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Nov 18th 2003, 3:40 pm
#1
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London
Hi All,
Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
dress pants?
Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
interesting neighborhoods.
Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
switches and/or signaling gear?
Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
welcome.
Thanks for your kind help.
-Vik
[email protected]
Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
dress pants?
Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
interesting neighborhoods.
Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
switches and/or signaling gear?
Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
welcome.
Thanks for your kind help.
-Vik
[email protected]
Nov 18th 2003, 4:18 pm
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Re: London
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Velociraptor) wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
I'd do Cambridge rather than Oxford - it's smaller, a little less busy,
IMHO more beautiful in winter. King's College Chapel is arguably one of
the highlight buildings of Europe. But - you won't regret Oxford either.
In Bath for a day, you should see the crescent, the baths and the abbey,
probably in that order of priority.
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
You'll be fine.
> interesting
> bookstores
For bookstores in London, head to Charing Cross Road and Cecil Court (a
very small street on the east side of Charing X Rd, near Leicester Square
station). Ignore Foyles: it may be one of the biggest bookstores in the
world, but it's also one of the worst.
>? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
Going into vague-recollection mode here, I think BT (British Telecom - the
old state telco) has a company museum but it's invitation-only. In any
case, you'll find plenty of interest at the Science Museum:
http://www.nmsi.ac.uk
(Velociraptor) wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
I'd do Cambridge rather than Oxford - it's smaller, a little less busy,
IMHO more beautiful in winter. King's College Chapel is arguably one of
the highlight buildings of Europe. But - you won't regret Oxford either.
In Bath for a day, you should see the crescent, the baths and the abbey,
probably in that order of priority.
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
You'll be fine.
> interesting
> bookstores
For bookstores in London, head to Charing Cross Road and Cecil Court (a
very small street on the east side of Charing X Rd, near Leicester Square
station). Ignore Foyles: it may be one of the biggest bookstores in the
world, but it's also one of the worst.
>? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
Going into vague-recollection mode here, I think BT (British Telecom - the
old state telco) has a company museum but it's invitation-only. In any
case, you'll find plenty of interest at the Science Museum:
http://www.nmsi.ac.uk
Nov 18th 2003, 6:32 pm
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Re: London
Vik,
Check out www.walks.com
For reviews of places to eat, even chippies, take a look at
www.congokid.com. Don't forget to order mushy peas to go with the fish and
chips.
On a clear day, take a ride on the London Eye!
- Mark
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:40:18 GMT, Velociraptor <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hi All,
>Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
>Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
>Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
>Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
>can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
>Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
>dress pants?
>Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
>Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
>interesting neighborhoods.
>Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
>bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
>technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
>switches and/or signaling gear?
>Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
>welcome.
>Thanks for your kind help.
>-Vik
>[email protected]
Check out www.walks.com
For reviews of places to eat, even chippies, take a look at
www.congokid.com. Don't forget to order mushy peas to go with the fish and
chips.
On a clear day, take a ride on the London Eye!
- Mark
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:40:18 GMT, Velociraptor <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hi All,
>Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
>Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
>Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
>Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
>can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
>Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
>dress pants?
>Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
>Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
>interesting neighborhoods.
>Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
>bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
>technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
>switches and/or signaling gear?
>Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
>welcome.
>Thanks for your kind help.
>-Vik
>[email protected]
Nov 18th 2003, 7:57 pm
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Re: London
Velociraptor wrote:
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath.
> Good Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Oxford: There is a cheap bus service! http://www.megabus.com/
IMO Oxford is nothing special! I'd prefer Cambridge. Much smaller and much
nicer. Oxford is just another British town. (IMO!)
Bath is great. Do visit the Roman Baths.
If you are going by car there is a lot around Bath. Cotswolds, Wells,
Glastonbury, Avebury etc. (But that's more than a day-trip!)
lg Gernot
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath.
