I know this because I had the same problem with their English site and had an email confirming the problem. I had to book my sleepers by phone. Try www.raileurope.co.uk for their English site.
The site still tells you whether there are sleepers available, it is just that you cannot book them.
I recommend you look at this site www.seat61.com for everything about European train travel.
Also there is a restaurant car on the train so you can buy food.
Hope this helps.
Chris
The site still tells you whether there are sleepers available, it is just that you cannot book them.
I recommend you look at this site www.seat61.com for everything about European train travel.
Also there is a restaurant car on the train so you can buy food.
Hope this helps.
Chris
