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A&V Mar 16th 2002 10:05 am

mastercard and visa in Italy
 
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Hi everybody,
<br>We intend to take master card and visa cards as cash and credit money to France
and Italy. The intention is to put cash on one card for cash withdrawals, and use the
other one for purchases on credit. <br>Are there any problems with that idea? <br>Are
there better ways to carry cash? <br>We are travelling from Australia. <br>Thanks
<br>Andrea</html

heleneH Mar 16th 2002 11:04 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
Be very cautious both countries Italy & France are packed jam with pickpockets and all kind of people waiting for your money.

Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in both countries and my passport +l my credit cards were stolen and I am French!

Carry as little cash as you can and traveller checks are best, never carry 2 credit cards at the same time.

Also I don't know if you plan on renting a car to travel in France but you have to know that the last popular way to get robbed is when you stop on the road (any road at any time). Coming from nowhere a car stop behind you a guy comes to you like if he wants to ask you something and in less than 5 minutes all your belongings are gone.

In both countries do not expect cops to do anything, they couldn't care less.

I don't know for Italy but in France Visa and Mastercard are OK you can't use Discover and Amex people don't take it unless you go in a very expensive hotel.

Hhh Mar 16th 2002 12:05 pm

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Be very cautious both countries Italy & France are packed jam with = pickpockets and
all kind of people waiting for your money.

Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in both countries and = my passport
+l my credit cards were stolen and I am French!

Carry as little cash as you can and traveller checks are best, never = carry 2 credit
cards at the same time.

Also I don't know if you plan on renting a car to travel in France but = you have to
know that the last popular way to get robbed is when you = stop on the road (any
road at any time). Coming from nowhere a car stop = behind you a guy comes to you
like if he wants to ask you something and = in less than 5 minutes all your
belongings are gone.

In both countries do not expect cops to do anything, they couldn't care = less.

I don't know for Italy but in France Visa and Mastercard are OK you = can't use
Discover and Amex people don't take it unless you go in a very = expensive hotel.

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card and visa cards as cash and credit money = to France and Italy. The intention
is to put cash on one card for cash = withdrawals, and use the other one for
purchases on credit.=20 Are there any problems with that idea?=20 Are there better
ways to carry cash?=20 We are travelling from Australia.=20 Thanks=20 Andrea=20

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Frank Matthews Mar 16th 2002 3:07 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
In general debit or ATM cards work better than putting cash in a credit card account.
Also the fees for cash advances (yes, they call it an advance even if you prepay) are
often higher. Check with your local financial institutions about fees. Availability
should be fine.

Frank Matthews

A&V wrote:

    > Hi everybody, We intend to take master card and visa cards as cash and credit
    > money to France and Italy. The intention is to put cash on one card for cash
    > withdrawals, and use the other one for purchases on credit. Are there any problems
    > with that idea? Are there better ways to carry cash? We are travelling from
    > Australia. Thanks Andrea

The Oik Mar 16th 2002 3:35 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
"heleneH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Be very cautious both countries Italy & France are packed jam with pickpockets and
    > all kind of people waiting for your money.
    >
    > Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in both countries and my passport
    > +l my credit cards were stolen and I am French!
    >
    > Carry as little cash as you can and traveller checks are best, never carry 2 credit
    > cards at the same time.
    >
    > Also I don't know if you plan on renting a car to travel in France but you have to
    > know that the last popular way to get robbed is when you stop on the road (any
    > road at any time). Coming from nowhere a car stop behind you a guy comes to you
    > like if he wants to ask you something and in less than 5 minutes all your
    > belongings are gone.
    >
    > In both countries do not expect cops to do anything, they couldn't care less.
    >
    > I don't know for Italy but in France Visa and Mastercard are OK you can't use
    > Discover and Amex people don't take it unless you go in a very expensive hotel.
    >
plus you should wear body armour at all times, and only venture outside with an armed
escort. Best to leave your passport at home, I'm sure French immigration will
understand this sensible safety measure.