> Good Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Oxford: There is a cheap bus service! http://www.megabus.com/
IMO Oxford is nothing special! I'd prefer Cambridge. Much smaller and much
nicer. Oxford is just another British town. (IMO!)
Bath is great. Do visit the Roman Baths.
If you are going by car there is a lot around Bath. Cotswolds, Wells,
Glastonbury, Avebury etc. (But that's more than a day-trip!)
lg Gernot
Nov 18th 2003, 9:17 pm
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Re: London
Following up to Velociraptor
>Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
>Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
As you are rail buff, consider York, see below.
>Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
>Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
>can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
>Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
>dress pants?
By "dress" you don't mean "dress" as in dinner jacket etc?
I always go to the English National Opera where there is no dress
code but a shiny old business suit looks naff. A bit of
flamboyance goes down well.
I *thought* Covent Garden was quite snooty?
>Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
>Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
>interesting neighborhoods.
Theres a transport museum in Covent Garden, Google something like
London Transport Museum. York has a brilliant railway museum, but
you would want to stay overnight. Google national railway museum.
>Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
>bookstores,
Charing Cross Road down to St Martins in the Fields for books
>a garden railway?
doubt it in central london
>Is there a museum of
>technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
>switches and/or signaling gear?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, Thames path, London, landscapes "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain,cuisines and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
>Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
As you are rail buff, consider York, see below.
>Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
>Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
>can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
>Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
>dress pants?
By "dress" you don't mean "dress" as in dinner jacket etc?
I always go to the English National Opera where there is no dress
code but a shiny old business suit looks naff. A bit of
flamboyance goes down well.
I *thought* Covent Garden was quite snooty?
>Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
>Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
>interesting neighborhoods.
Theres a transport museum in Covent Garden, Google something like
London Transport Museum. York has a brilliant railway museum, but
you would want to stay overnight. Google national railway museum.
>Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
>bookstores,
Charing Cross Road down to St Martins in the Fields for books
>a garden railway?
doubt it in central london
>Is there a museum of
>technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
>switches and/or signaling gear?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, Thames path, London, landscapes "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain,cuisines and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Nov 18th 2003, 9:31 pm
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Re: London
"Velociraptor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Bath is an excellent choice, Oxford is OK but as a Cambridge man
I'd suggest you visit us instead. Oxford is an Industrial city with a
university, Cambridge is a university with an attractive East Anglian town
attached
If you do go to Cambridge hop on the shuttle bus from
the railway station into the town centre.
If you are interested in nautical matters another alternative is Portsmouth
where withing easy walking distance of the harbor station you could visit
HMS Victory, the Mary Rose, the RN museum and HMS Warrior
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
> Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
> Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
> interesting neighborhoods.
The London Transport museum in Covent Garden is worth a visit.
Not only do they have a good selection of early railway stuff but
the surrounding area has lots of good pubs eateries and street
theatre. I'd suggest a browse before going to the Opera.
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
There's a telecomms gallery in the science museum along with a lot
of good stuff on early computers and steam power.
Keith
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Bath is an excellent choice, Oxford is OK but as a Cambridge man
I'd suggest you visit us instead. Oxford is an Industrial city with a
university, Cambridge is a university with an attractive East Anglian town
attached
If you do go to Cambridge hop on the shuttle bus from
the railway station into the town centre.
If you are interested in nautical matters another alternative is Portsmouth
where withing easy walking distance of the harbor station you could visit
HMS Victory, the Mary Rose, the RN museum and HMS Warrior
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
> Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
> Interests include reading, railways (real and model) and meandering thru
> interesting neighborhoods.
The London Transport museum in Covent Garden is worth a visit.
Not only do they have a good selection of early railway stuff but
the surrounding area has lots of good pubs eateries and street
theatre. I'd suggest a browse before going to the Opera.
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
There's a telecomms gallery in the science museum along with a lot
of good stuff on early computers and steam power.
