London neighbourhoods
Jun 18th 2003, 4:33 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , Karen says...
>On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:31:02 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>>Hatunen wrote:
>>> For various values of culturally acceptable. I don't think most Americans
>>> consider it culturally acceptable or a lot more holstered guns would be
>>> seen.
>>I can't say that I've ever seen that anywhere in the USA. I would definitely
>>not return to any place in which I did see it.
>>miguel
>Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, but I've never actually seen a gun
>at ALL except when carried by policemen. Not in real life, anyway.
>I don't know anyone who owns a gun, either.
>Karen
When I was a kid we had gun battles in the city virtually every single day. We
did not have police officers in many parts of the Belfast just soldiers. When
bombs exploded the rotting birds would fall from the tops of buildings. It was
good training for a holiday in Beirut.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:31:02 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>>Hatunen wrote:
>>> For various values of culturally acceptable. I don't think most Americans
>>> consider it culturally acceptable or a lot more holstered guns would be
>>> seen.
>>I can't say that I've ever seen that anywhere in the USA. I would definitely
>>not return to any place in which I did see it.
>>miguel
>Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, but I've never actually seen a gun
>at ALL except when carried by policemen. Not in real life, anyway.
>I don't know anyone who owns a gun, either.
>Karen
When I was a kid we had gun battles in the city virtually every single day. We
did not have police officers in many parts of the Belfast just soldiers. When
bombs exploded the rotting birds would fall from the tops of buildings. It was
good training for a holiday in Beirut.
Jun 18th 2003, 4:40 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , The says...
>Following up to John
>>I saw "hobby guns" being sold in London. I have no idea what they are, but
>>they looked like pistols and I was surprised.
>hand guns were totally banned a few years ago. Air pistols that fire a
>little dart are legal as far as I know. Reproduction non working guns
>are legal and have resulted in people being shot by armed police unit
>for obvious reasons.
In Great Britain the ban was total as far as I am aware, it was not quite a UK
wide ban because of Northern Ireland.
>Following up to John
>>I saw "hobby guns" being sold in London. I have no idea what they are, but
>>they looked like pistols and I was surprised.
>hand guns were totally banned a few years ago. Air pistols that fire a
>little dart are legal as far as I know. Reproduction non working guns
>are legal and have resulted in people being shot by armed police unit
>for obvious reasons.
In Great Britain the ban was total as far as I am aware, it was not quite a UK
wide ban because of Northern Ireland.
Jun 19th 2003, 1:05 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
Last year, the London
newspaper carried a headline about a woman being knifed to death
some1or200miles north of London.
It was news, as it was the only murder within 1 or 200 miles of London
that week.
I live in Wash DC, capitol of the free world, We have a murder within
25 miles of my house every day, and none of them make the paper.
newspaper carried a headline about a woman being knifed to death
some1or200miles north of London.
It was news, as it was the only murder within 1 or 200 miles of London
that week.
I live in Wash DC, capitol of the free world, We have a murder within
25 miles of my house every day, and none of them make the paper.
Jun 22nd 2003, 10:25 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
Trivia:
I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from Marylebone.
I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from Marylebone.
Jun 22nd 2003, 11:38 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , Gregorso
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>Trivia:
>I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from Marylebone.
Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
And, believe it or not, a fictional character.
--
Marie Lewis
writes
>Trivia:
>I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from Marylebone.
Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
And, believe it or not, a fictional character.
--
Marie Lewis
Jun 23rd 2003, 3:38 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , [email protected]
(Marie Lewis) wrote:
> In article , Gregorso
> writes
> >Trivia:
> >I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from
> Marylebone.
>
> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
fame?
An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
Sherlock Holmes.
(Marie Lewis) wrote:
> In article , Gregorso
> writes
> >Trivia:
> >I'm told that Eliza Doolittle, of "My Fair Lady" fame, was from
> Marylebone.
>
> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
fame?
An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
Sherlock Holmes.
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:34 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
Following up to [email protected]
>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>fame?
>An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
>Sherlock Holmes.
You mean these people are not real!
I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
Cross, is there a connection?
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"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, landscape photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>fame?
>An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
>Sherlock Holmes.
You mean these people are not real!
I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
Cross, is there a connection?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, landscape photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
Jun 23rd 2003, 9:12 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
The Reid wrote in message
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> Following up to [email protected]
> >> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
> >
> >Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
> >fame?
> >
> >An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
> >Sherlock Holmes.
> You mean these people are not real!
> I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
> Cross, is there a connection?
> --
Yeh. The Tube.
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to [email protected]
> >> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
> >
> >Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
> >fame?
> >
> >An even more famous and equally fictional Marylebonian, of course, was
> >Sherlock Holmes.
> You mean these people are not real!
> I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
> Cross, is there a connection?
> --
Yeh. The Tube.
Surreyman
Jun 23rd 2003, 9:20 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , The Reid
writes
>Following up to [email protected]
>>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>>fame?
Not to the properly educated.
--
Marie Lewis
writes
>Following up to [email protected]
>>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>>fame?
Not to the properly educated.