Hhh Mar 16th 2002 4:05 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
I meant do not carry your passport with you while you are abroad, once it's stolen
your trip becomes very different.

I thought everybody will understand i didn't mean "come to france without a
passport".

I am afraid you are not aware at all of how bad security has become in France..... as
a french citizen i can tell you that your joke is everything but fun. In big cities
like marseille they now stop the subway at 9pm because police can't handle crimes.
that's just an example..

    > >
    > plus you should wear body armour at all times, and only venture outside
with
    > an armed escort. Best to leave your passport at home, I'm sure French immigration
    > will understand this sensible safety measure.

Siena Mar 16th 2002 6:35 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > HHH <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > I meant do not carry your passport with you while you are abroad, once it's
    > > stolen your trip becomes very different.
    > >
    > > I thought everybody will understand i didn't mean "come to france
without a
    > > passport".
    >
    > Can't a foreigner be arrested for walking around the streets of France without
    > carrying a passport?
    >
    > miguel

I don't know about France but they could be arrested in Italy for it. Required by
law, valid identification at all times.

Cristina

Devil Mar 16th 2002 7:05 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
heleneH wrote:
    >
    > Be very cautious both countries Italy & France are packed jam with pickpockets and
    > all kind of people waiting for your money.
    >
    > Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in both countries and my passport
    > +l my credit cards were stolen and I am French!
    >
    > Carry as little cash as you can and traveller checks are best, never carry 2 credit
    > cards at the same time.
    >
    > Also I don't know if you plan on renting a car to travel in France but you have to
    > know that the last popular way to get robbed is when you stop on the road (any
    > road at any time). Coming from nowhere a car stop behind you a guy comes to you
    > like if he wants to ask you something and in less than 5 minutes all your
    > belongings are gone.
    >
    > In both countries do not expect cops to do anything, they couldn't care less.
    >
    > I don't know for Italy but in France Visa and Mastercard are OK you can't use
    > Discover and Amex people don't take it unless you go in a very expensive hotel.

I guess you forgot to mention all these sex maniacs who raped you repeatedly?

    :)

You are quite right. Best advice is for people like you to stay home, I am sure.

Jani Patokallio Mar 16th 2002 7:35 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
HHH <[email protected]> wrote:
    : Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in both countries and my passport
    : +l my credit cards were stolen and I am French!

Doesn't French law mandate that everybody must carry identification at all times?

Anyway, I'd advise carrying your credit card(s) in a money belt and withdrawing cash
from ATMs. That way, if a robber gets your wallet, he may get a day or two's worth of
spending money but nothing more. (And it won't hurt to keep any bigger bills in the
belt as well...)

Cheers,
--
Jani Patokallio >O._, This day will not come again. [email protected] `..' Each minute
is worth a priceless gem. -Takuan

The Oik Mar 16th 2002 7:35 pm

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
"siena" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > HHH <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > I meant do not carry your passport with you while you are abroad, once it's
    > > > stolen your trip becomes very different.
    > > >
    > > > I thought everybody will understand i didn't mean "come to france
    > without a
    > > > passport".
    > >
    > > Can't a foreigner be arrested for walking around the streets of France without
    > > carrying a passport?
    > >
    > > miguel
    >
    >
    > I don't know about France but they could be arrested in Italy for it. Required by
    > law, valid identification at all times.
    >
    > Cristina
    >

I seem to remember a UK MP being arrested for this very thing, and then pointing out
that Italian law also required deposit of a passport at the hotel of temporary
residence - is this true? can't say I would be surprised...

heleneH Mar 17th 2002 1:42 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
Devil, I didn't say anything about my multiples rapes but now that you mention it, may i ask you how you know so well about? were you in France last year?

Devil Mar 17th 2002 6:35 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
heleneH wrote:
    >
    > Devil, I didn't say anything about my multiples rapes but now that you mention it,
    > may i ask you how you know so well about? were you in France last year?

Of course I was :).