Keith
Nov 18th 2003, 10:14 pm
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Re: London
"Velociraptor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
I think you would get more from the experiance by dressing the part, why not
hire something when you arrive, and make a proper English evening of it,
maybe splash out on Dinner at the Ritz or something ??
> Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
> Interests include reading, railways (real and model)
The christams shops have model railway displays small or medium - try
Harrods or Hamlys.
> and meandering thru
> interesting neighborhoods.
Try Southall - little India.
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
> Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
> welcome.
> Thanks for your kind help.
> -Vik
> [email protected]
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
I think you would get more from the experiance by dressing the part, why not
hire something when you arrive, and make a proper English evening of it,
maybe splash out on Dinner at the Ritz or something ??
> Apart from going to the Portobello Market, have no other real plans.
> Interests include reading, railways (real and model)
The christams shops have model railway displays small or medium - try
Harrods or Hamlys.
> and meandering thru
> interesting neighborhoods.
Try Southall - little India.
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
> Any and all suggestions from the experienced London hands would be
> welcome.
> Thanks for your kind help.
> -Vik
> [email protected]
Nov 18th 2003, 10:29 pm
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Re: London
Velociraptor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Given your interest in railways, you might want to think about York too.
Excellent railways museum there, and the journey is under two hours from
London, by rail. Also, the UK has the highest concentration of heritage
railways in the world- indeed they have more _miles_ of heritage
railways still running than the rest of the world combined! You might
want to look into some of them too- most run mainly during the summer
months, but some are year round and would operate when you are there. If
you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
What State Opera? Do you mean the Met, or NYC Opera. I didn't realise
there was a State Opera. Anyway, CG _is_ a bit posher than, say, ENO-
but there is no dress code for regular events, and I think you ought to
wear what you feel like. That's what I've done, and I felt fine.
David
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David Horne- website under re-construction
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> Hi All,
>
> Will be visiting London during the Thanksgiving break, for a week.
>
> Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath. Good
> Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
Given your interest in railways, you might want to think about York too.
Excellent railways museum there, and the journey is under two hours from
London, by rail. Also, the UK has the highest concentration of heritage
railways in the world- indeed they have more _miles_ of heritage
railways still running than the rest of the world combined! You might
want to look into some of them too- most run mainly during the summer
months, but some are year round and would operate when you are there. If
you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
> Also plan on seeing an opera at the Royal Opera House in Convent Garden.
> Are they very strict/particular about the dress code? Here in NYC, I
> can manage the State Opera in a dress shirt, dress shoes and Levi's.
> Could I do the same in London, or would I need to take along a pair of
> dress pants?
What State Opera? Do you mean the Met, or NYC Opera. I didn't realise
there was a State Opera. Anyway, CG _is_ a bit posher than, say, ENO-
but there is no dress code for regular events, and I think you ought to
wear what you feel like. That's what I've done, and I felt fine.
David
--
David Horne- website under re-construction
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Nov 19th 2003, 12:00 am
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Re: London
Following up to David Horne
>You might
>want to look into some of them too- most run mainly during the summer
>months, but some are year round and would operate when you are there.
If you are a steam buff, note they will likely operate diesel at
off peak times.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, Thames path, London, landscapes "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain,cuisines and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>You might
>want to look into some of them too- most run mainly during the summer
>months, but some are year round and would operate when you are there.
If you are a steam buff, note they will likely operate diesel at
off peak times.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale, Thames path, London, landscapes "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain,cuisines and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Nov 19th 2003, 1:41 am
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Re: London
In article <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> If
> you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> If
> you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
Nov 19th 2003, 2:36 am
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Re: London
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> > If
> > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
>
> Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
moment. I think the structure of Paddington is more impressive though.
David
--
David Horne- website under re-construction
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> In article <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> > If
> > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest, etc.
>
> Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
moment. I think the structure of Paddington is more impressive though.