--
Marie Lewis
Jun 23rd 2003, 11:48 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
"The Reid" wrote
| I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
| Cross, is there a connection?
It's where Holmes used to go whoring :-)
Owain
| I sometimes wonder why there is a "Sherlock Holmes" pub near Charing
| Cross, is there a connection?
It's where Holmes used to go whoring :-)
Owain
Jun 24th 2003, 7:07 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , [email protected]
(Marie Lewis) wrote:
> In article , The Reid
> writes
> >Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
> >>
> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
> Lady"
> >>fame?
>
> Not to the properly educated.
Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
musical than through the Shaw.
Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
play.
(Marie Lewis) wrote:
> In article , The Reid
> writes
> >Following up to [email protected]
> >
> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
> >>
> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
> Lady"
> >>fame?
>
> Not to the properly educated.
Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
musical than through the Shaw.
Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
play.
Jun 24th 2003, 9:37 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
In article , [email protected]
writes
>In article , [email protected]
>(Marie Lewis) wrote:
>> In article , The Reid
>> writes
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>> >>
>> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
>> Lady"
>> >>fame?
>> Not to the properly educated.
>Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
>great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
>fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
>musical than through the Shaw.
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
But Eliza Doolittle was in the play, not a Greek legend.
--
Marie Lewis
writes
>In article , [email protected]
>(Marie Lewis) wrote:
>> In article , The Reid
>> writes
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>> >>
>> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
>> Lady"
>> >>fame?
>> Not to the properly educated.
>Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
>great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
>fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
>musical than through the Shaw.
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
But Eliza Doolittle was in the play, not a Greek legend.
--
Marie Lewis
Jun 24th 2003, 9:57 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:07:03 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
wrote:
>In article , [email protected]
>(Marie Lewis) wrote:
>> In article , The Reid
>> writes
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>> >>
>> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
>> Lady"
>> >>fame?
>>
>> Not to the properly educated.
>Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
>great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
>fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
>musical than through the Shaw.
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
'strewth! You'll be telling us next that Galatea wasn't the leader
of the femdroids in Doctor Who
)
Derek
wrote:
>In article , [email protected]
>(Marie Lewis) wrote:
>> In article , The Reid
>> writes
>> >Following up to [email protected]
>> >
>> >>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>> >>
>> >>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
>> Lady"
>> >>fame?
>>
>> Not to the properly educated.
>Well, I'm sure the name is more famous as "great-grandma" to people whose
>great-grandmother was called Eliza Doolittle. That wouldn't change the
>fact that (probably) more people are familiar with the name through the
>musical than through the Shaw.
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
'strewth! You'll be telling us next that Galatea wasn't the leader
of the femdroids in Doctor Who
)Derek
Jun 24th 2003, 11:19 am
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Re: London neighbourhoods
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:20:10 +0100, Marie Lewis
wrote:
>In article , The Reid
> writes
>>Following up to [email protected]
>>>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>>>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>>>fame?
>Not to the properly educated.
Fame means being of great renown or having a public reputation. One
measure of fame is the number of people aware of the person (or in
this case fictitional character). The educational standards of those
aware is irrelevant.
Eliza Dolittle was the central character in the movie My Fair Lady so
the fame of Eliza Dolittle is based on the movie as much as on Shaw's
original play. Many people who saw the movie will be aware of
both. If we exclude those people, we end up examining those who
only know Shaw's play (including all of those who saw it before the
movie was even produced) and those who only know the movie.
Movies are much more accessible than plays and, although I have no
ideas of the audiences for either, I suspect that this particular
movie will have been seen by many more people than saw the play.
I have no problem at all in accepting the comment about Eliza -
"Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
Lady" fame?"
Derek
wrote:
>In article , The Reid
> writes
>>Following up to [email protected]
>>>> Of "Pygmalion" fame, actually.
>>>Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair Lady"
>>>fame?
>Not to the properly educated.
Fame means being of great renown or having a public reputation. One
measure of fame is the number of people aware of the person (or in
this case fictitional character). The educational standards of those
aware is irrelevant.
Eliza Dolittle was the central character in the movie My Fair Lady so
the fame of Eliza Dolittle is based on the movie as much as on Shaw's
original play. Many people who saw the movie will be aware of
both. If we exclude those people, we end up examining those who
only know Shaw's play (including all of those who saw it before the
movie was even produced) and those who only know the movie.
Movies are much more accessible than plays and, although I have no
ideas of the audiences for either, I suspect that this particular
movie will have been seen by many more people than saw the play.
I have no problem at all in accepting the comment about Eliza -
"Surely of at least equal, probably greater albeit later, "My Fair
Lady" fame?"
Derek
Jun 24th 2003, 8:08 pm
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Re: London neighbourhoods
Following up to [email protected]
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
The whole thing is Greek to me. Who is this Shaw johnny come lately?
It seems I obviously didn't have a "proper" classical education like
some.:-)
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, landscape photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
>Anyway, to those *very* properly educated Pygmalion wouldn't mean the
>play.
The whole thing is Greek to me. Who is this Shaw johnny come lately?
It seems I obviously didn't have a "proper" classical education like
some.:-)
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, landscape photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
