Emilia

[email protected] (Sam) wrote in
news:[email protected] om:

    > I was reading up on Mona Lisa on the net where I read several
    > suggesting that it is a fake as security make little attempt to stop
    > flash photos of it.some ppl even boasted they went inside the barrier
    > and took a photo with it.Elsewhere however I read that the fake Mona
    > rumor was spread by con "artists" who claimed to their clients that
    > they sold them the real Jaconda and the one inthe louvre is a
    > fake.What do you think from what you saw?I am going to the louvre next
    > week.Is there details of the painting which can be seen which support
    > either of these theories?
    >
    > thanks,
    > Sam


It's a total fake! The real one is probably in a basement hide away some
where. Skip the Louvre and go to the D'Orsay.

Jcoulter

Emilia <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in news:41150807$1_2
@news.tiscalinet.ch:



    >
    >
    > It's a total fake! The real one is probably in a basement hide away some
    > where. Skip the Louvre and go to the D'Orsay.
uhh the Orsay or The musee d'Orsay, but not "the the Orsay" ;-)
    >
    >
    >

nitram

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 15:07:22 -0500, jcoulter
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Emilia <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in news:41150807$1_2
    >@news.tiscalinet.ch:
    >>
    >>
    >> It's a total fake! The real one is probably in a basement hide away some
    >> where. Skip the Louvre and go to the D'Orsay.
    >uhh the Orsay or The musee d'Orsay, but not "the the Orsay" ;-)

"the of the Orsay"?

Mxsmanic

jcoulter writes:

    > uhh the Orsay or The musee d'Orsay, but not "the the Orsay" ;-)

What does "the the Orsay" mean?

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Mxsmanic

[email protected] writes:

    > "the of the Orsay"?

d'Orsay = of Orsay

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Jcoulter

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > jcoulter writes:
    >
    >> uhh the Orsay or The musee d'Orsay, but not "the the Orsay" ;-)
    >
    > What does "the the Orsay" mean?
    >

stripped of context Musee, d'Orsay by itself only means de Orsay the Orsay
or the more meaningless of Orsay. the point of course being that one should
say in English The Orsay or The Orsay Museum,

Luca Logi

John Bermont <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >
    > It's not _that_ valuable. It's famous, but it's not a
    > > tremendously good work of art.
    > >
    >
    > What would you consider a good work of art?

Msx is almost right. It is famous and it is a very good work of art, but
it is true that there is a lot of hype. I can think about a lot of works
(say, some Giotto series or Caravaggio paintings) that were much more
influential than La Gioconda, and have not as much hype.

--
Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/ar/archivarius
(musicologia pratica)

Sam

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > [email protected] writes:
    >
    > > "the of the Orsay"?
    >
    > d'Orsay = of Orsay

Speaking of d'Orsay does anyone know if Whistlers Mother is there

nitram

On 8 Aug 2004 00:47:21 -0700, [email protected] (Sam) wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    >> [email protected] writes:
    >>
    >> > "the of the Orsay"?
    >>
    >> d'Orsay = of Orsay
    >Speaking of d'Orsay does anyone know if Whistlers Mother is there

She's in the Tate gallery.

Mxsmanic

jcoulter writes:

    > stripped of context Musee, d'Orsay by itself only means de Orsay the Orsay
    > or the more meaningless of Orsay.

With or without context, d'Orsay means "of Orsay." There's no definite
article in there, much less two.

    > the point of course being that one should say in English
    > The Orsay or The Orsay Museum,

That would be a good choice, yes, although sometimes one says things
strangely in other languages for the sake of euphony or recognition.
It's routine to say the Pont Neuf bridge, for example, even though
"pont" already means "bridge."

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Congokid

In message <1gi4bmw.814i9416u080qN%[email protected]>, Luca Logi
<[email protected]> writes

    >"Mona" with a single "n" is a Venetian insult with a
    >possible sexual overtone.

I wonder what was going through the minds of the people who opened an
Italian restaurant in London and called it La Figa.

--
congokid
Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google
http://congokid.com

Magda

On 6 Aug 2004 08:08:03 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Sam) arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... I was reading up on Mona Lisa on the net where I read several
... suggesting that it is a fake as security make little attempt to stop
... flash photos of it.some ppl even boasted they went inside the barrier
... and took a photo with it.Elsewhere however I read that the fake Mona
... rumor was spread by con "artists" who claimed to their clients that
... they sold them the real Jaconda and the one inthe louvre is a
... fake.What do you think from what you saw?I am going to the louvre next
... week.Is there details of the painting which can be seen which support
... either of these theories?

Have you already seen one of pics taken by the tourists ? I bet it's a dot of light and
nothing else...

Emilia

jcoulter <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > Emilia <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in news:41150807$1_2
    > @news.tiscalinet.ch:
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >>
    >> It's a total fake! The real one is probably in a basement hide away
    >> some where. Skip the Louvre and go to the D'Orsay.
    > uhh the Orsay or The musee d'Orsay, but not "the the Orsay" ;-)

Give me a break. ;-)

Emilia

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > jcoulter writes:
    >
    >> stripped of context Musee, d'Orsay by itself only means de Orsay the
    >> Orsay or the more meaningless of Orsay.
    >
    > With or without context, d'Orsay means "of Orsay." There's no
    > definite article in there, much less two.
    >
    >> the point of course being that one should say in English
    >> The Orsay or The Orsay Museum,
    >
    > That would be a good choice, yes, although sometimes one says things
    > strangely in other languages for the sake of euphony or recognition.
    > It's routine to say the Pont Neuf bridge, for example, even though
    > "pont" already means "bridge."


Exactly. To say "visit the Orsay" is not exactly beautiful in English.

Anyway, the point of my post was to assure the OP that the Mona Lisa in the
Louvre is in fact a fake. Can we never stick to the topic?

Jcoulter

Emilia <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:



    >
    > Exactly. To say "visit the Orsay" is not exactly beautiful in English.
    >
    > Anyway, the point of my post was to assure the OP that the Mona Lisa
    > in the Louvre is in fact a fake. Can we never stick to the topic?
    >

Ok we can skip the intelligent discussion of linguistic nuance and jump
right into the conspiracy of the week topic. Silly me!

You offer what as validation for your claim of fakery? Untill I see
credible proof to the contrary, I am going to continue to believe that the
Louvre as one of the world's premier art exhibitions is not conning us.