David
--
David Horne- website under re-construction
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Nov 19th 2003, 5:59 am
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Re: London
In article <1g4ognh.1vxlt8yv7q8aoN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk>,
[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >
> > > If
> > > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest,
> > > etc.
> >
> > Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
>
> From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
> moment.
I can't remember when it wasn't!
[email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >
> > > If
> > > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest,
> > > etc.
> >
> > Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
>
> From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
> moment.
I can't remember when it wasn't!
Nov 19th 2003, 6:03 am
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Re: London
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <1g4ognh.1vxlt8yv7q8aoN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk>,
> [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> > > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> > >
> > > > If
> > > > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > > > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > > > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest,
> > > > etc.
> > >
> > > Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
> >
> > From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
> > moment.
>
> I can't remember when it wasn't!
It's particularly bad at the moment because of the Channel Tunnel Rail
Link work.
David
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> In article <1g4ognh.1vxlt8yv7q8aoN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.co.uk>,
> [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <1g4o4yl.dw0tlueydihlN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
> > > [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> > >
> > > > If
> > > > you're interested in stations, there are obviously a lot of them in
> > > > London, and many have interesting architectural features- Brunel's
> > > > Paddington Station is my favourite- Waterloo is the UK's biggest,
> > > > etc.
> > >
> > > Difficult to beat St. Pancras IMHO!
> >
> > From the outside, it's impressive- the inside is an utter tip at the
> > moment.
>
> I can't remember when it wasn't!
It's particularly bad at the moment because of the Channel Tunnel Rail
Link work.
David
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Nov 19th 2003, 7:30 am
#14
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Re: London
In article <[email protected]>, Velociraptor
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
I won't add to the great suggestions by others, but I do have a place
that I loved to get fish and chips from when I lived in central London
earlier this year. It's a pub called the Euston Flyers, very close to
King's Cross, right on Euston Road (I believe?). Okay, so it's not a
chippie, but I've tried almost all of the chippies around central
London, and found none of it quite as good as the fish & chips at this
pub. (I never go there for the pub itself though) I am not exactly an
expert, but I've had some good ones outside of London before, so I
think I do know the good from the bad. The most amazing ones I've had
were at this very, very small coastal village outside of Newcastle. It
was just amazingly fresh and tasty. Ah, the good old days!
Have a great trip. Hell, I wished I was back there!!
Vic
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
> bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
> technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
> switches and/or signaling gear?
I won't add to the great suggestions by others, but I do have a place
that I loved to get fish and chips from when I lived in central London
earlier this year. It's a pub called the Euston Flyers, very close to
King's Cross, right on Euston Road (I believe?). Okay, so it's not a
chippie, but I've tried almost all of the chippies around central
London, and found none of it quite as good as the fish & chips at this
pub. (I never go there for the pub itself though) I am not exactly an
expert, but I've had some good ones outside of London before, so I
think I do know the good from the bad. The most amazing ones I've had
were at this very, very small coastal village outside of Newcastle. It
was just amazingly fresh and tasty. Ah, the good old days!
Have a great trip. Hell, I wished I was back there!!
Vic
Nov 19th 2003, 9:40 pm
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: London
"Velociraptor" wrote
| Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
| bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
| technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
| switches and/or signaling gear?
I'll try this one :-)
Sadly the BT Museum at Blackfriars closed in 1997. The stock has been
transferred to "partner" museums across the country.
There is (was the last two times I went) a fairly good exhibition within the
Science Museum. However a telecommunications gallery isn't currently listed
at www.sciencemuseum.org.uk Admission to the Science Museum is free.
There are lots of nice telephones in the Cabinet War Rooms, Whitehall,
including the "Beauty Chorus" of coloured telephones in the Map Room.
The UK Telephone Heritage Group is at www.thg.org.uk About the BT Museum
closure they say:
www.museumoflondon.org.uk "At the Museum of London, the new World City
Galleries feature Connected Earth artefacts; many others are in store
awaiting development of a new gallery exploring the role of communication in
the shaping of London. At Milton Keynes Museum, BT has made an initial
contribution towards the costs of a new gallery using historic telephones
and working equipment to explore the development of engineering and
switching technologies."