Barbara Vaughan Mar 17th 2002 7:05 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
The Oik wrote:
    >
    > "siena" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > HHH <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > > I meant do not carry your passport with you while you are abroad, once it's
    > > > > stolen your trip becomes very different.
    > > > >
    > > > > I thought everybody will understand i didn't mean "come to france
    > > without a
    > > > > passport".
    > > >
    > > > Can't a foreigner be arrested for walking around the streets of France without
    > > > carrying a passport?
    > > >
    > > > miguel
    > >
    > >
    > > I don't know about France but they could be arrested in Italy for it. Required by
    > > law, valid identification at all times.
    > >
    > > Cristina
    > >
    >
    > I seem to remember a UK MP being arrested for this very thing, and then pointing
    > out that Italian law also required deposit of a passport at the hotel of temporary
    > residence - is this true? can't say I would be surprised...

Hotels are required to fill out a form with the names and passport (or Italian ID)
information. If the desk clerk is not very busy when you arrive, he will often do
this while you wait. More often, he asks you to leave the passport (or ID card) and
he gives it back to you later, usually the next time he sees you.

Once in Spain, a pension owner refused to give us back our passports until we had
checked out and paid. He said this was to ensure he got paid. This was one of the
disaster lodgings recommended by the Rough Guide.

Barbara

Decobabe Mar 17th 2002 7:05 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "siena" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > HHH <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > > I meant do not carry your passport with you while you are abroad,
once
    > > > > it's stolen your trip becomes very different.
    > > > >
    > > > > I thought everybody will understand i didn't mean "come to france
    > > without a
    > > > > passport".
    > > >
    > > > Can't a foreigner be arrested for walking around the streets of France without
    > > > carrying a passport?
    > > >
    > > > miguel
    > >
    > >
    > > I don't know about France but they could be arrested in Italy for it. Required by
    > > law, valid identification at all times.
    > >
    > > Cristina
    > >
    >
    > I seem to remember a UK MP being arrested for this very thing, and then pointing
    > out that Italian law also required deposit of a passport at the hotel of temporary
    > residence - is this true? can't say I would be surprised...
    >

It's wise to carry a photocopy or two of your passport info pages, show both to the
hotel desk and then leave the copy. They don't need to keep the passport, they just
need the info in it. They will tell you they need it, but they don't and just mean to
enter your info on a form required by the police at their convenience. Then keep your
passport as safely as you keep your bank card. Be sure to get your copy back, too,
because if something should happoen to your passport, that copy will make it much
easier to get a replacement at the nearest legation.

A&V Mar 17th 2002 9:05 am

Re: mastercard and visa in Italy
 
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> :o) <br>:o)
<br>:o) <br>Andrea
<p>The Oik wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>"heleneH" &lt;[email protected]> wrote
in message <br><a href="news:[email protected]">news:3c9366b4_-
[email protected]</a>... <br>> Be very cautious both countries Italy
&amp; France are packed jam with <br>> pickpockets and all kind of people waiting
for your money. <br>> <br>> Never carry your passport with you, i got robbed in
both countries and <br>> my passport +l my credit cards were stolen and I am
French! <br>> <br>> Carry as little cash as you can and traveller checks are best,
never <br>> carry 2 credit cards at the same time. <br>> <br>> Also I don't know
if you plan on renting a car to travel in France but <br>> you have to know that
the last popular way to get robbed is when you <br>> stop on the road (any road at
any time). Coming from nowhere a car stop <br>> behind you a guy comes to you like
if he wants to ask you something and <br>> in less than 5 minutes all your
belongings are gone. <br>> <br>> In both countries do not expect cops to do
anything, they couldn't <br>> care less. <br>> <br>> I don't know for Italy but in
France Visa and Mastercard are OK you <br>> can't use Discover and Amex people
don't take it unless you go in a very <br>> expensive hotel. <br>> <br>plus you
should wear body armour at all times, and only venture outside with <br>an armed
escort. Best to leave your passport at home, I'm sure French <br>immigration will
understand this sensible safety measure.</blockquote> </html


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