National Anthem Traditions?
Sep 2nd 2004, 7:36 pm
#166
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>tune.
>>>
>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>
> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>
> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
--
Tim C.
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>tune.
>>>
>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>
> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>
> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
--
Tim C.
Sep 2nd 2004, 7:44 pm
#167
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>tune.
>>>>
>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>
>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>
>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
During the blitz?
Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>tune.
>>>>
>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>
>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>
>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
During the blitz?
Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
Sep 2nd 2004, 7:45 pm
#168
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>tune.
>>>>
>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>
>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>
>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
See
http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>tune.
>>>>
>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>
>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>
>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
See
http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:12 pm
#169
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>
> During the blitz?
:-)
No, Within the last 2 years, definitely. I was most likely fixing the
motorbike or making a bird-table. That sort of thing.
> Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
Got about a bit did Bruckner. There's a concert hall and (pretty good)
orchestra named after him here. I don't like his music personally, it's not
unlike Mahler (I fell asleep in the first row once, but then so did the
timpani player in the orchestra, so I don't feel too bad about it).
--
Tim C.
>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>
> During the blitz?
:-)
No, Within the last 2 years, definitely. I was most likely fixing the
motorbike or making a bird-table. That sort of thing.
> Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
Got about a bit did Bruckner. There's a concert hall and (pretty good)
orchestra named after him here. I don't like his music personally, it's not
unlike Mahler (I fell asleep in the first row once, but then so did the
timpani player in the orchestra, so I don't feel too bad about it).
--
Tim C.
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:17 pm
#170
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:12:06 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>>
>> During the blitz?
>:-)
>No, Within the last 2 years, definitely. I was most likely fixing the
>motorbike or making a bird-table. That sort of thing.
ah!
>
>> Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
>Got about a bit did Bruckner.
It's odd that so much decomposing went on in such a tiny place as
Helgoland too
>here's a concert hall and (pretty good)
>orchestra named after him here. I don't like his music personally, it's not
>unlike Mahler (I fell asleep in the first row once, but then so did the
>timpani player in the orchestra, so I don't feel too bad about it).
:o)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>>
>> During the blitz?
>:-)
>No, Within the last 2 years, definitely. I was most likely fixing the
>motorbike or making a bird-table. That sort of thing.
ah!
>
>> Bruchner composed on Helgoland.
>Got about a bit did Bruckner.
It's odd that so much decomposing went on in such a tiny place as
Helgoland too
>here's a concert hall and (pretty good)
>orchestra named after him here. I don't like his music personally, it's not
>unlike Mahler (I fell asleep in the first row once, but then so did the
>timpani player in the orchestra, so I don't feel too bad about it).
:o)
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:20 pm
#171
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:45:49 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>>tune.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>>
>>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>>
>>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
> See
> http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
Damned Google, eh?
So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
wrote the lyric.
--
Tim C.
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>>tune.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>>
>>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>>
>>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
> See
> http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
Damned Google, eh?
So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
wrote the lyric.
--
Tim C.
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:25 pm
#172
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:20:10 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:45:49 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>>>tune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>>>
>>>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>>>
>>>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>> See
>> http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
>Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
>Damned Google, eh?
>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>wrote the lyric.
Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:45:49 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:36:20 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>>>>tune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>>>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>>>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>>>>
>>>> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>>>>
>>>> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
>>>Could be. I don't remember. I think it was a BBC World Service radio
>>>programm I was listening to in the cellar once.
>> See
>> http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de...chlandlied.htm
>Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
>Damned Google, eh?
>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>wrote the lyric.
Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:28 pm
#173
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:34:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>tune.
>>>
>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>
> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>
> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
Helgoland, yes. So it seems.
1st July 1890 Germany and Britain sign the Helgoland-Zanzibar contract. In
which Germany gives up Zanzibar to Britain in return for Helgoland occupied
by Britain since 1807 (previously ruled by Denmark).
Anyway, Haydn only wrote the tune.
The text was written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben, and was a patriotic call
to all the German branches to unite, rather than to say that Germany was
better than everyone else (which is the incorrect, post-war common
interpretation).
--
Tim C.
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:34:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:41:52 -0600, Hatunen wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:01:11 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2 Sep 2004 09:55:23 GMT, Martin Bienwald <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] schrieb:
>>>>>> ... for the occasional more singable "D. uber Alles".
>>>>>... which at least makes no reference to war and blood. That's something
>>>>>to say for a national anthem, however questionable its lyrics may be.
>>>>>Incidentally, only the third verse ("Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit")
>>>>>is used as the German national anthem nowadays, and while its lyrics may
>>>>>sound a little pathetic, I do agree with most of its content.
>>>>and in common with the French national anthem, it's a bloody good
>>>>tune.
>>>
>>> It should be; it was written by Haydn.
>>Written while on holiday on one of the Fresian islands when they were under
>>UK rule. So I have been led to believe.
>
> When were the Friesian Islands under UK rule and why?
>
> <googles> Helgoland? One of the North Friesian Islands
Helgoland, yes. So it seems.
1st July 1890 Germany and Britain sign the Helgoland-Zanzibar contract. In
which Germany gives up Zanzibar to Britain in return for Helgoland occupied
by Britain since 1807 (previously ruled by Denmark).
Anyway, Haydn only wrote the tune.
The text was written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben, and was a patriotic call
to all the German branches to unite, rather than to say that Germany was
better than everyone else (which is the incorrect, post-war common
interpretation).
--
Tim C.
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:35 pm
#174
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
>>Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
>>Damned Google, eh?
>>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>>wrote the lyric.
>
> Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
Stop it!
--
Tim C.
>>Damned Google, eh?
>>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>>wrote the lyric.
>
> Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
Stop it!
--
Tim C.
Sep 2nd 2004, 8:46 pm
#175
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Re: National Anthem Traditions?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:35:55 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
>>>Damned Google, eh?
>>>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>>>wrote the lyric.
>>
>> Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
>Stop it!
People don't like to talk about what those two got up to on holiday.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Ha, that's where I got the details I just posted ;-)
>>>Damned Google, eh?
>>>So, Haydn wrote the melody in 1797. It was only Hoffmann on Helgoland who
>>>wrote the lyric.
>>
>> Whilst on holiday with Bruckner? :-)
>Stop it!
People don't like to talk about what those two got up to on holiday.