For telephone page see
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOL...subtheme.asp?t
id=25
Admission to the Museum is free but the 1920s exhibition is GBP5, valid for
repeated visits and also for the Docklands Museum. Museum of London, London
Wall EC2 (St Pauls / Barbican tubes)
For other museum links see THG Connected Earth:
http://www.thg.org.uk/ce/index.htm
The Milton Keynes museum might be of interest
http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/ttm/
And nearby is Bletchley Park, home of the wartime Enigma code-breakers
http://www.thg.org.uk/stationx/index.htm
Computer Museum at Bletchley Park
http://www.retrobeep.com/
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/
Check websites for opening hours especially out of season. "Tickets can be
purchased in advance online at a discounted rate through our secure Enigma
Shop." There are a number of exhibits within the Park including
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/tour...§ioncode=4
The Bletchley Park estate is 200 yards from Bletchley railway station
(trains from London Euston) and is very close to Milton Keynes in
Buckinghamshire.
| Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath.
| Good Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
National Railway Museum, York? Could be done as a day trip if you set out
early and come back after dinner (about 2 hours on the train)
There are heritage/steam railway links at
http://www.watercressline.co.uk/othersit.htm
or you might try news:uk.railway
Owain
| Any suggestions for good walks, a nice fish and chips place, interesting
| bookstores, a garden railway? Is there a museum of
| technology/telecommunications where one could view/examine old telephone
| switches and/or signaling gear?
I'll try this one :-)
Sadly the BT Museum at Blackfriars closed in 1997. The stock has been
transferred to "partner" museums across the country.
There is (was the last two times I went) a fairly good exhibition within the
Science Museum. However a telecommunications gallery isn't currently listed
at www.sciencemuseum.org.uk Admission to the Science Museum is free.
There are lots of nice telephones in the Cabinet War Rooms, Whitehall,
including the "Beauty Chorus" of coloured telephones in the Map Room.
The UK Telephone Heritage Group is at www.thg.org.uk About the BT Museum
closure they say:
www.museumoflondon.org.uk "At the Museum of London, the new World City
Galleries feature Connected Earth artefacts; many others are in store
awaiting development of a new gallery exploring the role of communication in
the shaping of London. At Milton Keynes Museum, BT has made an initial
contribution towards the costs of a new gallery using historic telephones
and working equipment to explore the development of engineering and
switching technologies."
For telephone page see
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOL...subtheme.asp?t
id=25
Admission to the Museum is free but the 1920s exhibition is GBP5, valid for
repeated visits and also for the Docklands Museum. Museum of London, London
Wall EC2 (St Pauls / Barbican tubes)
For other museum links see THG Connected Earth:
http://www.thg.org.uk/ce/index.htm
The Milton Keynes museum might be of interest
http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/ttm/
And nearby is Bletchley Park, home of the wartime Enigma code-breakers
http://www.thg.org.uk/stationx/index.htm
Computer Museum at Bletchley Park
http://www.retrobeep.com/
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/
Check websites for opening hours especially out of season. "Tickets can be
purchased in advance online at a discounted rate through our secure Enigma
Shop." There are a number of exhibits within the Park including
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/tour...§ioncode=4
The Bletchley Park estate is 200 yards from Bletchley railway station
(trains from London Euston) and is very close to Milton Keynes in
Buckinghamshire.
| Plan on taking two day trips, one to Oxford and the other to Bath.
| Good Choices? Any alternate suggestions? Or additions?
National Railway Museum, York? Could be done as a day trip if you set out
early and come back after dinner (about 2 hours on the train)
There are heritage/steam railway links at
http://www.watercressline.co.uk/othersit.htm
or you might try news:uk.railway
Owain
